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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:19 AM
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I just got a call from the Obama campaign- said they were recording it!
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:22 AM by undeterred
They were asking for money. How weird is that to say you are recording a campaign fundraising call?! I am an Obama supporter but I think that is very strange.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:21 AM
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1. I hope you didn't give them your credit card #.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:23 AM
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4. I didn't contribute today.
I've written a check for them in the past. I will probably never contribute to anyone over the phone.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:36 AM
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14. Smart move. Too many scams these days. You never know.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:21 AM
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2. So if you promise the money, they can call that a contract?
Or maybe they're not sure of their fundraisers, and are checking up on them?

Different...
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:22 AM
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3. yah, sounds kinda fishy. Scammers trying to sound legitimate..
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:24 AM
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5. They asked for $150. It was a Massachusetts call.
I said I was home today and willing to call voters in Indiana but they weren't interested.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:26 AM
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7. It's odd they'd ask for a dollar amount. Alert his HQ. nt
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:08 PM
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37. no it's not odd that they ask for a dollar amount.
I've gotten calls for fundraising efforts from both campaigns, and the DNC. The first line is "would you like to make a top doner contribution amount of 150 dollars?"

They will take anything they can get, they just start with a big number.

As for being recorded, I know collections companies will say this call is being recorded or monitored for training purposes. But I have never had a campaign ask that. Kind of weird.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. On Primary day
When all resources are set aside for GOTV...I doubt they are making fundraising calls.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:17 PM
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44. possibly.
but it's still not odd to ask for a dollar ammount, which is what I was talking about.

The op did the correct thing and alerted us, and the Obama campaign to a possible fraud case.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:26 AM
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6. My first thought was to
cover themselves in case people complained about rude or threatening behavior by the campaign volunteer -- but I could be wrong.

But that's a legit concern if they ask for your credit card. You might want to contact his HQ. :shrug: Do you have the number on caller ID?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:34 AM
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11. Yes, I do.
Just contact the campaign through the website?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:39 AM
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17. Phone number
(866) 675-2008
You may want to call on this one.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 AM
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Thanks. I just called the number you gave me
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:50 AM by undeterred
and the person I talked to said it didn't sound right to her either. They have an office in Boston, but no phone bank in Massachusetts.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:26 AM
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8. Sounds like Fraud
I think you should report this to the campaign and if you have the number forward that to.

I've never heard of them doing phone solicitations or asking for specific amounts.

The fact it was done on an election day when all resources are devoted to GOTV makes it even more fishy.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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12. I don't know how $150 from me could help
bring Obama supporters to the polls. And since I volunteered to make calls and they said no- well that is weird too.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:51 AM
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26. That's shady. If you get a call you can say you'll donate through the website.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:00 PM
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28. Maybe call the police, too? Or is Obama's campaign going to take steps? nt
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:07 PM
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35. I called the Obama campaign and told them about it.
I'm sure they've got people who look into this sort of thing.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:16 PM
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42. We were getting them in Ohio last year. I thought it was strange then.
I posted about it in a thread where someone else was also questioning about it. It was early, way before our primary. At the time we were leaning towards Edwards. I found the two calls we received really demanding and rude and at first it really turned me off to even looking at Obama after Edwards opted out.

Ours was a request for $200 first and then snarkily dropping the amount requested. The 2nd call that came months later(but still way before our primary) was a request for $150. Both were requests to be placed on a credit card.

*I found the post* Note the OP was actually told it was a telemarketer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2178972#2179082

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. I've donated to them since Septemeber
They have never called me. Wierd.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:27 AM
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9. Quality Control, maybe?
:shrug:
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:29 AM
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10. well, it is weird for a campaign to do this quality control procedure
which is normally meant for businesses to ensure that the quality of the representation of their company that the phone workers are giving meets their standards.

It would be interesting for a campaign to do this, it woulda helped this guy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x128078

who was right well pissed off about the quality of a campaigns response on several calls he made to complain about auto-calls.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:36 AM
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13. I think they do that to prevent fraud
Just sayin'.

Julie
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:36 AM
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15. yeah, that does sound like fraud actually.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:38 AM
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This really does sound fishy
how many times has people made donation without being told
they are recording their message.

This should be sent to Obama campaign HQ now before it gets
too late somebody is trying to sabotage the campaign and all
roads leads to Clinton.

Why does the Obamas campaign keeps thinking that they are getting
a fair deal from the Clintons is beyond me. Why can't they fight
back or made these dirty tactics by the Clintons public.

:grr:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:40 AM
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19. I don't think this is Clinton's campaign
I think this is someone who is using the election to try to get people's credit card numbers.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:49 AM
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24. Yup.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #19
61. I would not put anything past the Clintons
these days, it does not take them a second to get
a charity group representing some kind of organization
to sabotage his donation.

This is what it has come down to, sabotaging his campaign
by using some type of robocall to deter people making
donations.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 AM
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22. and why do you think its the Clintons? sounds like a Nigerian Email type scam.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. We pounced on it
We are policing are own on that TexasHill

:-)
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #22
57. You seem to have a lot of knowledge about this
is there something we need to know about?

:shrug:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:38 AM
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16. delete - double post
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:38 AM by spokane
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:40 AM
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18. Well, the caller ID said Massachusetts
and not Obama... My first thought after they said the Obama campaign was- why aren't you calling people in Indiana or North Carolina today? You usually don't fundraise the day of a primary vote.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:42 AM
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20. They have said that
every time they call me. Not a problem.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:42 AM
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21. How do you know it was a call from the Obama campaign?
It could be from anyone who would like to have your credit card details.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. That's what the caller said.
So I really don't know- it could have been anyone.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:59 AM
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27. I just this minute got one asking for money, saying not to donate online...not safe.
I said what? I always donate online.

I thought it was odd.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. No way... what's going on here? Did you report it to the campaign?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Not yet...here's the number from caller ID
617-245-9602
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. Mass
Area code same as the OP...sounds like a scam
(866) 675-2008
Is the campaigns number
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. Saying not to donate online....so very weird.
The whole call sounded strange.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #36
50. Question--does your name appear on FEC reports?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:57 PM
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53. Yes it does.
But I've only given a large enough amount for it to get there once. I just used the lookup site to check on a couple of other unidentified numbers and one was for the DLC, and the other for a Democratic marketing number.

So, its Democrats who are annoying me... too bad they don't know I only give to individual candidates whose fundraisers I go to or to Feingolds Progressive Patriots Fund. They are wasting their time.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:00 PM
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55. Yes.
But mostly from the Dean campaign, the DNC, and DFA donations.

We give to Obama as well, but mostly smaller donations.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:12 PM
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40. here's what I found
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. This site
Identifies who they are identifying themselves as not what their listing is and the earliest information is from today.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:33 PM
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47. According to 1 reports the identity of this caller is Direct Marketing
Thats it.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. undeterred, does your name appear on FEC reports?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:59 PM
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54. yes - see my above response
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:39 PM
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48. I googled it
whocalled.us
Calls From (617) 245-9602. 1 calls reported from this number.According to 1 reports the identity of this caller is Direct Marketing ...
whocalled.us/lookup/6172459602 - 2 hours ago - Similar pages - Note this
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #31
56. This number used to be a payphone in Wakefield, MA, not sure what it is now.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #56
67. Very strange. It was an odd call.
.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:01 PM
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30. I wonder if it really was the Obama camp.
seriously. I hope you didn't give them anything, and not just because I support Hillary either. :)
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:45 PM
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49. No, I didn't.
For campaigns, I usually write checks and fill out all the information that the campaigns ask for. Anyone who asks for money over the phone- I tell them to mail me something.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:03 PM
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33. That's definitely a scam..
they would never do that. They don't need to do that. His campaign is loaded.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. They send out emails
when they need money and it comes plus they just reached the 1.5 million donor mark last night.

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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:16 PM
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43. Exactly..
I have never heard them soliciting donations by phone. Even if they did, they wouldn't be asking for private information over the phone. They would direct you to mail a check or direct you to their website.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:09 PM
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38. The only place where I donate is the barackobama.com website.
That I know is legit.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:27 PM
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46. I left a message w/ the Boston office.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:49 PM
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51. for quality assurance - nt
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:31 PM
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58. I just filed a report with the FTC.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:32 PM
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59. I rec'd one from the Clinton campaign the other night
Edited on Tue May-06-08 01:33 PM by OzarkDem
said the same thing, the call was being recorded.

Maybe its a new procedure to ensure they have proof in the event of accusations about push polling or voter suppression tactics.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:39 PM
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60. Hey OzarkDem, do you happen to know if your name appears in the online FEC database of
contributors?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp

If I were a scam artist, this would be my square one.
I filed an FTC complaint, will keep people updated with my findings.

If you have that phone# on caller ID still, that would help.
I'll call both campaigns tomorrow and see what they have to say about it.

Thanks!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #60
62. Thanks, I'll check it out
Its worth looking into. And yes, I'm in the database.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:45 PM
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63. I Never heard of Obama doing telephone fundraising
I have never heard of the Obama campaign doing telephone fundraising. I've been on their donor lists for months and never received a fundraising phone call (unlike every other political campaign that calls).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. I have gotten a call before, but it was a while ago.
The caller ID said Obama Campaign and the man sounded like he was in a busy call center- and like he genuinely liked Obama. Also, he was telling me to donate online if I could. Not pushy.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:51 PM
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64. Doesn't sound right....
and just what everyone wants to do...tell someone your cc # over the phone, when the call is being recorded....uh huh...NOT!! wb
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:03 PM
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65. I doubt either campaign is involved in scamming people
but that doesn't mean that a person who works for a campaign or someone who has nothng at all to do with politics couldn't set up a scam to get peoples credit card information.

Its in the Obama campaign's interest to know about it and let them deal with it- if its happening to more than one person they can report it to the police right away.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. No one with the Obama campaign would tell us not to donate online.
But to donate by phone only. So I am sure it was a scam.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #68
72. They didn't say that to me because I said
I wasn't going to donate today. But it didn't feel like a real call. I bet some people will be sucked in by it.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #68
73. I agree completely.
You should inform their campaign. It's hard to tell how many people may be taken in by this.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:32 PM
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69. I just got one too!
The man was very nice, and said that they were looking ahead to the other primaries remaining and they were hoping I could help out.

I politely told him I wasn't interested in donating to any candidate at this time.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:40 PM
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70. There was someone in California..
that was running a fund-raising thing for Obama, but..he wasn't affiliated with the campaign. I don't recall if any of the money went to Obama or not, but it was one of those donor beware stories.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:44 PM
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71. It's a legal obligation they do it to make sure canvassers are being polite...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:48 PM by barack the house
If a campaigner has not been courteous they will have audio evidence. They say they are recording so you are legally aware and have the option to end the call. So really, it is not meant as rude.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. that doesn't explain...
why he was told not to donate online because it was "unsafe".
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #71
75. Well in this culture where we are losing the right to privacy-
where we don't know who is listening to our phone calls or reading our email- its a red flag.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:52 PM
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76. Donating online is pretty much safe from a reliable site and one that shows security lock at the
bottom.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:59 PM
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77. K&R
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:02 PM
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78. and if you have EVER filled out info at his sites...he holds the right to SELL iT!
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