DNC coffers dry amid flood of Dem cash

[saracat]

And they are not getting a nickel from me after the bias and incompetency shown during these primaries! I guess Dean isn't the great "fundraiser" after all. LOL!




DNC coffers dry amid flood of Dem cash



In an election year marked by jaw-dropping Democratic fundraising, one key political player isn’t so flush: The Democratic National Committee.

Despite record hauls by Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the DNC has raised less than half the amount taken in by the Republican National Committee.

According to the latest Federal Election Commission reports filed through the end of March, the RNC had $31 million in cash on hand while the DNC had only $5.3 million. The RNC has raised $36.5 million this year while the DNC has raised $17.7 million.

More at politico

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10031.html

[leftofcool]

1. They have been broke for some time

I get at least 5 emails a week begging for money. Not a dime from me either.

[NightWatcher]

2. I'm beginning to think that Obama should have run as an Independent

I am SO over the traditional two party system

the 'say anythings' vs the 'do anythings'

[Horse with no Name]

93. His ideals are certainly a hybrid of Democratic and Republican ideals

and had he run indy...I probably would have given him a second glance.
The way I see it though...he wants to hand out what I consider core Democratic values as party favors for the republicans to destroy at will.
I have a problem with that.
However...as an INDY candidate...I certainly would have taken that into consideration.

[LisaM]

My mother lives in Michigan

She says that every time they ask her for money, she writes a note saying, "if you don't want my vote, why do you want my money?" And she uses their postage to send it back.

What this says to me, too, is that many Obama supporters do not really identify with the Democratic party per se.

[susankh4]

25. If Obama has so much money....

why doesn't he help 'em out?

The Clintons have been raising money for the DNC for years....

[democrattotheend]

30. I think Obama's campaign signed a joint fundraising agreement with the DNC a few weeks ago

Don't remember the details.

[Exilednight]

51. The Clintons' have been raising money for the DLC, not the DNC. n/t

[saracat]

66. BS. Hillary raised "tons" for the DNC and her surrogates still are.

I haven't noticed any of Baracks folks doing so but them it is alweays just about Barack!

[redsoxrudy]

90. Actually Obama has started a joint fund raising effort with the DNC.

This program bundles money both to the candidate and the DNC. DNC has asked HRC to do the same and the last time I checked they still haven't responded. Bigger donations usually start coming into the National Committees once a nominee has emerged. Also the DNC also pumped a good amount of money into the race to take Hastert's seat, which one could take issue with, but I think was a good move.

[susankh4]

70. Both, actually.

But how would you know?

[Exilednight]

71. I've worked DNC fundraisers in New York. I pay attention to who shows up and who doesn't. n/t

[susankh4]

72. Funny about all the DNC support, huh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5789135

[Exilednight]

73. Take a look at the names on that list, then look at the DLC roster. n/t

[susankh4]

77. Well, somebody had better take some "Leadership"

before the party runs off the left cliff ... yet again.

[shaniqua6392]

79. delete..

oops.

[shaniqua6392]

80. I do the same thing!!!

I actually was giving monthly donations and I stopped completely. If they do not want my vote, they will never get a dime from me again.

[Araxen]

3. Not a dime from me either

Till they reign in Hillary and her scorched earth campaign. They do nothing to stop her from ruining the party.

[goclark]

95. I used their return envelope

Wrote --- Not a dime or my time until there is fairness in our party.

[SoCalDem]

4. Until the primaries are over, people are donating to "their person"

Of course the eventual candidate will share their money with downticket races.. Obama has already done this when he helped regain Denny hastert's seat for us..

Of course if HRC "wins", the DNC will get bupkus from her, since she's broke, and all the people who donated to Obama, will put their checkbooks and Debit cards away...permanently..

He would have plenty to settle up with all his debts, and have a tidy sum in reserve to help the people who helped him and still have plenty for a re-election bid for himself someday..


Her slimy politics will have repercussions for her.."win" or lose. .. If she somehow managed to lose a little gracefully (probably impossible by now), he would "help" her get her vendors paid..

[saracat]

5. So no credit at all for all the campaigns Hillary donated to earlier?

And I really don't think Hillary needs the helpful condecension of Dean.

[susankh4]

19. Dean killed the Clinton Cash Cow and now his chickens...

are coming home to roost.

Bok... bok.... bok....

[truebrit71]

22. People are spending their cash on their candidates right now...as soon as Obama gets the nod...

..the DNC will see it pick up again...

[susankh4]

27. Maybe.

Maybe not.

[democrattotheend]

35. I'm kind of torn

I've noticed that a lot of the big money donors seem to be Clinton supporters and I have read about them threatening to withhold money if she is not the nominee or if Michigan and Florida are not counted the way they would like. I welcome money from all sources, but I kind of like the idea of the party not being as beholden to these big donors anymore. I remember reading that the DCCC got a spike in donations when the Clinton donors threatened Pelosi, and I hope the netroots will do the same for the DNC. We've been able to raise quite a bit for Obama and for candidates who have taken hits for endorsing him, so if we put it on the radar screen we can probably raise some money for the DNC. Hopefully this thread and other articles about the DNC's cash woes will help.

Please note, my objection to the big donors is not that they support Clinton. I just like the idea of the DNC being less beholden to big fatcats, period.

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[susankh4]

44. Don't call me "fake" dem

I have supported the party for 32 years. And I have had it.

Alerting now... for accusing me of being from F.R.

[Celebration]

53. Are we supposed to say when we alert? n/t

[Tesha]

85. No, it's explicitly prohibited in the rules. (NT)

[lojasmo]

87. Rules don't apply to Clinton and her supporters. EOM

[Tesha]

84. Quite frankly, it was the fact that a lot of my money would go to DLC Bozos...

...that has kept me from donating anything to the national
campaigns (DNC, DSCC, DCCC) for the past decade or so.
Instead, I give to individual candidates I believe in.

Tesha

P.S. (In 2000, this included Senatorial candidate Hillary
Clinton, but no longer.)

[rodeodance]

12. Dean is a weak Chair and should be replaced.

[Tesha]

92. Maybe we can entice Mel Martinez to take the job, ehh? (NT)

[LisaM]

32. Clinton has raised a lot of money for a lot of candidates for YEARS

Including Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, who are now being asked by citizens of Wahington state to turn their back on her.

In fact, she raised money for Obama's senatorial campaign.

[susankh4]

55. Indeed she did.

WTF are they thinking?

This is disgusting. She works her whole life for the DNC only to be stabbed in the back?

[LisaM]

56. How would you like to be Maria Cantwell?

She was elected largely BECAUSE of Hillary's tireless campaigning and fundraising on her behalf. Now, I've seen people right here at DU shopping a script to flood her office with calls and emails demanding that she cast her SD vote for Obama. It's sickening.

[Hawkowl]

97. Can'twell is a corporate tool

Her office is rude and arrogant and she is a weather vane for corporate interests. A pox on her.

[PoliticalAmazon]

6. I quit donating to DNC years ago. They don't represent us voters anymore....

...and they continue to use failing strategies, trying to make the Dem Party into the DLC, while ignoring their base supporters.

I urge everyone to give to groups (ACLU, etc.) or candidtes, but not to the DNC.

I guess I'm not the only one who is fed up with the DNC ignoring us for the last 10 years.

The DNC should try to get money from the Republican voters. After all, the DNC has been courting Republican voters for the last 10 years.

[LSK]

11. you do realize the DLC tried to keep Howard Dean from taking over the DNC

right?

[democrattotheend]

37. I think that was true before Dean took over

A lot less so now. I have a coworker who worked directly with Dean at the DNC and he said Dean really transformed the DNC and made it much more bottom-up and grassroots oriented.

[rodeodance]

7. I sent back their letter just this week telling them I will donate when they

stop being biased toward obama!

[K Gardner]

13. How DARE they lean toward the candidate with the most DELEGATES ! Its an outrage.. why, forget

all the millions of dollars, all the new voters, all the states won, all the delegates.. forget the RULES !~

How dare they not bow to the egotistical arrogance of the "inevitable" Hillary and her deluded supporters !

Screw the DNC ! Which is exactly what Hillary and supporters like you and the OP, are doing.

[Auntie Bush]

54. I should have sent mine back too...but unfortunately I just tore it up!

And uttered some exploitive under my breath. I used to love Dean but no more. I blame him for the WI and FL debacle...what did he think would happen? He should have fined them!

[Romulox]

8. Pretty hard for the DNC to solicit money in Michigan. I hope the people of Iowa have deep pockets!

:rofl:

[susankh4]

26. Me too.

They seem to think their caucuses count for more than any of our votes....

Let Iowa pay Dean for their priveleged status.

[truebrit71]

41. Yeah because the DNC moved the primary date that ...no wait...the MI Dems moved it...

...even though they'd been told NOT to by the DNC...but it's the DNC's fault if they stick to their words...

Wow....I don't think fucked-up logic like that works even in freeper-ville...???

[anigbrowl]

9. How much did the RNC take in before the primary was over?

What a dumb argument.

[rodeodance]

10. REC

[Indenturedebtor]

14. Yes the unbelievable bias for HRC is disgusting

They should have forced her out months ago when it became a near mathematical impossibility. Also more should be speaking out about her disgusting tactics that hurt the party and our nominee. I'm pretty upset about it as well.

But when the SD's who announced for HRC through their initial bias renounce her within the next couple of weeks I'm quite certain that the DNC will get plenty of money.

[juajen]

91. Why don't you read up on party history.

Ted Kennedy went all the way to the convention with a lot less votes and delegates than Hillary has, as did plenty of other male candidates. This is beginning to look like one big cluster-fuck against the first viable female candidate in the history of the party.

I see a lot of Hillary bias and disrespect on this board. It shames me, as it should shame all of you. She was a gracious and brilliant First Lady for this country for eight years. She was paid not one nickel for the work she did tirelessly. She could not have foreseen the scandal that would rock her husband's Presidency, but she handled it with fortitude and grace, and did not let our country down for one minute. So, let me see, what exactly do you have against her?

Look instead at the tremendous bias against women, and then, if you can, imagine the dem party without legions of women who have supported the party and been the party's workhorses religiously for decades.

Yes, many of us support Hillary. In her, we see ourselves. Many of us have worked all our loves for the enrichment of men. We do not get paid for it, it's just expected, you know, "Get thee behind me, little woman. and fetch my slippers while you're at it." In public service, as well as private industry, women are underpaid, undervalued and shat upon.

So, here comes a charming, brilliant woman who is well positioned to achieve the Presidency of the United States, and, OMG, the names ya'll call her are not to be believed. I know a lot of you are not true democrats but are here at this board to cause trouble; but, I expect the real dems on this board to stand up for fairness and democratic principles no matter who you support. For this Hillary supporter, fairness would go a long way, even if you do not support her.

[Tellurian]

15. yeah, Dean begging Obama to assist in some fund raising scheme for the DNC is pretty pathetic...

when they can behave as a functioning organization acting fairly with ALL the Dem candidates. I will consider it..Otherwise they can take a hike.

[susankh4]

16. I stopped donating to them as well.....

because of the continual calls for the Super Dels to decide ... without the input of FLA and MI.

If Hillary is forced out of this race, before all votes are counted.. they won't get a cent from me this cycle.

[Chulanowa]

65. FL and MI screwed themselves

And now they cry because their asses hurt.

[juajen]

89. This is idiotic! I am sick and tired of FL and MI voters being

accused. The voters had nothing to do with the decisions made by their State Party, Dem or Pug. Fining their state party was the way to go, not penalizing innocent voters who just did what they were supposed to do. Who can blame them if they refuse to support the party now? Both candidates will suffer if these votes are not counted, and, I mean, counted the way they were cast. Neither candidate can win the GE without MI and FL. I have relatives who live in FL and also, friends. The support for Hillary in Fl is huge. Obama and friends know this, hence the disenfranchisement of these democratic voters. How sick that so many of you who support Obama, are in favor of doing this to FL and MI just to get Obama elected. If you are so sure of his WIN, what are you afraid of?

I am sickened that actual democrats want to throw away honest dem votes just to ensure the election of their hero. Tell me, please, has Hillary tried to get any states that went overwhelmingly for obama to not count? Ya'll really need to look in a mirror. A year from now you will not recognize the "you" that went crazy over a man who stood for change, but never shared with us exactly how he would enact said change. You know, sorta like a snake oil salesman, "Trust me, you'll feel wonderful after taking this medicine, folks, you just gotta trust me."

[Bigleaf]

17. So it's not just Hillary's campaign whose coffers are dry. The DNC will get cash once Obama wins

the nomination.

[jeanruss]

18. impeachment

I think Nancy Pelosi's "impeachment os off the table" is the reason they are having difficulties. I know it's why I haven't given. The Democrats were given control in 2006 to stop the insane President and VP and they haven't even tried. Watching the phony democrats like Jay Rockefeller and the democratic love for Joe Lieberman doesn't help.

[KoKo]

20. That's why I haven't given, either. I gave and gave always marking check "Supporting Howard Dean"

But, I told a solicitor who called a couple weeks ago that I'd had enough....that I was angry that we had two candidates who both have electability problems (don't yell...both do) and that I supported Howard Dean but I'd had it with Congress! He pointed out to me that the DNC needs the money to support candidates and I said I would give to the candidates running in my state who were Dems...but I'd had it with the party...and then I said..."I know you are just doing your job...so sorry to chew your ear off with my complaints." He replied "It's okay...I hear what you said all the time." :-(

[truebrit71]

24. That should have impacted the DCCC not the DNC so much...I know I have told the DCCC to go pound...

...sand when they have called asking for $$$...

I give a little to the DNC but plan to give more once Hillary has been defeated...

[JVS]

21. We'd better nominate someone who knows how to raise money and manage it.

GOBAMA

[susankh4]

29. The DNC has always padded it's pockets with Clinton cash....

and now... oh well.... Dean has angered her supporters....

Hope Obama is as good at supporting the DNC as the Clintons have been.....

Poor Howard :nopity:

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[nsd]

23. As soon as the nomination is settled, that'll change quickly.

The primary contest is just sucking up all the money.

[MindMatter]

49. Exactly.

I plan to give the max amount. But they don't get a penny from me until they clean up this mess they have allowed to fester.

There are a million people like me who have donated to Obama. And most of us have the means to give a lot more. We'll be happy to send it where it is needed, wither to the Obama campaign or to the DNC. But they have to take care of one small item of business first.

[dionysus]

28. have fun sabotaging the party cause edwards couldn't campaign his way out of a wet paper bag...

[WeDidIt]

31. so long as there is any possibility Hillary will be the nominee

I won't give money to the DNC.

I cannot in good conscience donate money to any organization that might aid Hillary Clinton in being elected president. The closest I'll come will be a vote against the Republican in November should she be nominated, though my nose would be tightly clamped.

Also, should anybody tear down Hillary in my presence, I would be incapable of doing anything other than agreeing with them.

[democrattotheend]

33. Part of me feels the same way, but I give to support Dean

I don't want to give the Clinton folks an excuse to oust him as chairman.

[WeDidIt]

42. Dean has already said, he won't seek re-election to teh post

So when it's time to choose another DNC Chairman, it definitely won't be Dean.

Which is another reason I stopped giving to the DNC when this primary season started.

[MoonRiver]

34. Dean gets ZERO from my husband and I.

We send him back a letter telling him that he will never receive another cent from us, each time he sends us a solicitation letter. Hilarious thing is that we send it back in a DNC postage paid return envelope! :rofl:

[truebrit71]

36. Wow...that's so clever and witty of you...to use up MORE of the DNC's money...

...:sarcasm:

Seriously, just HOW fucking stupid do you have to be NOT to see how that hurts the ENTIRE party?

:eyes:

[MoonRiver]

52. Do you think they'll get a clue and stop sending us this crap?

I'm not going to support the DNC when it disenfranchises millions of voters. I will definitely give to individual Democratic candidates, however.

[truebrit71]

57. The basic problem here is that you (apparently) don't understand that the DNC has NOTdisenfranchised

...ANYONE...

The individual states dis-enfranchised themselves when they moved their primary dates...

That is the truth about what happened no matter HOW much spin you choose to put on it...

[MoonRiver]

63. WRONG.

There is NO WAY IN HELL that the individual voters in those states "disenfranchised" themselves. Party bosses did that to the electorate. Dean and his Hillary hating cohorts in the DNC used the local corrupt party bosses' acts as an excuse to make sure Hillary would lose the nomination.

Fine and/or fire the corrupt state party bosses. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES DISENFRANCHISE TOTALLY INNOCENT DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATES. That's the principle corrupt Dean should have used to handle this situation. Instead, he chose to DISENFRANCHISE THE TOTALLY INNOCENT DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATES OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. That is why the DNC has lost access to my family's considerable assets.

[rodeodance]

96. Wrong--the DNC has been biased toward Obama. That is WRONG

[dionysus]

38. you're bragging about sabotaging the party....

priceless....

:puke:

[MoonRiver]

50. We've given to Democrats we support big time.

We don't give to corrupt party bosses, e.g. Howard Dean.

[truebrit71]

58. How's that Hillary-aid taste?

:eyes:

"Corrupt party Boss"?

What a crock of ignorant shit that is...

[MoonRiver]

62. Your post displays your complete ignorance.

Thanks for informing.

[dionysus]

69. ROFL oh... my.. god....

[Larkspur]

40. I'm a Democracy Bond holder and support Dean's 50 State Stratgey

so I donate $10/month to the DNC. The DNC's money has been going to help rebuild the Dem Party at the state and local area. That's why the DNC coffers are low.

I'm angry at Obama because he insulted Democrats and liberals when he went on Faux News Sunday, so he won't be getting money from me. Hillary will NEVER get any money from me because she favors shipping my job to India.

[democrattotheend]

45. I have a Democracy Bond too

And I have given additional donations to the DNC throughout the year. I never donated to the DNC until Dean took over. There was no point...all McAuliffe cared about was raising money from fatcats.

I'm not as up in arms about what Obama said on Faux as a lot of bloggers, so I have no problem continuing to donate.

[Justitia]

67. Me too. $25 / mo, assorted donations thru yr - because of DEAN

When DEAN leaves the DNC, that money will go to DFA (who already gets a smaller monthly stipend from me too).

I also give to various other individual candidates and orgs.

[depakid]

46. Given the performance of Congress, this doesn't suprise me

[nichomachus]

48. They should call John "Mr. Electable" Kerry

He has about $15 million he scammed from voters -- me included -- in 2004 so he could "fight to make sure that every vote was counted." Ten minutes after the polls closed, he absconded with the money.

Let him give it to the DNC. I donated money I really didn't have, as I had been laid off and out of work for a year at the time.

[iamthebandfanman]

59. gosh, if hillary would just stop this race and admit defeat

maybe people would have extra money for the DNC.

lets not talk about fund raising for the national party while we have a long drawn out primary(thats uneccesary) eating into every democrats wallet.

want more money to come into the DNC?

tell hillary to accept her loss and move on.


p.s.

i just donated to the DNC right now.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

60. Instead of wasting time posting this crap, why don't you go raise some money for your Queen?

The DNC may be broke, but she's deep in debt.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

61. Obama's their man ,,, his supporters should throw some

cashola their way.

[goclark]

68. Sure would if Obama is the nominee,happily would give to the party

But if they change the rules in the middle of the game,that's it for me.

[Debi]

64. As soon as the primary is over the DNC will be flush for the General Election

The Clintons and their supporters laughed at Dean and his 50 state strategy (wanting him to NOT give any state party money during the 2006 contests) Instead Dean gave every state $$ and look what happened! (Here in Iowa David Loebsack and Bruce Braley were elected to the US Conress - both in seats that had been republican seats. Chet Culver beat Jim Nussle in the Governor's race by 100,000 votes and Democrats took over the Iowa House in both Chambers).

The only way for a Democrat to get elected President is the 50 state strategy and the Party will have enough money to run it. We'll see success not only in the Presidential race, but in Governor's races, Congressional races and Statehouse races thanks to Howard Dean.

Or we can got back to Terry McAwful's 17 state sell-out. The DNC will have cash on hand but no Democrat will win.

Hmmmm, which should we choose??? :eyes:

So go ahead, don't give the DNC money, give it to your local party/candidates. Even though you don't support the National Party - the National Party will be helping the candidates you support get elected.

Thank you Howard Dean!

[khaliljohnson]

74. Misleading

The DNC will get money once they join forces with Obama, thus getting a big part of the money donated by pro-Obama voters.

[barack the house]

75. Advertising costs though. Also only half of us will be contributing if you think of it.

All the Hillary supporters are less than happy with the DNC although if they are for winning they should be opening hearts and wallets to get our ads out there. DON'T FEAR DONATING. Ask Dean to monitor the donating system though just in case. The MCCain ads have had some impact if you look at McCain's latest clip front page. Tell them to keep some by for the convention too. They may feel pressured to just make ads .

[madrchsod]

76. the dnc is finished

the dnc is sucking the life out of the democratic party by using the failed dean 50 state policy. the leader in delegates and popular votes in the democratic party is a black man who is going to lose the election to a guy who has senior moments. the clear winner in the next election is hillary clinton who agrees with senior moment john on most of the issues to date. she has the most experience because she was the first lady for 8 years and a senator from a large state. although she`s losing the popular vote and delegate count she is clearly the winner in the general election because she is white and a woman....

the dnc is finished. it is time to turn the party over to winners- not the dnc candidates who have backed liberal to progressive democratic losers for years....


yes it is over

[last_texas_dem]

78. How is the 50 state strategy "failed"?

[ima_sinnic]

81. as long as they don't rein in Clinton, they will get zilch from me

she is now "running" for one reason and one reason only, to undermine and sabotage the campaign of a fellow Democrat. I sent Howard Dean, whom I like very much and campaigned for in 2004, a long letter with links to some threads on DU, asking him to really look at what she is doing to the party, and mentioned that I would not send any money to the DNC, only directly to Obama, as long as she was allowed to continue sabotaging and dividing the party. We're sick of dynasties, we're sick of the DLC corporate greed-head pigs, we're sick of backroom deals and payola and insider bullshit, and we're especially sick of the republican dirt-bags picking our candidates.

[MyNameGoesHere]

82. HA. The supporters of hope, unity, and change have forgotten

that it is Deans JOB to raise money to help fight repukes. HE IS OH SO COOOOOOL.

[madfloridian]

83. Hillary's big donors drying up the DNC fundraising..not getting their way

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1925

[lojasmo]

86. LOL at the 'un named DNC source" who says....

"The general election has started"

The article is an exploration in ass-hattery.

Here's the only worthwhile paragraph.

"The problem, it seems, isn’t that the DNC is doing any worse at this point than in previous presidential years. Rather, the DNC is unable to take advantage of an extremely favorable fundraising environment because the party’s presidential candidates have vacuumed so much cash out of donors."

I've got your back, Howard. Increasing the currency of my democracy bond now.

(That's on top of my monthly contribution to Obama, and the fifty I just kicked in extra, and the $400 I just gave to my congressman)

Effing haters. Seriously, get a life.

[Orsino]

88. They're stuck in the twentieth century.

The slow flow of money is in spite of Dean, I think, rather than because of him.

[Texas Hill Country]

94. Dean has been a damn disaster.

[Iceburg]

98. Looks like the convention is going to be a potluck supper! /nt

[chascarrillo]

99. "And they are not getting a nickel from me". Thanks for being petulant.

You want us to lose the Senate? Why?

How can you even post on a Democratic site?

Jesus!