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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:46 PM
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The Video Clip is Bait
Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM by Pirate Smile

The Video Clip is Bait

by Sun dog
Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:01:23 AM PDT

Two diaries on the rec list and the trolls already using the new Clinton talking points down below.

Sun dog's diary :: ::
The video clip of Kantor talking to Carville and Stephanopolous is most likely intended to get Obama supporters to embrace a fake smear. It's an old trick people and it works.

The story isn't going to be that a Clinton aide back in 92 insulted Indiana. The story is going to be that Obama supporters pushed a fake video trying to smear Hillary.

This is classic Rovian shit. We all use the phrase and talk about the evils of Rove but we always forget what that actually means.

Sometimes it means someone hands you exactly what you're hungry for. They know it's a fake but you don't until after you've run around town waving it in the air. Then you're screwed. Ask Dan Rather.

Deal with this now people. Delete those diaries. Look for the truth. Represent Barack Obama.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/125635/1207/735/507783


edit to add - I'm happy to see that the Diaries mentioned where already off the Recommended list as soon as I went back and checked.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:47 PM
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1. BINGO.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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2. Thank you
I knew I couldn't be the only person who's first thought went to Dan Rather.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:02 PM
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12. good on you for catching it!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:48 PM
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3. If thats the story, the backlash will be massive. nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:52 PM
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4. Backlash in which direction? It will never be proven either way I bet so I don't think it goes
anywhere. It seems like a three hour dust-up that disappears.

It always seemed ambiguous to me.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:52 PM
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5. It seems that many of us are smelling the same thing.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:53 PM
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6. K and R!!!
I watched it on my wife's IMac and he says 'they are shittin' meaning pollsters, maybe or the WH.. and about the "white ^&^&%^" I don;t know, doesn't really sound conclusive....I'd really doubt that someone in his position would say something like that with camera crews in the room.

Not even a Hillary supporter would be THAT stupid.

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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:53 PM
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7. Delete those diaries? how dishonest. The truth is, the BO supporters, some even still,
DID run with this story. Thus far, only one has apologized for it.

I would like to know who doctored that vid, and whether it was done to try not to talk about that spiritual advisor and former member of BO's campaign. Conspiracy theories can work both ways. :)
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:59 PM
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8. Most important post on this issue yet.
Thanks - always good to keep our wits about us and know what we're facing.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:00 PM
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9. K & R
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:00 PM
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10. ...and off to the Greatest Page with you. (n/t)
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rentonpunk Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:01 PM
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11. you guys are sure following obamas "new kind of politics" theme - LOL.
Why is everything always Hillary's fault?!
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:02 PM
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13. bingo bingo. HIGH ROAD TO DC.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:03 PM
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14. It's what I have been saying...this is too well planned....n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:03 PM
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15. I guess the lesson for Democrats is: Don't push any smears against a Democrat.
Don't blame either Rove or Hillary for this one, Obama supporters. You pushed it, because you loved it.

Suck it up, now.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:07 PM
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19. That's rich.
Tell Mrs. Clinton to stick to the issues, then.

I'd much prefer to debate substance. Too bad she wallows in gutter trash and then whines when some is thrown her way.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:07 PM
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20. you mean not do what Blumenthal was doing for Hillary?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:05 PM
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16. But it's truuuuue, nooooo.. ...... o....o...o......... .....!
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:05 PM
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17. kick & rec & let this die fellow Obama supporters. You know that's
what our candidate would want us to do, even if the clip was legit.

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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:06 PM
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18. I'm starting to realize this
And I'm embarassed. I got all excited by the denial because it really does sound to me like he says "Who cares if we win? These people are shit." The other part is really unintelligible.

But even so, in the larger scheme of the campaign how is this important? It's the same old politics. It's tempting to get swept up in it especially after the whole Wright issue was overblown. Tit for tat right? They went after Obama after something someone he knew said something bad so why not?

I don't think it was completely doctored but I do think now it's meaningless. Like I said embarassed to be manipulated.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:08 PM
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21. It's a good thing Obama
doesn't do shit like this.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:08 PM
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22. Sorry
I can't resist.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:18 PM
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23. Kicking again .. because this is right on. /nt
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:20 PM
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24. No more so than any other Internet hoax, perhaps.
Though I suppose I could be wrong again.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:23 PM
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25. Real sick of the players, getting sick of the played.
The timing is interesting though - pushed the robo-calls and Blumenthal's emails down the page nicely.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:24 PM
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26. Rove is playing his fiddle & we're dancing to his tune.
The Obamainians stopped when they realized they were being made to look like fools. The question is: Will the Clintonites stop too?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:24 PM
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27. I was just thinking today watching Obama on TV and back on message that this is great
Both of our candidates on message. Don't get no better. That this is just what the Republicans don't want. Then the Drudge and the Repigs flooded the internet with this crap and people who I once considered intelligent went completely ape shit. I never seen anything like it.

Wait a minute. Same think happened to Kerry with his "fake girlfriend" story when he ran for president. I have seen this before.

Don
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:38 PM
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28. yup, as I'm saying, remember how Dan Rather got fired, and how freerepublic was involved
its a little too familiar
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