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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:35 PM
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We believe that we have a MATHEMATICAL PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
This post is compiled and written jointly by grantcart and phrigndumass


I) Words Matter. Numbers Matter. Having just lived through 8 years of denial its time to show that the Democratic Party is not wishy washy but lives by clear analysis of facts and here are the facts:






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II) We also know that of the remaing super delegates 27 add on Super Delegates that those that come from the following states Obama won decisively he will carry all of these add on delegates:

Utah 1 5/9/2008
Colorado 1 5/17/2008
Kansas 1 5/17/2008
Alaska 1 5/23/2008
Georgia 2 5/24/2008
Wyoming 1 5/24/2008
Hawaii 1 5/25/2008
Mississippi 1 5/31/2008
Maine 1 6/1/2008
Minnesota 2 6/7/2008
Vermont 1 6/7/2008
Montana 1 6/8/2008
Wisconsin 2 6/13/2008
Idaho 1 6/14/2008
Iowa 1 6/14/2008
Virginia 2 6/14/2008
Washington 2 6/15/2008
North Carolina 2 6/21/2008
Oregon 1 6/21/2008
South Dakota 1 6/21/2008
Nebraska 1 6/21/2008

We also know that he will get these 7 super delegates when he gets the majority of pledged delegates on May 20th.

Clinton endorsers:
Sen. Maria Cantwell (WA) - most pledged delegates, most states won

Uncommitted:
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA) (added 3/30)
Christine Pelosi (CA) (added 3/30)
Gov. Roy Romer (CO) (added 3/30)
Former President Jimmy Carter (GA) (added 5/1)
Betty Richie (TX) (added 3/30)
Denise Johnson (TX) (added 4/6)


III) When we add these "Highly Likely Obama Supporters" and "Highly Likely Clinton Supporters" it means that of the remaining 214 super delegates Hillary has to win 87.9%
Obama needs only 26 super delegates or only 12.1%.


IV) Given the trends since Super Tuesday below we find that a Clinton victory is no longer mathematically possible and that an Obama victory is mathematically certain.






V) Therefore the members of DU who have added their names below believe that we now have a MATHEMATICAL PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. That while it will take the rest of the world to catch up with reality we don't think that the pretense that there is any rational chance that Senator Obama will not be our nominee should be maintained here.


Respectfully submitted,

Grantcart and Phrigndumass


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If you agree and would like to co-sign this document, please reply below and recommend this thread.

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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:36 PM
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1. First recommendation of well over 100 I hope nt
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Cheers!
:toast:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:40 PM
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13. you did a great great job with this my friend
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #13
80. You, yourself, grantcart, are tops in my view ... Cheers!
:toast:
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:50 PM
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43. I'm so damn giddy!!!!!!!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
97. would also like to acknowledge DemconWatch
for the numbers on Add ons and the Pelosi Club
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:33 PM
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119. Matt and Oreo at DemConWatch have done a terrific job!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #119
123. * * * Thanks to everyone for co-signing! * * *
Both grantcart and I appreciate everyone here for reading our mathy rants over the past few months!

:toast:

Congratulations Barack Obama! And to Hillary Clinton for running a very intense campaign.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #123
176. consider me cosigned and rec' - aiming for 1,000 recommends in 24 hours
Edited on Tue May-06-08 10:43 PM by WillYourVoteBCounted
to get the message out.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #176
251. Thanks for co-signing, wyvbc!
Thanks also for your daily news threads!

:yourock:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #251
267. Good morning - time for more people to recommend
and you are welcome. Thanks for the OP.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #123
291. Count me in, too. And thank you both for crunching the numbers!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:25 AM by calimary
I'm no math major.

Hearty congrats to Obama, AND also to Clinton for showing women everywhere that "THAT" glass ceiling is finally breakable.

EITHER WAY, the perennially disenfranchised, who never had a realistic hope of gaining a seat at the white guys' table, finally nailed one.

Because of this contest between Hillary and Barack, presidential campaigns will never be the same again. Because it's no longer unthinkable for either a person of color or a woman to be taken seriously as a viable candidate.

And THAT is a win for ALL OF US.

:toast:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #291
320. with names like "Grantcart and Phrigndumass" you deserve more recommends!
kicking cause we have 7 hours to go to meet recommend goal.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #320
323. Yep, I guess that makes you both the Smuckers of DU!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 02:27 PM by calimary
:toast: :headbang: :patriot:

Hey - as long as we're talking, could you please explain the "huckabee number" to me? Not sure I follow. Is that something that's expected to affect mcsame's side, or ours, or both?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #323
353. kicking for grantcart and phrigndumass - one hour left to recommend!
hurry, bring your friends.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #323
356. phrignsmuckers LOL
gotta be real careful how you say that!

:rofl:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #323
357. Huckabee Index info ...
The Huckabee Index is the number of any combination of superdelegates and convention/caucus delegates that the Obama campaign needs (or the Clinton campaign loses) to make it mathematically impossible for the Clinton campaign to win the nomination, based on current delegate count and polls for upcoming contests. (Disclaimer: This is meant to poke fun at Mike Huckabee, not Hillary Clinton)

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/phrigndumass

:loveya: - phrignsmuckers (lol)
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:36 PM
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2. Sounds good.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:37 PM
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3.  K & R!

:toast:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Click!
:toast:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. Elegant use of shading and fonts

I do say!

:7
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #19
36. Very Elite!!!
:party: :woohoo:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #36
114. Pleasing to much more than the eye.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #114
125. I'm stealing your mexican jumping bean!
:loveya: Thanks Kaleko!
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #125
142. Welcome to my entire collection of emotica!!!
We celebrate tonight
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:55 PM
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59. How much more of that $109million does she want to spend on...
useless advertising $$$ to the MSM! Obama will start focusing on McCain after tonight. Clinton's irrelevant and needs to salvage what remains of her political career.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #59
173. er she has more than $109, there's about $5 Mill of Bill's money not reported
I know its hard to keep up with all of the slight of hand, but the latest
on Clinton fortune came out early today.

Why not yesterday?? Oh well.

Nothing like a populist who has over 1/10 of a billion in personal fortune.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #59
220. thks EmeraldCityGrl welcome to DU
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:38 PM
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4. Send it to everyone.. This thing is over, on to McCain.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:02 PM
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144. thanks tridim
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #4
219. On to Mccain... Clinton and Obama can continue to compete, but FENCE MENDING must begin
It's time to have a "Gentleman's race" like Huckabee and McCain engaged in. The only way Hillary can win the nomination now is if Obama unexpectedly withdraws from the running, which seems pretty unlikely. Now that the contention is out of the way, it's time for our candidates to emphasize the points on which they AGREE. The truth of the matter is, there's no longer even a reason for FL and MI not to be seated. Hillary, sadly, can't win even with them added to her totals. And excluding them would be disasterous in November.

The time has come for us to focus on putting the party back together again. If Obama can draw Clinton supporters behind himself as well as keep his independents and his youth, we will bulldoze McCain in November. If Hillary and her supporters continue to be treated like enemies, that may not be possible.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
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6. I'm waiting to hear what old metric doesn't count now.
NOT.

:thumbsup:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #6
44. LOL!
:toast:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
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7. Thank God. nt
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importDavid Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
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8. aye
aye!

K&R!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #8
207. Thanks David can we borrow your Governor for 8 years
could use her for VP
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delt664 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #207
303. Jon Stewart for VP IMO
Im dead serious.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
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9. Impressive numbers!
Thanks to both of you for all your number crunching and clearly written analysis in your OPs over the weeks, they have been much appreciated!

:applause:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
48. Thanks, we did it for DU!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:39 PM
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11. Happily cosigning the thread..
I hope we'll have it done this week...

Hawkeye-X
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #11
35. thanks hawkeye
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:40 PM
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12. I'm glad to add my name to this document
Thanks for doing the necessary math to quantify what many of us knew to be the case, but could not verbalize as succinctly as the two of you have.

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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:40 PM
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14. We had one TWO MONTHS AGO (nm)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #14
215. tks lynyrd
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:40 PM
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15. You know you can count me in. K/R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
38. thanks
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #15
73. Thanks dbmk!!!
Cheers to your math as well!

:toast:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:40 PM
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16. Well Indiana is not totally in yet.
However, Within a few days I think it will be more than apparent that Clinton stands less than a 10 percent chance at getting the nomination in any other way than the nuke method. And hopefully the supers will respond.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
54. We projected Clinton +8 in our numbers, more in her favor ...
... than what the outcome should be

:toast:

Next step, the supers
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:41 PM
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17. Superb post
It's over.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:41 PM
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18. Happy to kick and recommend. n/t
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:42 PM
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20. Thank you
gentleposters, that was admirable clear! Good work!

-FedoraLV
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #20
56. Thanks FedoraLV! Cheers!
:toast:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:42 PM
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21. I actually opened up a bottle of champagne tonight.
Thanks for putting this post together. I am elated.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #21
42. me too
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #42
74. Cheers! n/t
:toast:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:56 PM
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grantcart opened his up awhile ago (lol)
I'm chugging an orange soda.

Cheers!

:toast:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:05 PM
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76. Thanks for this post and cheers!
:toast:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #76
141. Thanks myrna minx and back atcha! Cheers!
:toast:
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:42 PM
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22. K&R!
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:43 PM
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23. How can Hillary justify staying in after tonight?
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. whoosh!
that was the goalpost-express... Let's see where they turn up!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #23
41. Oh, she'll think of something.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:43 PM
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24. You math people rock. :)
:toast: :party:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
72. You math readers rock so hard!
:party: :party: :party:

Thanks!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:43 PM
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25. NOMINATED! GREAT WORK YOU TWO!!
Edited on Tue May-06-08 08:54 PM by berni_mccoy
On Edit: Oh, yeah, and COUNT ME IN.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
39. Thanks and back atcha for your insightful posts, berni!
:party:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
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40. thank you Berni
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:44 PM
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27. put me down!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:55 PM
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58. thanks fldem5
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:45 PM
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28. Count me in!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:27 AM
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223. tks sundrop
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:45 PM
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29. The math is really undeniable.
Of course, some people will continue to deny it.
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lucca Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:46 PM
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30. Wonderful !!
I really appreciate all your hard work!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
81. Thanks lucca!
:toast:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:46 PM
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31. I concur.
Nominee Obama!!!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #31
82. Cheers!
:toast:
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:46 PM
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32. 17 for him in NC might be a little more than it ends up at
But atm she is looking at only +2 delegates in Indiana. (thats without district information which seems impossible to produce)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:47 PM
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33. This is a historic night: I believe Obama is now the nominee
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:47 PM
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34. Finally.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
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37. Send this to the MSM!!!!!
Excellent!
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:50 PM
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45. Add me!! K&R nt
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:15 PM
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92. Thanks for co-signing, Laurab!
Cheers!

:toast:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:50 PM
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46. Adding my kick & a rec
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:52 AM
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216. Peace
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:51 PM
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47. Agree. k/r. Step aside, Senator Clinton.
Obama has a GE campaign to wage, and you are in the way, wasting his money and our time.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:52 PM
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49. Your pretty colors mean NOTHING.
I call your attention to Skinner's edict of the 27th of February, "A Few Reminders" ---

"At some point between now and the Democratic convention in August, one of the two remaining Democratic front-runners will drop out of the race, and the remaining candidate will become the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee."



Unless and until Our Girl loses the heart and the spirit to fight to save the Party we love from (how do you Obamatrons put it? -- Oh yeah: ) an "EPIC FAIL" in November, THERE IS NO PUTATIVE NOMINEE.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:54 PM
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55. and that is why we used the words
MATHEMATICAL PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE OF THE PARTY


Skinner and the mods will make their decision for DU for us we believe that mathematically it has been decided.

It is interesting that you have not addressed the content of the OP that the numbers are now unescapable.


Thank you for your input.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:12 PM
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89. Thanks for your reply, smalll
We stand by our words, and we are listening to yours.

Mathematically speaking, we do have a presumptive nominee.

:hi:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:52 PM
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50. Is it time for DU to declare him the presumptive nominee?
We need to get over this internecine fighting and start concentrating on beating McCain.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:56 PM
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63. That is entirely up to Skinner
this is for us what we think
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 PM
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68. Yes I know. But I don't see the harm in lobbying him about it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:30 PM
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115. that thought had not occured to me
interesting lol
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:52 PM
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51. Agreed. K&R n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:53 PM
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52. K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:41 AM
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213. tks Alex
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:54 PM
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53. Big, Fat Agree.
good work, and that's a whole lotta numbers!!!
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:55 PM
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57. Count me in!
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:56 PM
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60. We have a nominee.
Yay! Now we can get back to stuff that matters.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:56 PM
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61. PLEASE REVIEW FOR INDIANA, numbers are MORE drastic.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 PM
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69. Yes, we projected Clinton +8, it will be much less
Makes the statement in the OP much stronger!

Cheers!

:toast:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:05 PM
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75. Cheers!
:toast:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:14 PM
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90. better to go conservative helps make the argument
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:56 PM
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62. Mr. and Mrs. Bigbrother05 agree
pretty charts, I'm on drugs all week.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:57 PM
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64. thanks u2
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:58 PM
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65. Hell yes!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:42 AM
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214. thanks Kaz
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:00 PM
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66. Nice Work!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:00 PM
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67. Thanks You Guys !!! - Awesome Work !!! - K & R !!!
:bounce::yourock::yourock::bounce:

:toast:

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 PM
Original message
thanks willy
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:14 PM
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91. Thanks for co-signing, WillyT !!!
:toast:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 PM
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70. Thank you. Let's END this damned pissing match and move on to McCLOWN already.
Sheesh. Nothing like giving Grandpa Cheeseface a head-start . . .
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:07 PM
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79. we got 6 months
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:02 PM
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71. An EXCELLENT post by an EXCELLENT pair of DU'ers!
I always enjoy reading your posts! :D
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:10 PM
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85. very kind
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:21 PM
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105. Wow, nice! Thanks for co-signing, AZBlue!
:pals: :woohoo:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:06 PM
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77. Good work. Add my name.
K&R
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:06 PM
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78. Nice job k/r
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:08 PM
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83. Cheers!
Im Ready for a change I can believe in... How bout you?

Obama. 08 President Of The United States.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:08 PM
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84. Yep. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:23 PM
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158. thank you QA
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:10 PM
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86. YEEHAW
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:17 PM
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94. (pssst ... thanks L0oniX!)
:loveya: :party:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:11 PM
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87. I agree. n/t
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:18 PM
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96. Thanks for co-signing, Hissyspit
:hi:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:11 PM
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88. You guys rock
Nice job! :toast:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:19 PM
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99. You rock harder!
Thanks!

:headbang:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:01 PM
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143. my rock is never hard anymore
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:16 PM
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93. Good work-nt
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Sander Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:18 PM
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95. Well Done!
Thanks for the great analysis.

Go-Bama!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:45 AM
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294. thanks Sander
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:18 PM
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98. I'm lovin' it!
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:19 PM
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100. K&R
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gcindy6 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:19 PM
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101. Oh Happy Days!
Sooo looking forward to "The Change"!

:party:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:02 PM
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187. welcome to DU
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:20 PM
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102. K&R, and bookmarked.
Great work. I believe you are correct. Obama will definitely be the nominee.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:00 PM
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186. thanks speedo
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:20 PM
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103. Congratulations to both sides!
It was a well fought battle between two excellent candidates! This is a great night for all Democrats. We now have a very strong nominee and overwhelming excitement for our party heading into the General Election.

We are finally taking our country back!

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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:29 PM
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113. Thanks for posting that, TragedyandHope, you're right!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:20 PM
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104. Well the numbers don't lie and...and... oh... no more words!!!
:party: :toast: :bounce: :beer:

:thumbsup: :dem: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause:

:patriot:

:hi:

:grouphug:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:24 PM
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109. ...
:yourock: :woohoo: :pals: :patriot: :hug: :toast:

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:headbang:

Thanks for co-signing, futureliveshere!
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:01 AM
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234. I am glad to be part of the "Change Express"
You and Grantcart write most insightful and analytical posts and I look forward to many many more of them.

Thanks for being yourselves.... Aah, what an amazing night. The sweet smell of success is quite intoxicating, don't you think!! :D

:pals:
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:21 PM
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106. Yes, he won and it is time to start the campaign against McCain
It is also time for Hillary to drop out.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:21 PM
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107. Y'all are fantastic - thank you!
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:23 PM
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108. Excellent work. You two are brilliant.
K&R
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:27 PM
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110. Thanks for co-signing, last1standing!
We do it for the DU love!

:pals:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:27 PM
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111. Proud to add my name and respectfully ask we acknowledge Senator Obama as our presumptive nominee.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:37 PM
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124. thanks for PA DUers absolutely the best on to the GE
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:28 PM
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112. Agree - Obama Is The Mathematical Presumptive Nominee
EOM
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:32 PM
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116. Thanks grant and phrig!
It looks like this one is in the bag.

--IMM
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:34 PM
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169. Thanks for co-signing, IMM!
:toast:
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:32 PM
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117. To the Mathematical presumptive nominee!
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!:toast: :party: :toast: :party: :toast:
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:20 PM
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156. And to you for your saucy, mathy skills, TDR!
:loveya: :woohoo:

President. Barack. Obama.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:33 PM
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118. co-signing, recommending and kicking
I was asking myself where was grantcart w/the numbers tonight :)
Far from disappointing, I get a two-fer.

Thank you both very, very much.

I'm going to print it out and display it on my desk tomorrow in all its pretty colors.

phrigndumass
:yourock:

Grantcart
:yourock:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:35 PM
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121. thanks on to the GE
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:23 PM
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157. Wow, thanks WIllo!
Thanks for co-signing and for the love!

:yourock:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:34 PM
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120. Bravo - best post of the night
:beer:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:34 AM
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226. thks STB and thks for the drink
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:37 PM
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122. hell yeah
add me to that list.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:53 PM
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137. everything double double tonight lol
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:40 PM
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126. Signed, Kicked, Rec'ed, SWAK, CC'ed, etc. etc. etc.
:)
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:05 PM
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147. Thanks for co-signing, NHDem! (I didn't know which one to reply to)
So I'll reply to both. Cheers!

:toast:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:40 PM
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127. Signed, Kicked, Rec'ed, SWAK, CC'ed, etc. etc. etc.
:)
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:06 PM
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148. Thanks for co-signing, NHDem! (I didn't know which one to reply to)
So I'll reply to both. Cheers!

:toast:
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:43 PM
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128. You two are so smart; glad you're on our side! K & R n/t
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:43 PM
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129. K&R (n/t)
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:44 PM
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130. K&R (n/t)
Edited on Tue May-06-08 09:46 PM by ImForGore
Sorry about the dup!
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:44 PM
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131. That's about the size of it.
It's become increasingly clear that only in some Bizarro-World 11th-dimensional chronosynclastic infindibulum is there a chance for Clinton to win, and the latest primary results really do seal it.

I look forward to the help of the Clinton supporters as we march to victory against McCain and the Republican slime machine.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:45 PM
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132. You two are so smart; glad you're on our side! K & R n/t
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:54 PM
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139. Nah, we're just very curious! Thanks!
Cheers, Kukesa!

:toast:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:46 PM
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133. Deleted message
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:49 PM
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134. That's about the size of it.
It's become increasingly clear that only in some Bizzaro-World 29th-dimensional chronosynclastic infindibulum is there a chance for Clinton to win, and tonight's primary results really do seal the deal.

I look forward to the help of the Clinton supporters as we work together to defeat McCain and the Republican slime machine in November.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:49 PM
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135. K&R
And I agree that Obama should be the presumptive nominee.
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:52 PM
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136. K&R
I'll stick my name on that!

Thanks for doing the work
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:02 AM
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203. thanks and on to the GE
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Vote2008 Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:54 PM
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138. She is horrible. She really is!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:56 PM
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140. were just going to stay positive
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:02 PM
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145. Hear! Hear!
But hell, can't we just call him the presumptive nominee already?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:27 PM
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361. well we didn't want to challenge the moderators directly because if he is
the presumptive nominee then that is like telling the moderators that they have to enforce the rules differently.


We wanted to make our point but not pressure the moderators. Only assist them. lol
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:03 PM
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146. signed
:D
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:30 AM
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225. sealed
:)
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:12 AM
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253. delivered
;-)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:11 PM
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149. This is the first GD/P thread I've replied to in quite some time. Let's hope there are more to come!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:18 PM
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154. Thanks for co-signing, dicksteele!
Cheers!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:14 PM
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150. Well, you know I'll recommend.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:15 PM
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151. You 2 guys are great! Obama is dah man!
And Hillary can go scrub toilets.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:17 PM
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152. ready for GE Major
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OneSelf Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:18 PM
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153. Sounds Great!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:19 PM
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155. Thanks Philadelphia
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:24 PM
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159. Thank you guys for all of your hard work
This primary season! You two, along with TVOR always rejuvenated my spirits when the days were darkest during the Clinton, Mclame, and M$M assaults on Obama!:party:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:29 PM
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164. Wow, thanks hogwyld! Very happy to be there for you!
:hug: :party:
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:25 PM
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160. This was not about the Democratic Nominee
It was about our next President. It is time for Senator Obama to leave the title of Senator behind. He has just been given a better pay-grade and a far tougher job. Let's roll up our sleeves and help him remove all the trash so we can get on with the job of repairing our damaged planet.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:28 PM
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163. the testing of Obama is over
now the country gets to take a test
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:30 PM
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166. Hear Hear!
Thanks for posting that, chknltl

:toast:
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:28 PM
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161. Signed
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:28 PM
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162. Signed, ih8thegop. May 6, 2008. 11:28PM.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:30 PM
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165. K&R- Please add me to the list!
Thank you Grantcart and Phrigndumass for a fantastic job! :patriot:
I'm sipping an elitist cup of Yogi Tea in honor of your hard work and dedication.
Cheers to N.C. and I.N. voters for putting the MSM on notice and for supporting Barack Obama!
Here's to Hope! :toast: Go tenacious Dems! :kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:44 PM
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177. thanks Omomma
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:31 PM
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167. Sincerely, Truth2Tell. Thank God it's finally over. nt
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:32 PM
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168. It is now all over but the shouting
I predict that Senator Clinton will continue on for two more weeks, then drop out. There is nothing short of a miracle that could pull it out for her, and I think she is a bit short on miracles these days.

Props to Senator Clinton for mentioning the cyclone in Myanmar/Burma, and for her conciliatory words towards Senator Obama.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:34 PM
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170. GOBAMA !!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:36 PM
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171. Done!
I'll be so happy when it is over.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:40 PM
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172. Well Done, K&R
Edited on Tue May-06-08 10:40 PM by CaptJasHook
:toast:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:40 PM
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174. Someone actually did some work!
:D K&R, of course.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:51 PM
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181. one guy did a lot of work and one guy takes 1/2 the credit
and its pretty easy for everyone to figure out which one I resemble lol:boring:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:51 PM
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182. " It's hard work" and Bush can't do it


Let's stay Fired Up and Ready To Go!
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Ed76638 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:42 PM
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175. Signed
I love math!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:49 PM
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179. welcome to DU
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:46 PM
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178. Love you guys!
Score one for America!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:49 PM
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180. Let's tell that Chuck Todd to step aside!
Ring,ring,ring...It's 3 AM

:boring:

Earth to Clinton House: Wake Up,Wake Up we have some graphs we would like to show you!

Hello, are you there? :shrug:

Come on over to DU and look at these numbers!:bounce:

K and R

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:53 PM
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183. what if Florida and Michigan are seated?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:58 PM
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184. they can sit down but they cannot vote
Michigan? no name on the ballot?

FL no campaign? If a campaign isn't important than why bother to have any anywhere.


Follow the rules get the nominee and then start reconciling.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:58 PM
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185. Hillary supporter here. Ready to sign on and get in line behind our nominee. I will be happy to work
for a President Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:22 PM
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191. thank you so much what a good sport you are
God bless you and God bless Bill and Hillary Clinton
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:56 AM
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233. You are awesome for having that kind of spirit!
I bow to your show of grace. We have a lot of making up to do with Hillary supporters.
I hope more of her folks consider that freepers began to invade our blogs and forums just to
screw us up. They posed as Obama supporters to go around throwing dung and dirt. Operation Chaos!
There are some mouthy and immature Dem. newbies, but I hope they are learning from your example.
Thank you for teaching us all an invaluable lesson. Go Dems! :grouphug:
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1trackmindGOP Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:50 AM
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295. Thank you and we welcome you aboard
We need the whole party united to take on McCain and the Republican corruption...thanks for joining us and taking the step to unite the party.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:09 PM
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188. If only the idiots in the MSM could figure it out -- but they'd rather simplify and spin.
Thanks for the work on this.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:16 PM
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189. Russert just said "Obama is going to be the nominee"
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:28 PM
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195. Is he the new Pundit, most times I do not believe him! I love Rachel's
point of view. Am now convinced, Senator Obama will be our nominee. People listen to you on here, ask Obama's supporters to not insult Senator Clinton's supporters, let's just celebrate his win in NC and who knows, when the final votes come in for Virginia, the margin will me much smaller. Thanks.
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But.... Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:17 PM
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190. Nothing to it...
but to do it.:party:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:37 AM
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211. thanks dale
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:24 PM
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192. K & R. Am with you but it has not ended tonight!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:24 PM
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193. I support this thread - Tim Russert NBC
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:25 PM
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194. K & R
Give em hell Obama!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 PM
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196. Huffington Post "Presumptive Nominee"
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:32 PM
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197. From the looks of it, Senator Obama will be the nominee. So now
it is time to unify democrats to get him in the White House. Being divisive is not going to work. I bow down to you sir, you have all the answers when am scared. Thank you
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:37 PM
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198. akbacchus it is a long road but we are going to make it
thanks for stopping by and rec'ing
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:25 AM
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272. I was going to post that pic and headline. Thanks. Here are the current ones...
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:27 AM by Duppers
Here are their current (9:30am) headlines:

OBAMA VS MCCAIN

CLINTON OUT OF MATH, MONEY AND MOMENTUM...

Obama Dominates In North Carolina...

Clinton Wins Indiana By Less Than 2 Points ...

THE MATH: Obama 184.5 Delegates Shy Of Nomination, Clinton 341
217 Delegates At Stake In Final Six Contests, 270 Superdelegates Left

Obama Shifting To General Election Strategy...

Hillary Cancels Morning Show Appearances...

Clinton Camp Message: "Take A Deep Breath"...

Clinton Advisers Expect Calls To Resign From Supporters...


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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:55 PM
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199. Fabulous post, count me in!
:bounce: :kick: :bounce:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:59 PM
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201. gotcha thanks and go back to sleep
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erebusman Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:55 PM
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200. signed NT
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:59 PM
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202. K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:45 AM
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227. thks byronius
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:03 AM
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204. Another good job. Thanks for this.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:34 AM
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210. thanks Walter
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:10 AM
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205. As recommend # 199 ... I bow to you.
and :woohoo: !!!

K AND R yous two!
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:11 AM
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206. Here's hoping that Hillary sees the writing on the wall and
drops out before she does any more damage to the party.
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:29 AM
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208. Thanks for the numbers. Wouldn't know it by Clinton's speech tonight.
Well, the consolation of dragging this on beyond the point of necessity is that Obama gets to travel in full earnest to all of the states and all states will have a chance to get to know him personally. It's not all bad, but it's getting to be a little embarrassing to see Senator Clinton claiming victory. I swear, though, I don't see any of these numbers in the headlines. As far as I can tell from going through Google News and looking at articles, the race is tight, both in popular vote and in delegates. And the fact that Obama hasn't decisively won is somehow a negative on him and not her. Setting aside hostilities for a moment, having such a close race isn't such a bad thing, considering how much more voice the people are getting this time around.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:32 AM
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209. not a bad thing at all gtar and now we can start on the GE
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:38 AM
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212. she needs help paying off her campaign debt
shame some of that would go to flop sweat and jowls Mark Penn.
But those schools and charities deserve to be paid off.

Maybe Bill or Hill can use their personal fortune. They're still really
rich.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:33 AM
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231. I heard a "humbled" tone in her voice.
I see what your saying and agree with some things you said gtar100, but this one sorta squeaked out:
"And the fact that Obama hasn't decisively won is somehow a negative on him and not her."

I think that statement cuts two ways, and cancels out any valid argument that HRC campaign could try to make. Hillary should actually be the one who closed this out a long time ago. She was favored.

She is lacking support and money because most Democratic voters do not want, and should not want, to back anyone, not even the Clinton's for POTUS- because they are corporate funded, run a corporate backed campaign, and will run a corporate White House. We have to address corporate corruption, and clean up our own party.

The Clinton's are eerily similar to what we have right now and have had for the last 10-20 years.

Penn/Colombia was a bad blow for her intra-party connections, and showed us just how two-faced and corrupt politics can be. The Clinton trademark is very much tied down by too many political negatives. Barack is not perfect, but the scales are certainly tipped in favor of his credibility.

The most important thing is that Democratic party is finally trending away from supporting corporate owned policies and politicians. That is a good thing. That is the only way we will make progress for our nation, not just our party. Ultimately, we want our elected officials to do their job honestly.

Those voters that are pouring money into the Dem. party and into our causes are no doubt, coming from Obama supporters. He is pulling in the dough we need to send McBush on vacation for the next 3 years, and to set up a chance for a majority down ticket to help our President/House/Senate do the people's work in 2009-2013.

Barack's platform is straight up being directly funded by his supporters. That is un-heard-of for a Presidential Candidate. After this one, hopefully our future Democratic POTUS nominees will be even better and bring us more progress! Thanks for you input gtar100. Go Dems! :applause:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:53 AM
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232. Barack is not only not perfect he regularly says so in his stump speech
that is all the perfection I need.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:53 AM
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217. woot.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:54 AM
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218. GUYS .. We need popular vote calculation.
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DeadElephant_ORG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:06 AM
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221. Thanks!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:18 AM
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222. Tim Russert
Russert replied, We now know who the Democratic nominee is gonna be, and no ones gonna dispute it, before listing reasons why it would behoove Clinton to reconsider going forward with her campaign hoping against all hope.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/index.php?p=990

includes video

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NickMorgan Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:29 AM
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224. I HEREBY RATIFY AND AFFIRM! nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:11 AM
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229. thanks and welcome
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:06 AM
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228. It's not over yet.
Hillary can sweep the final states with 88% of the votes and catch up.

:rofl:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:17 AM
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230. Respectively co-signed,
Leopolds Ghost
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:02 AM
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235. I support Obama but,
"we don't think that the pretense that there is any rational chance that Senator Obama will not be our nominee should be maintained here."

I think people should be allowed to maintain whatever hope they want to, until she officially drops out. They have a right to express their opinions as much as you do.
Do I wish she would drop out now? Yes, I do.
Do I want to force others to admit defeat right now, or more importantly censor what they say on here? No
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:10 AM
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236. You forgot to factor in one thing HRC Nulcear option.Wait for it, WAIT FOR IT!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:11 AM by raystorm7
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:15 AM
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237. AGAIN WITH THE MATH! ..... ENOUGH ALREADY!
You are ignoring the possibility that Barack Obama might suddenly change his mind about wanting to be the nominee.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:49 AM
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244. lol tks
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:16 AM
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238. fantastic! proud to be rec #232 (nt)
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:17 AM
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239. Mark Twain (or is it Roy Rodgers?) is spinning in his grave.
Anyone who appreciates good statistics and visualizations will understand why.

(hint: "Lies, Damned Lies, and.....")

What a patently twisted way to present those figures.

You should be ashamed - Karl Rove would be proud.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:52 AM
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246. your specific and empirically driven examples are welcome
however your patronizing slur tells me that your won't be back with anything that actually has to do with the numbers in the OP.


BTW we used no statistics. We used actual delegate counts. Do you have any idea of the difference between the two?
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:27 AM
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240. Just kicking
in the middle of the night for humanity at large :-) :kick:
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:38 AM
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241. Signed * Sealed * Delivered
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:46 AM
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242. grantcart & phrigndumass rock!
Thank you both for your work....awesome!
Agree and recommended~

:loveya:


:yourock:

peace~
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:48 AM
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243. Thanks! Sure beats the MSM
Kicked and R!
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:52 AM
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245. K/R
Thanx guys- time to heal the wounds and join together and beat mcsame!!

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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:54 AM
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247. Nice job! n/t
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:07 AM
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248. Not that I expect Hillary to drop out until the
FL and MI delegates are decided.

But I like your numbers!
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Utah_liberal Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:13 AM
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249. congrats Obama. You will be our nominee
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:08 AM
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250. I'm in...
For the good of the party, Hillary must drop out!

Thanks for this great analysis - I will be using it whenever necessary.

Here in GMT, I stayed up WAY past a decent hour watching results come in - what an exciting night it was! It was amazing to me to see the Clinton supporting talking heads try to spin this - they kept ignoring the delegate count and one kept repeating that Obama had said once that he would win Indiana. The question that I was yelling at the TV that no one would ask was, "So f-ing what?!?" Does that make the results somehow different? He won the night and the nomination, and some people want to continue to move the goalposts. This shit used to be funny. It is still a joke, but becoming pitiful. Hillary needs to quit trying to find a way to cheat herself to the nomination and follow the rules, look at the numbers, and DROP OUT.

PS Obama's acceptance speech last night was EXCELLENT. ;)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:22 AM
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279. Baghdad Bob would be proud
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:24 AM
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292. I swear, some of the spinners here make Baghdad Bob look rational. n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:11 AM
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252. I expect Hillary will continue on through the ...
Kentucky/West Virginia Primaries and concede after them no matter what the outcome.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:26 AM
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254. K & R
Was able to sleep after I read this....

may our Higher Power guide and bless us all.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:32 AM
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255. Thank you for putting the numbers in such an understandable format! rec'd
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:38 AM
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256. Barack Obama IS the Nominee of our Party - No doubt about it!
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:45 AM
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257. K&R! phrigndumass and grantcart rock!
You guys are awesome!!!! :grouphug:

:yourock:

:headbang:

:woohoo:

:applause:

:toast:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:21 PM
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333. You are awesomer! Your article: "Barack Obama is the New Comeback Kid"
is spot on! Everyone should read (link below).

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080507_barack_obama_is_the_.htm

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:52 AM
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258. Thank you so much!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:34 AM
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259. Thank you for the facts. We have our nominee. It's time to unite and
beat John McCain.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:38 AM
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260. Kick! This is the only poster I can call a phrigndumass and not have my post deleted.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:10 AM
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263. LMAO!
... or should that be LMPDAO!

:rofl:

Thanks for co-signing, Buzz Clik!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:45 AM
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276. I signed on early -- weeks ago. And it was my pleasure to do so.
Over the past weeks, you have provided us with detailed and accurate analyses that I could only pretend to do. I've downloaded your spreadsheet and kicked around the numbers.

Awesome. Totally awesome.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:04 AM
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261. I concur...
GOBAMA!

:woohoo:
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:06 AM
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262. I don't normally believe in petitions
Hopefully, though, this one actually has a chance of being listened to.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:10 AM
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264. Wow, that is a lot of #'s. How elitist of you.
Seriously, that is one awesome document to show that its time to stick the fork in Hillary, she is done.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:11 AM
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265. Agreed! nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:43 AM
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365. thanks hamdenrice
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:13 AM
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266. For the many negative aspects of Senator Clinton...
...I have always believed that she was an intelligent person. Of course, at times her ambition and subsequent triangulation have made me doubt this judgement.

If she doesn't drop out now, it's clear to me that she has allowed her personal need for increased power to completely destroy any rational decision making process she ever possessed.

We can't afford to have a President who can't discern reality. (We've had 8 years of that already.)
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:14 AM
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268. Signing on.
K&R! :kick:
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:18 AM
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269. GoBama!! - K&R
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hans Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:23 AM
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270. Yes, and thanks for your fine work. N/T
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:24 AM
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271. A big K&R for another in a long line of great "it's the math, stupid" posts
grantcart and phrigndumass, you rock!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:23 AM
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290. we were thinking of starting a new account so that we could join the names but
there was just something about phringindumassgrant that just didn't sit right with me.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:13 PM
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319. Hell, it doesn't sit right with me, either! LOL
maybe phrigngrantcart :rofl:
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:28 AM
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273. I'm in - but still scared of reality.................
Nuclear Option rule changes and all things Clinton .................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:28 AM
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274. I'm going to agree with you.
Right after W.Va. and KY vote.

I don't want them to be robbed of their votes in a history making election. And I would like to have them in the big tent after all is said and done.

Looking more and more like Obama/Clinton 08. Just have to change the order on my buttons.....

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liberalcanuck Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:28 AM
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275. K&R - w00t! n/t
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:50 AM
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277. Excellent work grantcart and phrigndumass!!
K & R

:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:18 AM
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278. thanks on to the GE
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:25 AM
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280. PERSPECTIVE: MCCAIN IS ONLY WINNING 75% OF THE VOTE
McCain is only winning about 75% of the GOP Primary Vote SINCE HE BECAME THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE for the GOP. There is no way Hillary can win 90% EVEN IF OBAMA DROPPED OUT. The Super Delegates need to see this.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:27 AM
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281. Co-signed. (nt)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:14 AM
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287. thanks redqueen
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:28 AM
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282. Yep. nt
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:29 AM
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283. Agree
Yes

K & R
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:32 AM
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284. Great work
Time to end this thing. Way past time.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:34 AM
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285. Done and Done.
cosigned and rec'ed.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:58 AM
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286. Recommended and now
:kick: KICKED!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:15 AM
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288. Great Work, I agree and so do rational people, kick nominated n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:21 AM
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289. Happiness is, Hillary returning to New York to get back to her job...
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:30 AM
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293. Impressive piece of work. Thanks and GOBAMA!!! (eom)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:23 AM
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299. thanks chieftain
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:52 AM
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296. I think we have our nominee (n/t)
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Rottenmac Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:13 AM
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297. r'ed NT
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:15 AM
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298. When the people lead...
...the leaders will follow !
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:29 AM
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300. Here's to Mathematicaly Presumptive Nominee Obama!


:kick: & R!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:32 AM
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301. First time I've ever seen "believe" and "mathematical" in the same sentence.
What you are really trying to say is that Obama critics and HC supporters should be silenced on this website.
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:35 AM
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302. I'll vote again
One of the few times I really felt my vote counted for something was when I voted for Obama in the South Carolina primary, so I'll happily vote here again.
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delt664 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:48 AM
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304. Woohoo!
/Signed
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:57 AM
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305. Wow!
I finally took the time to read this! :applause: I saw it last night, but went WTF, numbers all looked high for Hillary and I moved on too quickly. Now that I am sick with some stomach freak'n thing, I have slowed down enough to look at it between bathroom runs. LOL :toast: Fantastic! :bounce: :applause: :woohoo:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:04 PM
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307. thanks for coming back hope you get better
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:19 PM
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308. Thanks grantcart. Feeling somewhat better, just feel weak. Yeah OBAMA!
And thanks for your work!
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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:03 PM
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306. YES!!! finally.. n/t
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:23 PM
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309. K&R. Math is just as important as Science! n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:23 PM
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310. kicked!!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:28 PM
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311. K&R. It's time to focus on beating McSame in the GE. (nt)
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:40 PM
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312. Poik..n/t
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:42 PM
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313. It's time to start spending effort&$ for General Election! Now!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:18 PM
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350. manaste
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:46 PM
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314. What's the Huckabee Index?
Math major here. Love the charts. Missed what the Huckabee Index is. Please enlighten me. I'm guessing it's evangelicals who won't vote Democratic?

Obama supporter here. I figure Hillary is holding on with the expectation that she can negotiate some nominees for spots in an Obama presidency. Gives her a sense of power. Maybe majority leader for herself. I would support that. Women as majority leaders in both houses. Even better than CA having two female senators.

We've gotta heal the rift and win at the top and thruout the tickets in each state.
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Girlieman Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:52 PM
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315. Like the 'magic number' in sports
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:00 PM
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318. Thanks. "Magic Number" in sports is meaningless to me, but
this:

The Huckabee Index is the number of any combination of superdelegates and convention/caucus delegates that the Obama campaign needs (or the Clinton campaign loses) to make it mathematically impossible for the Clinton campaign to win the nomination, based on current delegate count and polls for upcoming contests. (Disclaimer: This is meant to poke fun at Mike Huckabee, not Hillary Clinton)

is a perfect explanation.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:56 PM
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316. K & R
:thumbsup:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:59 PM
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317. Thanks for the Excellent Post
K & R
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:35 PM
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321. You DO realize the MSM will NEVER pick up a blog entry by someone named phrigndumass, right?
:evilgrin:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:15 PM
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332. LOL ... Steven Leser calls us "2 handled posters" in his awesome OpEd piece ...
... for the same reason! Very well written article, with a reference to this OP, I highly recommend reading!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080507_barack_obama_is_the_.htm

Big shout for DU poster stevenleser! :applause: :toast:
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:02 PM
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322. having signed into DU for years...
Edited on Wed May-07-08 02:03 PM by oxbow
Let's get this over with. It's time for the main attraction.
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:14 PM
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331. Bingo nt
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Xenocrates Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:29 PM
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324. Good Work! R&K! (nt)
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:34 PM
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325. K&R
:kick:
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:40 PM
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326. K&R
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:40 PM
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327. K&R!
Glad to sign!
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:46 PM
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328. Co-signed. n/t
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lcdnumber6 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:04 PM
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329. cosigned and recommended nt
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:08 PM
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330. Numbers, and figures and logic, oh my!
I second (three-hundred forty-third) this document's admission to our forum. Even if the numbers are partially compiled by someone named Phrigndumass. And what is a Huckabee Index?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:22 PM
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334. Consider me signed up.
Great post guys. Thanks! :patriot:
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evolvingsteve Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:28 PM
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335. I use to hate math....
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:28 PM by evolvingsteve
but now I LOVE it it! lol.



GO OBAMA, we got this and there is nothing Clinton supporters can do about it.
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:45 PM
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336. Presumptive nominee does not equal national win
Hillary supporters stay home. There are millions of us. We are not a Nader 1-2% spoiler. Think about it.
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:53 PM
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337. Being called racists
When many of us Hillary supporters are non-white does not help. You might notice that the news media says that Obama has won. The same news media that has lied on the Republican Party's behalf for eight years. But now they are telling the truth. I have swampland in Florida. Alligator free. Really.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:59 PM
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338. I'm in. nt
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Kjaereste Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:02 PM
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339. It's time
Hillary needs to endorse Obama and drop out of the race. Otherwise, she's only hurting the party and helping McCain, which would be a catastrophe for our country and the world. I love Hillary, but it's time she faced the music.

Kate
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:05 PM
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340. Excellent research....count me in.
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Missouri Blue Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:11 PM
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341. Add mine.
It's the end of the Clinton Era.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:15 PM
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349. tks Missouri
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:24 PM
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342. I believe in science and math
I believe the mathematical certainty is Barack Obama is now our nominee.

Congratulations to Senator Obama! Yes we can!


Sonia
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:17 PM
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363. thanks Sonia
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:38 PM
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343. I admire her tenacity
She's obviously taking Winston Churchill's advice -- "Never, never, never, never give up."

But I'm afraid it's a lost cause.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:44 PM
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344. Our Focus should be 100% McCain Defeating Strategy
McSame is tied to the hip with Bush - take a look:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Y1qcma0Q4">Guilt by more than association
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:28 PM
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345. kick
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:33 PM
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346. k&r n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:46 PM
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351. thanks
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:44 PM
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347. hmmm i smell rovian type ulterior motive-screw the the dlc/neocon branch
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:02 PM
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348. Yep, it's all Obama.
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:51 PM
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352. Rec & signed. Your post is a masterpiece. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:59 PM
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354. Giving this one more kick!
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hillsidestrangler Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:09 PM
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355. Co-Sign! K&R...n/t
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:49 PM
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358. K&R!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:58 PM
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359. It's TRULY Inevitable
My local reactionary rag had our next president, Barack Obama, and his wife on the front page! It is the first time they have been so featured, but not the last!
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:10 PM
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360. outSTANDING gentleman!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 08:16 PM by DWilliamsamh
Thanks for all your hard work! This is just the culmination of a long season of showing people the FACTS!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:28 PM
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362. thanks DWilliams
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:51 AM
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366. Thanks DWilliamsamh!
Facts have a tendency to linger, don't they? They might be battled and bruised, but in the end the facts reveal the truth!

:hi:
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:33 PM
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364. kick nt
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gabby garcia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:51 AM
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367. signed!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 08:04 AM
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368. Can't recommended i
but I can kick it. GOod work guys~!!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:51 PM
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369. I'm on board...
***Kicked*** :kick: ***Kicked***

Cannot recommend any longer.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:39 AM
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370. Co-signed!
:kick:
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