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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:52 PM
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So, will Keith O raise the innuendo about the Kantor stuff against Obama
campaign as he did against the Clinton camp with accusations that were later proven to be untrue?
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:53 PM
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1. which accusation were those?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:58 PM
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2. That's what I wonder too
:shrug:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:41 AM
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11. Canada-gate and BO's lies...
...how quickly we forget.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:22 AM
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16. Oh, No ... I didn't forget...
you mean this fiasco?

Wednesday, March 5: The Canadian Press news agency reports that the whole controversy originated with a remark to several journalists by the prime minister's chief of staff, Ian Brodie. He allegedly said that a representative of the Clinton campaign had called the Canadian embassy in D.C. to say her anti-NAFTA comments shouldn't be taken at face value.
The Canadian Press: "Quite a few people heard it," said one source in the room. "He said someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. ... That someone called us and told us not to worry."
No details of the alleged Clinton contact were given, and while the anonymous source said several people heard the comment, no one else was quoted in the story.

Earlier, Canadian Prime Minister Harper announced that he had asked an internal security team to begin finding the source of the leaked memo mentioning Goolsbee’s visit.

Source: Alexander Panetta, "'NAFTAgate' began with remark from Harper's chief of staff," The Canadian Press 5 March 2008.



AND I wouldn't forget because this--combined with the falsehood that Hillary was secretly against NAFTA -- is a big reason she won in Ohio.
on LIES. and Ohio is the 2nd hardest hit state losing manufacturing jobs, largely because of NAFTA.

and I'm not saying Obama's campaign was above board when they denied contacting the canadian gov't or journalists...


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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:41 AM
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3. Of course not. Being for Obama means never having to say 'fair play.'
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 03:07 AM
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4. Yep. The rules only apply if you're Hillary (eom)
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 03:40 AM
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6. Whatev
You got some kind of quote where Obama took this and ran with it, personally smearing Hillary?

Didn't think so.

Obama's not responsible for something either some lone supporter or Karl Rove did.

Unless you can prove otherwise....

Didn't think so.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:19 PM
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17. Memories...
December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html


Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.


Clinton Co-Chair Resigns Over Obama Drug Remark
By JAKE TAPPER
Dec. 13, 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3992371&page=1
Bill Shaheen, the Clinton campaign's New Hampshire co-chair, stepped down Thursday one day after publicly raising the issue of the youthful drug use of her chief opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois

Shaheen, the husband of a former New Hampshire governor and an influential Democrat, was a constant presence by Clinton's side whenever she campaigned in the Granite State, where recent polls have her and Obama in a dead heat for first in that first-in-the-nation primary state.

Hours after the Wednesday release of a CNN/WMUR poll showing Obama in a statistical tie with Clinton for the first time among New Hampshire Democratic voters, Shaheen told The Washington Post that should Obama get the nomination, "one of the things Republicans are certainly going to jump on is his drug use."

Shaheen said Obama having been so open -- as opposed to then-Gov. George W. Bush, who refused to detail his past drug use during his 2000 presidential campaign -- will "open the door to further queries on the matter.
---------------------------------------
On Sunday, a second Clinton staffer -- Linda Olson, an Iowa County volunteer coordinator, who followed Jones County coordinator Judy Rose -- was asked to resign after reporters discovered she had forwarded an e-mail repeating the scurrilous allegation that Obama, a member of the United Curch of Christ, is a Muslim plant.



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs


Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)


http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-

clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."

Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proudmDemocrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.


Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34



Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 03:15 AM
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5. Ummm... KO is a journalist...
and part of being a journalist is not spouting complete falsehoods that have absolutely no basis in reality. Just because you hate that your candidate is a weasely person doesn't mean you have to take it out on the rest of us.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:00 AM
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9. KO is no journalist
that i could respect. He is a cheap trick ranter TV personality.

Nor is Colbert. (I love Colbert - but he is not a journalist.)
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:42 AM
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12. hahahaha
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:27 AM
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7. do you have some kind of PROOF
a link or ANYTHING other than your blind hatred of Obama that ties him to the Kantor video? Didn't think so.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:40 AM
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8. Proof? On GD-P?
If proof -- or even evidence -- was a requirement for posting here on GD-P, three-quarters of all the posts would be deleted.

Heck, I've asked for evidence of High Crimes, Misdemeanors, and Worst Outrages Ever dozens of times. Twice I've gotten substantive replies, each from campaign oppo research memos -- excepting four or five links from ProSense who cited stuff from ... ProSense.

Team Clinton has been tied to the Wright case since "Day One" -- again, no evidence. Also, to Somali-wear-gate. To Madrassagate. To Cigarettegate. In all of these cases, the original crap has been demonstrated to have originated with the wingnut Right.

You are spot-on about the blind hatred, but it's a universal thing around here. Obama supporters are not immune. There is way too much of it, blind or otherwise.

--p!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:40 AM
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10. There was NO MENTION AT ALL of it on his program. You owe Keith an apology.
A big one.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:44 AM
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13. maybe after he apologize for erroneously linking Hillary to "passportgate"
the night he covered it for a FULL HOUR (until the next day when it was discovered her passport file was violated too, and then he stopped caring about the story and dropped it completely.)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:16 AM
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14. So what did your buddies on Fox report? NT
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:20 AM
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15. There is a youtube video of Hillary proven untrue. Keith should apologize
:crazy:
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