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AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:01 AM
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I know that I am new to the board, and this is my first post in GD:P, but
I would like to use my first post to urge Obama supporters to be good winners, and not gloat. Even if the talking heads won't admit it, and even if the HRC campaign goes through the motions through the remainder of the states left to vote... Many of the Hillary supporters realize that after last night, it is over. There are alot of Hillary supporters that are going to be taking an honest 2nd look at Obama and his supporters. Please don't waste this golden opportunity by rubbing peoples faces in what happened last night.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:05 AM
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1. This Obama supporter won't be gloating. I was going to but after
the Rev. Wright deal I realize it is much better that Hillary hit him with it in the Primary than late in the GE. Obama is battle hardened now and ready to kick some GE butt.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:07 AM
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2. It's not over until the Super Delegates sing.
I'm sick of the whole race. No anti-war or globalist candidate. Was that planned or what?
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:11 AM
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3. A most excellent post, my friend!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:11 AM by caseycoon
Welcome to DU! :hi:

As an Obama supporter I agree 100% with what you are saying.
I have been through losing Kucinich. Then I lost Edwards & I know how much it hurts.
PLEASE Obama folks, be kind. Help us to come together as soon as we are able.
I have to ask you... What would OBAMA do. The man is a class act & I think he would be disgusted by the unkind gloating.

Again, excellent post AZSlacker! :toast:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:16 AM
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4. Yup It's time to get over this and move on to the general election.
Hillary put up a tenacious fight. If only Kerry or Gore had been so tenacious. That quality would serve the party well if she were to be the eventual VP nominee.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:16 AM
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5. Thanks for this.
I'm also hoping that things settle down from here on out. Barack being the better choice for president (in my opinion) doesn't negate the fact that we would have been lucky to have Hillary as our president. We would have been lucky to have Joe Biden or John Edwards or Chris Dodd. There were so many good choices this time around.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:17 AM
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6. Well said!
and welcome:)
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:17 AM
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7. I won't gloat. But I will tell the truth ...it is over...for Hillary..
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:20 AM
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8. No gloating - the feeling is one of relief
We really must get our act together as a party as soon as possible to face McCain in the general election.

Hopefully after a few days Hillary will concede, after she does whatever she must to shore up campaign finances and make whatever deals have to be made to bow out gracefully. If she doesn't there will be war in here again.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:22 AM
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9. Welcome
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:23 AM
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10. If you find someone gloating, let me know.
I'll personally kick them in the ass. Anyone who comes away from this without feeling like his or her heart has been forced through a strainer wasn't paying attention.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:23 AM
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11. I think it's going to be hard for some people
But, the majority of Obama supporters are reasonable people who just support one candidate over the other and are not rabid about that support. I hope the Democratic Party and DU can come together and throw their full support behind Obama.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:25 AM
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12. If you are new to this board you have no idea what the history
here has been.
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AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:40 AM
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18. Thanks for the input
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:41 AM by AZSlacker
Although I only started posting last month, I have been lurking since late '07. I realize that still makes me a newb. That said, I have seen plenty of divisiveness on both sides. From the almost daily TS parties, to the mirror threads, GDP has been quite the war zone since I have been following it. I'm not trying to be yet another low post count, non-donating person coming around telling everyone how it should be, and if you interpreted my post as such, I apologize for not communicating better. And I know that the majority of Obama supporters here (I'm one too) don't need to even need to hear this.. and the ones that do will probably ignore it anyways. I think I was just trying to point out that the next couple of days presents a great opprotunity to bring some Hillary supporters into our camp, and it would be a shame to squander it.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:42 AM
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19. The TS parties have been almost all over former clinton supporters
and there is a reason for that and the reason has nothing to do with moderator bias.
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AZSlacker Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:49 AM
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21. I understand that
And although I don't post in them, I am happy to see that they will no longer be with us. Although I can't see what ignored said, I am sure the TS are very well deserved.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:26 AM
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13. I won't gloat, over the past few days
when Barack looked tired, Hillary looked fresh as a daisy, I really don't know how she does it.

In a way I feel sad for her now that it is obviously over. It will take a little while to get over some of the gutter campaign ugliness, but I can move beyond.

Either one of the DEMS would have been better than McInsanity.

AND LOOK HOW MANY NEW VOTERS WE HAVE!!!?!?!?! AMAZING.

Welcome to DU, nice post.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:30 AM
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14. great post - and welcome
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:30 AM
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15. i sure would like to see hillary do some work reconciling florida and michigan.
bothers me so that she and her people laid it all on obama, he not having a part in the decisions so seem absurd to me. now when we do go after repugs we will have that really negative ill feeling.

as the demand is made of obama people, what expectation can we have on hillary and her supporters that have caused real damage in order to win when they knew long ago it wasn't happening.

this is not a matter of gloating or anything else. i am not that invested. but it is a serious consideration i have and would like for some people on hillary's side to recognize what they have done and the damage it has probably caused, in all likelihood.
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:32 AM
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16. well hey- no gloating here!
I feel sorry for Hillary, actually. This was supposed to be her presidency- but things happened. You're absolutely right, though. Now is the time for all true Democrats to band together to take back our country in 2009. I have the Bill Press show on right now, and they're talking about how many Republicans do not like their candidate. Perhaps they'll cross over for Obama.

Welcome to DU, btw!
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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:35 AM
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17. Why should anybody gloat ?
In a much ballyhooed election, Obama polled 13% of the potential North Carolina vote.

Can he do better in November ?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:48 AM
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20. When you're a hammer, it's hard not to notice nails sticking up.
The Hillary supporters who get hammered are the ones that attack Obama and his supporters as if they are compelled to do so. The Hillary supporters who don't do that, or have acknowledged it is over, are not the subject of such arguing. What I'm saying is those who engage and get engaged in testy exchanges are still in the proverbial mosh pit, of their own choosing. Everyone gets out of the mosh pit at their own speed, and it's not realistic to expect everyone to arrive emotionally at the same place at the same time.

Some Hillary supporters will cry "uncle," and accept the defeat. No one is arguing with those folks.

I do agree with you, however, that the victors should generally try to back off and let the losing team cart off their queen in dignity, allowing them a few insults to throw our way as they relent. If you've won, why not give the losers the last word?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:09 AM
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24. Yes, Mr. Hammer, of course; but if you pound every nail you see...where will you hang your hat?
On a day when you need a nail on which to hang it? :7
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:00 AM
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22. Amen
I'm a rabid Obama fan, and all I want now is everyone to come together.
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ElkHunter Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:06 AM
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23. Gloating is both unproductive and in bad taste...
...but I also think it's up to the Hillary campaign to set the tone. As she moves forward looking for a graceful and dignified way to exit, the attacks on Obama must stop.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:11 AM
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25. welcome to du, AZSlacker...
:kick:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:12 AM
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26. No gloating here.
Hillary ran a tough race, even if I didn't agree with the methods. I can respect her for her tenacity. :)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:14 AM
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27. No gloating, in fact I would like to Congratulate Hillary, her family and her supporters
for her many victories. I know how I felt after Gore and Kerry, so I can imagine the deep sorrow folks must feel. :hug:
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:18 AM
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28. Sounds sensible to me.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:37 AM
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29. Please understand that it's a 2-way street AZ -
Obama supporters have endured alot from Hillary and her fans - including her assertion that she and the republican nominee are the only candidates ready to assume the presidency. How could you expect us not to respond to that?

That said, I've been putting the nastiest Clinton supporters on ignore and I hope others will as well. There are several that hit every thread with vile and innane comments, that bear no relationship to reality. I've found that the easiest thing is to put these offenders on my ignore list so I'm not even tempted to respond.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:08 AM
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30. don't worry...
this was a hard fought battle and we've all learned a lot. I wish that Hillary had not taken such a low road during the campaign (I'd like to blame that on her advisors, but then she is ultimately responsible). I also object strenuously to the way she was promoted as the de facto candidate by the corporate sector and media from the word go, and the way that John Edwards was made invisible.

Absolutely we Obama supporters MUST realize --and respect-- that Hillary did gain a lot of support and the reasons for that support. There needs to be much dialogue about this in the months remaining.

Hope you'll engage in that dialogue, AZSlacker.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:27 AM
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31. Many Obama supporters only want
what's best for the party. We know that this is hard for Hillary,but ultimately, we know that come November, we are one party with one goal in mind:beating John McCain. I think you will see that those of us who sincerely want the Democratic party to win in November, will rally around the Democratic candidate, but not at the expense of alienating other Democratic candidates who we also respect and admire.

I also hope that Hillary supporters who genuinely want what's best for us in November, will overlook some idiots who just like to stir the pot.
Here's to beating John McCain:toast: and thanks for posting this:D
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:30 AM
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32. Good Post
The party needs to come together. I was an Edwards supporter but moved to Obama because of what I saw in Texas and what I think Senator Obama can do for the party in down ballot races. I am in Nick Lampson's district who is the number one target for the GOP this year and with Senator Obama on the top of the ticket, I think Nick has a real chance.

The only way that we can lose next year is if we fight among ourselves
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