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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:52 PM
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I'm Tired Of The Media Whores Saying Edwards Didn't Give Kerry A Bounce In
The Polls...


Kerry was already tied or slightly leading the Simian In Chief when he chose Edwards so one would not expect a large bounce.


Gallup used to have a section that showed all the presidential races since 1960 from Jan of the Election year to Election Day... I can't find it but maybe an enterprising DUer can...

DON'T BUY THE MEDIA WHORE DOG FOOD!!!!



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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 01:54 PM
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1. I Don't Remember An Incumbent Trailing At This Time Who Went On To Win...
NT
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 06:36 PM
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8. GW Bush was behind Dukakis
Edited on Sat Jul-10-04 06:37 PM by robcon
I think it was double digits in 1988.

on edit: oops Bush the first was not an incumbent prez.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:00 PM
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2. I don't know about the link, but I heard yesterday
that it's really too soon to tell. To really have decent polling info, you probably have to waid until next Tuesday.

I suspect to have overnight poll results, the sample would be very small, thus not terribly reliable.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:02 PM
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3. There's A Poll By Newsweek Which Ended Yesterday...
It has Kerry up 51-45% in a two man race and up 47% - 44% in a three man race.....


This is good cuz Nad(i)r won't be on all fifty ballots....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:08 PM
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4. check out my post on convention and edwards
or check out kerry's blog on it which is where i got it. they explain everything so people don't end up falling for right wing spin. the fact is that while there is no HUGE numbers bounce, the bounce that did happen came from places which are mostly republican (the south and rural areas) making those places competitive now. so kerry has his base secured and now he is going to chip into republican areas with edwards as vp.

al gore got a huge bounce with lieberman, but he had been way behind bush when he announced his vp. and even then it didn't result in making as many places competitive as is the case this time.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:18 PM
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5. Somebody Needs To Link Gallup....
Ike never trailed Stevenson, LBJ never trailed Goldwater, Nixon never trailed McGovern, Reagan never trailed Mondale, and Clinton never trailed Dole at this point....


The media whores need to mention this...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:32 PM
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6. i don't think it's their intention to be accurate
they are trying to spin in bush's favor. this is why when polls showed bush 1 or 2 points ahead of kerry they said bush was leading. but if kerry had a 5 point lead they said it was a tie.

they also refuse to report on the comparisons between edwards and cheney. and how far more people like edwards than cheney.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 03:41 PM
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7. I did see a vp poll on Cheney and Edwards on CNN
It showed Cheney at 33% approval and Edwards at 58% approval, I think. Am not positive about those figures, but am positive about the huge lead of Edwards. I saw this several times that day on CNN.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:06 PM
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9. I'm tired of them daring -- no, egging -- Bush to dump Cheney
I feel like it's almost a media crusade to get Bush to dump Cheney, just to make news. The news organizations are polling for Kerry/Edwards match ups with possible substitute runningmates on the Bush ticket. Why are they doing the RNC's job for them?

Colin Powell was the most distressing -- 54 to 43 victory. That would just be cheap. Would Colin go for it?

Frist, my nemesis, didn't stand a chance, thank cheddar.

I think it's a no-brainer that if Bush dumps The Evil One that it would improve his chances -- especially if he tried to get a minority on the ticket.

I HATE the media. And Kerry most certainly did get a bounce from Edwards -- the same poll showed Kerry beating Bush by six points.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 07:16 PM
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10. some polls show a bigger bump than others but wait until after
the convention it will be more pronounced.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:38 PM
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11. Gallup History Link Below
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:18 AM
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14. Thank You- We Need To Kick This Thread
Every incumbent who was losing at this time went on to lose....
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:40 PM
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12. What a load of crap! Kerry has clearly jumped in the polls. n\t
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 08:41 PM
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13. I don't think there will be a substantial bounce for either candidate
for Kerry's VP pick, or for either convention.

The country is far too polarized, and most people have their minds made up.
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