How many people would vote for Nader if they knew all about him?

[ButterflyBlood]

Two nights ago, I was at a party. I overheard some kids talking about how much they hated Bush. Even in my rather drunken state, this made me happy of course, and I emphasized to vote for Kerry. Various other kids heard me, and the one I directed it to say "well I probably will but I'm still considering Nader..."

A girl next to me screamed "A vote for anyone but Kerry is a vote for Bush!" and then I said "but there's even more to it than that." And I told about his swipes at Michael Moore's weight after Moore spurned him. I told about his union busting, his investments in rival companies before the whole Corvair business (I was around 0.07 BAL level at the moment so obviously I couldn't bring up all the details, but the people I was talking to were in similar states. Good thing I at least speak better than I walk). About how even the Green Party has spurned him now, his Republican support, and if I had known it at the time, his swipes at Dean, calling him a spoiler.

After this all the kids listening were saying things like "wow thanks, no way I'm voting for that jerk now" so I've probably won over quite a few new Kerry voters. But if all the idiotic and very non-leftist things Nader's been doing lately were more publicized, why would ANYONE vote for him?

I suspect the vast majority of Nader's support comes from people like these, kids who just want to cast a protest vote and have no clue about all the nonsense Nader's been doing lately. It's another good sign that many other people there were already for Kerry. It's important to get the truth out. Make sure as many people as possible know the truth about Nader.

[mzmolly]

1. I agree. Nader is nothing more than a protest vote, and most

people who intend to vote for him, don't know WHO he really is.

Some dismiss his lack of perfection because we all have skeletons, but I say if your gonna vote for a flawed human being, vote for the one that can take an evil/wreckless pResident out of the OO.

[George_Bonanza]

2. What irritates me the most

Are those people who say that they'll vote for Nader because the Democrats are too corrupt, without actually dispensing actual incidents, just vague references to not being their fricking personal whims party. Okay, what party that actually has to convert fancy words in actions has not disappointed, or been "corrupt"? Like if Nader ever got into the White House, he wouldn't cause a scandal or two.

[mzmolly]

3. Heck Nader is full of scandal, but Murdoch's media will keep that on

the hush.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13141

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/07/01/nader_jacobs/index_np.html

http://realchange.org/nader.htm

This page has some excellent references.

http://www.spitfirelist.com/f264.html

We should also remind people that Nader said "Go to my rally's, but vote for Kerry."

http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1972353

[John_H]

4. This is the exactly why Dem groups need to spend a fraction

of their hundreds of millions to destroy nader once and for all. I'd say a five million buck ad buy, and the resulting media attention it would get would expose the union busting the profiteering, the lies, the megalomania and Nader would drop to less than one percent. The best part is that Ralph would go nuts, go on every show. And the more he talked about it, the more attention he'd bring to the ads.


C'mon Move On, The Media Fund, etc. If it prevented another Florida, it'd be the best money you ever spent.

The Dems tried to ignore Nader in 2k, 'cause they were afraid of pissing off naderites. That sure worked.

[mzmolly]

5. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!

Let's organize an add buy.