OBAMA WINS GUAM! OGUAMA!

[WeDidIt]

Obama 2264
Clinton 2257

Amazingly close!

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080504/NEWS01/80504018

[futureliveshere]

1. Yup, 2 each delegates. in a state that was supposedly hugely pro-Clinton

:woohoo:

[StevieM]

13. Please, that's just spin. Obama grew up in the Pacific and dominates the caucuses. (eom)

[Lady-Damai]

22. "A win is a win." n/t

[Cheap_Trick]

60. no, a "win is a win" only IF Hillary wins

Otherwise, it doesn't count. Didn't you get the Talking Points Memo?

[grantcart]

31. yeah all islanders are the same lol oh they were neighbors 3000 miles apart

[Forkboy]

36. LOL....speaking of spin.

:crazy:

[WeDidIt]

38. In this Caucus, people went into voting booths.

PEople don't understand the difference between a caucus and a primary.

Caucuses are run exclusively by the party.

Primaries are run by state or commonwealth governments.

That's the only difference. The rules of each are set by the organizer.

[Kittycat]

45. Psst.. Guam is no where near Hawaii.

That's more than saying someone from California is from New York :crazy
They are more than 3800 miles apart ;)

[cali]

47. ugh. think about what what you're saying before you type.

[helderheid]

61. uh, no. This is YOUR spin.

[featherman]

2. Wow... Dededo went BIG for Clinton

Larger margin than I thought possible considering the rest of the vote. Hmmmm...
Oh well.... a win's a win.

[Algorem]

3. what's a guam anyway?didn't we have to blow them up in world war 2?

[jefferson_dem]

4. Seven votes! Shall we round that up to a "double-digit" vote victory for the Good Guy?

:applause:

[Adelante]

6. Too funny

But you know what she says, "A win is a win." :)

[sunonmars]

5. is that all, lol, thats practically statistically a draw.

I thought he was supposed to walk it.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Can you link to that statement made by anyone other than the media whores....

since yesterday......?

Thanks!

[datopbanana]

8. I don't know where you people are getting that.

1 guy that Hawaii and Guam were neighbors. You too?

[me b zola]

32. Hawaii is as far from Guam as it is from California

[datopbanana]

40. This guy thinks that makes them neighbors

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5799157&mesg_id=5799157

[WeDidIt]

12. Everything I saw had Clinton winning hands down

Some even suggested it would be a 3-1 split in delegates in Clinton's favor.

[dbmk]

48. Noone had any clue as to who would walk it

And apparently for good reason.

But with a 7 digit win like this, its hardly a draw.

[Windy]

9. Thats because at the last minute she said she would work to make Guam a state... panderer in chief!

She's a trip.

[Divernan]

44. So has she promised Puerto Rico that? And what about the District of Columbia?

[4themind]

52. I'm sure a set up for puerto rico is on the way

this guam pander can be used as precedent for it. As far as offering it in D.C. ,perhaps, she realizes that it people are close enough to actually make noise about that if she gets into office.

[writes3000]

10. Fantastic. And this helps Obama with the Guam SDs! n/t

[Aloha Spirit]

46. Yep, one of the SD's promised his vote to the popular vote winner.

[Secret_Society]

11. Thats nuts!

I guess the Obama campaign prediction of 55/45 was little off.

[dbmk]

49. Easy to be with only 4521 voters

And I am pretty sure they knew what was 99% guesstimated. In the end it comes out to the same delegatewise, which is the important number.

[writes3000]

14. How many primary/caucus wins is this for Obama? n/t

[WeDidIt]

16. 31 out of 46 n/t

[writes3000]

20. Wow, he's won 67% of the races so far. Pretty impressive...

for a guy with almost no name recognition at the start of the campaign.

[quantass]

29. IMPRESSIVE!

[Cha]

35. Yeah, but look who he's running against..

the panderer from hell:evilgrin:

[datopbanana]

15. Will WOLFSON demand RECOUNT?

[sunonmars]

17. I'm finding this hilarious considering the effort Obama put in Guam, 7 votes ROFL.

OBAMA ran TV ads, had paid staff, had a whole organization there. He was MASSIVELY ahead in the polls. Hillary did not even compete.

[thewiseguy]

21. and he did not have to pander to the voters of Guam!

[featherman]

26. No polls and Clinton competed just as hard. She had been favored for months

But... hey... make up whatever you want. I happen to know about Guam personally

[Muttocracy]

28. Obama can afford to compete anywhere; Clinton can't except for her vote promise. nt

[democrattotheend]

51. What polls? I never saw any polls from Guam.

I remember people wondering which way it would go and nobody knew.

[Arrowhead2k1]

18. Hey,

a win is a win right? :)

[quantass]

57. +1

[rocktivity]

19. .

rocknation

[featherman]

23. Just a reminder that the pro-Obama slate for chair/vice-chair also won

which was likely the more important vote today. This adds two SD's that would have been Clinton's had her slate won.

I think there's a total of 8 (16 "half votes") delegates coming out of Guam... not sure about where two of them come from but it looks like 4-2 for Obama now.

[writes3000]

27. And that's the key, right there. Fantastic> +2 for Obama from Guam. n/t

[4_Legs_Good]

24. That is too freaking funny! As goes Guam...

Just like MO, I think these are showing us that it's going to go down to the wire with Obama pulling it out by a hair...

And then destroying McCain in the General.

David

[Aloha Spirit]

37. Oh man. This means Obama is gonna walk away with 2028 delegates to Hillary's 2020?

[4_Legs_Good]

56. Yeah, that's probably about right

Particularly if she wins Indiana...

David

[Muttocracy]

25. 0.15% difference!

[Jed Dilligan]

30. Weird: the article says "7 point difference" but it was

actually just seven votes. Wow. Talk about a photo finish!

[dbmk]

50. We will call that a 7 digit win, thank you very much.

[Jed Dilligan]

58. Awesome.

[psychopomp]

33. Congrats to the Obama campaign

It is good to see the people of Guam have their day in the sun...on second thought, everyday is a day in the sun for Guamanians!

[oldgrowth]

34. Obama unofficially wins Guam caucus with 50.1% of the vote,link

Note: these are unofficial, uncertified results as tabulated by the Democratic Party of Guam. The DPG also noted a high number of spoiled ballots in Dededo.

http://www.kuam.com/news/27694.aspx

[FrenchieCat]

39. Watch the media whores have selective memory and attempt to

find this close race, a Hillary win.......as if Obama had been predicted to win because he's from Hawaii.

Watch them do this even though Guam is not close to Hawaii, and had been predicted for Hillary for some time.

That's why they suck! Cause they can turn anything into something else.

[AlinPA]

43. Like the baseball umpire: "Some pitches are balls, come pitches are strikes. They ain't

anything till I call them".

[DuaneBidoux]

41. Obama wins whenever the gap does not get smaller. period.

The finish line draws ever closer, and maintaining equal distance behind the leader as one closes on the finish line is never a victory for the second place person.

[Buzz Clik]

42. That's awesome! Rounding up, Hillary wins by 10 points!!! woohoo!!

[chknltl]

53. 4521 votes, so how did HC pick up 200 votes in final 5%?

At the 95% mark Sen. Obama was ahead by about 200 votes. At the 100% mark he is ahead by 7 votes.
Not a tinfoily moment, (OK maybe a little one) but does anyone know how that happened??? A 200(ish)votes swing that late with such a small number of voters-4521, seems odd to me. Did the final 5% returns come in from a town that was 99% for Senator Clinton or something? (Was the Diebold machine the last thing counted???)

[Aloha Spirit]

54. The 95% referred to 95% of districts, as in, 20 out of 21 districts, so the remaining 5%

was a larger percent of the overall vote!
She got 61% in the last district I think.

[chknltl]

59. Now there's to be a recount!

Regardless of districts, he was ahead by 200 or so votes when 95% of the 'districts' were in. Somehow in that last district or the last 5% of the districts she picked up an additional 200 votes and Sen. Obama perhaps picked up less than 10. I am no statistician but this seems a bit odd to me GIVEN the few votes in total available for Guam. Now they are calling for a recount. I understand this is SOP when things are THIS close but you can color me with tin-foil if somehow Senator Clinton ends up the winner of Guam by Tuesday or earlier.

ON EDIT!!!: Found out that Senator Clinton DID do a remarkable come from behind in the last precinct "Dededo" the largest of the precincts:

Guam Caucus Results - 4 pledged delegates at stake

Obama started out with a modest lead with 53%. His lead began to diminish as the last 10% of the vote was counted. Final Obama 50.1% to Clinton 49.9%

8:50 a.m. — When all of the ballots were finally counted -- a process that lasted through the night until well after the sun was up -- Sen. Barack Obama had the most votes from Guam Democrats in the party’s caucus held yesterday.

Obama finished with 2,264 votes to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s 2,257 votes – a 7-point difference. Obama never trailed from the first vote count on.

Obama won 14 of 21 districts. Most districts that were won by Clinton were by small margins.

Obama got 37 votes in Ordot, 19 in Maina, 151 in Inarajan, 46 in Asan, 55 in Chalan Pago, 87 in Santa Rita, 102 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 28 in Hagåtña, 158 in Barrigada, 36 in Merizo, 49 in Piti, 131 in Sinajana, 108 in Agana Heights, 194 in Mangilao 192 in Tamuning, 27 in Umatac, 76 in Talofofo, 224 in Yigo, 104 in Yona, 127 in Agat and 313 in Dededo for a total of 2,264 votes.

Sen. Hillary Clinton took 18 votes in Ordot, 22 in Maina, 87 in Inarajan, 33 in Asan, 87 in Chalan Pago, 73 in Santa Rita, 81 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 29 votes in Hagåtña, 166 in Barrigada, 33 in Merizo, 51 in Piti, 89 in Sinajana, 105 in Agana Heights, 155 in Mangilao, 193 in Tamuning, 24 in Umatac, 52 in Talofofo, 211 in Yigo, 98 in Yona, 141 in Agat and 509 in Dededo for a total of 2,257 votes.

Source: guampdn.com via politisite

Even the Kentucky Derby wasn't this close. In the strangest of circumstances that could only bring about the closest of races, Hillary Clinton finished with 49.9% of the vote in the Guam Democratic Caucus, just 7 votes shy of Barack Obama's 50.1%. While Obama led for the vast majority of the night's tallying, Clinton needed a strong finish in Dededo, Guam's most populous village. And she did.


Source: kuam.com via politisite

[psychopomp]

55. kick

:kick:

[TheDonkey]

62. hehe oguama!