consider this an official Obama site?

[wrando]

I read the post written by sparkly.

I agree with some of the sentiments of the post. This is a pro Obama web site and largely anti Hillary site as well, but not officially.

The officials at DU pretty much stay out of it and let the sentiment of democracy take it's course.

I'm a Hillary supporter and have never been told what I could or could not post by the officials.

If I post a pro Hillary article or an article that says something negative about Obama, I know what to expect.

The point is it's my choice to subject myself to abuse and to occasionally dish it out.

The voices here are free and the opinions unedited.

What more can you ask for?

bill from ct

[leftofcool]

1. I have no problem with this new Obama Underground either

Most days it is just a way to amuse myself

[chascarrillo]

25. Last I check, your anti-Obama smears are still allowed here, so I don't know why you're whining.

[Texas Hill Country]

31. well, thank you for allowing us to critique your favored candidate....

[chascarrillo]

37. Thank the moderators for running a balanced site, and stop complaining.

It's really unbecoming.

[NJmaverick]

2. My free opinion is that those still supporting Hillary are hurting the Democratic party and helping

the repukes

[leftofcool]

3. That would be 46% of Dems across the nation

[NJmaverick]

4. and your point? 62% of adults and 34% of children are overweight or obese

does that mean they are not hurting their health?

[Terran]

5. This is a neutral forum for Dems and progressives

If you know several hundred HRC supporters, invite them to come post at DU--then perhaps you will be happier with what you read here. But please do not call DU an "Obama site". It isn't, and it's about much more than these primaries.

[wrando]

10. please read the post

I specifically did NOT call DU an official Obama site.

I just point out that a free democratically run DU is pro Obama by a vast majority.

I further said that that was not a bad deal.

bill from ct

[Terran]

17. I did

"This is a pro Obama web site". A deliberate distortion. A majority of the people here who choose to discuss the primaries are pro-Obama. The "site" is a neutral place for that discussion, as well as a hundred other topics. I see your post as a subtle form of disparagement, because you're refusing to characterize DU accurately.

[wrando]

22. how do you see the world

there is no distortion deliberate or other wise in my post

I specifically said "not Officially" when referring to DU

I also said that this becoming a pro Obama site was a product of free thinking and democracy

you should be proud of that

bill from ct

[msongs]

15. there are NO progressives running for prez at this time only center-right imperialists nt

[Terran]

21. misses the point

You're right in that there are no progressives running for president. My point is that progressives are a welcome element at DU. Your comment doesn't really have any bearing.

[patrice]

6. That's my perception bill. You pretty much get what you ask for around here and if

some poor benighted soul (more likely) or some freeping troll (less likely) attacks and abuses you, that CAN be defused by how you respond to it - not only defused but turned to you and your candidate's advantage

IF

that IS one's highest priority, which many times it isn't, because some folk are more concerned about dishing out punishment and revenge than they are interested in DISCOVERING truth through collaboration. God forgive them and keep the rest of us on the path.

:hi:

[wrando]

11. thanks

you said it well

bill from ct

[NorthCarolina]

7. My guess is that since Obama is ahead largely because

he has more supporters (a good indicator of WHY someone is "ahead"), I have no reason to doubt that this greater level of support would also be reflected here on DU. I don't believe DU is an "official Obama site", it is just reflective of the actual national support levels for each of the candidates.

[wrando]

12. not by a long shot

popular opinion in this country has this race very tight

Obama support at DU is overwhelming

that is hard to dispute or criticize

bill from ct

[scheming daemons]

41. Obama's demographics tend to be more "Internet Savvy"......

Educated people make more money and tend to utilize the internet more than uneducated people.


Hillary's base is LARGELY made up of less educated and poor whites. These tend to be TV-watchers more than Internet users.


DU is a site that one would expect greater Obama support than the general public as a whole.


People who think that getting $30 back over the next three months is a good idea tend to not be able to afford high-speed internet service or a good computer.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

8. No, it's not an official Obama site

But it will be, after the convention.

:hi:

[wrando]

13. more than likely

bill from ct

[JimGinPA]

9. As An Obama Supporter I Have No Problem With Pro-Hillary Threads Or Issue Driven Arguments...

For example, Bigtree posts campaign stop threads on both candidates and I often REC the Hillary threads. However many Hillary supporters post pure bullshit threads using outlier polls or citing RW media with anti-Obama articles that I take exception to. Also, it appears many of the "disrupters" who come here argue on Hillary's behalf.

[wrando]

16. not all

Not everyone that supports Hillary should be considered a disrupter.

Disrupters come in all stripes.

bill from ct

[JimGinPA]

19. That's Not What I Said...

I'll try to clarify, most of the trolls here lately have promoted Hillary. They have been TS'd fairly quickly but return almost daily.

[wrando]

24. trolls

I've been called a troll here many times, I'm not sure of the exact meaning of troll as it's used here, but I don't post unless I feel strongly about something, and I think I can back it up with fact, or strong opinion

bill from ct

[JimGinPA]

26. Well, If You Can't Spot The Asshole At A Family Reunion...

It might be you.

[wrando]

27. witty but

I'd love to hear that said to my face

you're a punk in every sense of the word

bill from ct

[JimGinPA]

30. Keyboard "Warriors" Don't Intimidate Me...

And I responded to your OP honestly. You chose to make it a flame fest. I guarantee you wouldn't call me a punk to my face, or if you did you'd wish you hadn't.

[wrando]

33. let's make it happen

YOU PUNK!

bill from ct

[nxylas]

14. You've answered your own question

If, as you say, "the officials at DU pretty much stay out of it and let the sentiment of democracy take it's course", then it can't be considered an official Obama site, merely a site where the majority of members prefer Obama. Actually, it's amazing that the admins are as neutral as they are, given the origins of this site as a forum for the progressive wing of the party who were outraged at the theft of the 2000 election and the unwillingness of centrist Dems (like the Clintons) to fight against it. Perhaps they feel unable to take sides in what has been reduced to a battle between the most right-wing and the second most right-wing Democratic presidential candidate.

[wrando]

18. ?

My post was not a question, but a statement of support, as a Hillary supporter, for the officials at DU.

bill from ct

[nxylas]

20. Well, it had a question mark at the end

I obviously misunderstood. Sorry.

[wrando]

28. thank you

bill from ct

[Hepburn]

23. If this was the intent of your post...

...then why share it with everyone? The Admins do have email and PMs. Suggestion: Use it and don't whine to everyone that you do not like the fact that more of us chose Obama over Hillary.

Sheesh...:eyes:

[wrando]

29. how thick are you?

there was and is no whining

I was responding to an earlier post by sparkly

I was and am celebrating DU, there was no complaint

I said that this is now an Obama site, and made that way democratically, straight from the members

with responses like I've gotten to this post I'm very concerned with some here to understand english

bill from ct

[Hepburn]

32. How thick are you?

What idiot responds to someone's post by having to start a new thread and including the Admins ~~ and just to whine that the Hillybots think this is an Obama site.

Grow the fuck up, OK?

[wrando]

34. whining

you are a GD zombie

I personally wave the white flag, no whining involved, admit that Obama's people have won this site fair and square

and you respond with this crap

what the hell is wrong with you

bill from ct

[Lady-Damai]

35. Wanna jump ship? Come.....

:hug:

[wrando]

36. please explain

bill from ct

[annie1]

38. yes, this is an obama site.

[rug]

39. Geez, I would hope Obama could do better than GDP.

[FlaGranny]

40. This place has really always

been populated by the left/progressive wing of the the Democratic party. There has been less and less enthusiasm for the Clintons over the years around here.