It's Over. Barack Obama is the Democratic Nominee

[RainDog]

The following is from this thread, the day after Clinton met with superdelegates in D.C. This is their response to whatever she had to say:

Hillary Rodham Clinton is such a polarizing figure that everyone who ever considered voting Republican in November, and even many who never did, will go to the polls to vote against her, thus jeopardizing Democrats down the ticket – i.e., themselves, or, for party leaders, the sizeable majorities they hope to gain in the House and the Senate in November.

(from this thread- thx AZblue-)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5684770&mesg_id=5684770

The superdelegates recognize that her negatives are so high that she could cost others their campaigns. Above all else, politicians are about their own political survival, and party survival.

For those who are Clinton supporters- I understand your disappointment. I'm sorry, for your sakes, that your candidate will not be the democratic candidate. For all the arguing here, however, the ultimate issue is democratic power in all three branches of power. Since the superdelegates are saying that she jeapordizes this, there is simply no way that she will be the nominee.

Clinton is fortunate to have so many loyal and dedicated followers. I hope she will now work to bring the party, and especially her supporters, to the point at which we can focus on raising money and issues to defeat McCain.

[Condem]

1. We know that, RainDog

But can we still have some fun before it goes over to the GE?

[RainDog]

5. I don't get it

money wasted on interparty fights could go toward GE issues. this isn't a nothing matter. what's fun about this infighting?

[Condem]

6. Rain

I'm just talking about DU. No money involved here.....at least not that I know of.

[RainDog]

9. I'm talking about the real world.

as long as Clinton stays in the race, Obama has to spend money to counter her campaign. No matter who knows it's over, it's not over if he has to continue to focus on her campaign attacks.

[Condem]

11. And we'll keep donating.

THIS is his toughest fight. Trust me.

[Double T]

2. obamagandists are busy conjuring up fairy tales day and night.

We will see WHO is eating their words when the COnvention is over.

[Condem]

3. That fuckin pit bull, again.

[Liberal Gramma]

4. I'll be glad to provide the salt and pepper for ya

[RC]

8. Yeah, we will.

We have ALL got to get it RIGHT this time. Make sure YOU are NOT the ONE that screws it up!!

[Double T]

15. I would never dream of being a hypocrite and vote for a fraud like BO.

[Condem]

16. And you save animals?

[Double T]

17. Most animals are NOT frauds. Can't say the same for MOST politicians..........

specially YOUR's.

[Condem]

19. Yeah

Hillary Is the most down to earth politician I've ever seen. Keep voting status quo, double t.

[Double T]

20. I've got one hell of a lot of issues and opposition to HRC's position on specific issues.

I have a hell of a lot MORE issues and opposition to BO on specific issues, his lack of accomplishment, his incompetence in managing what he has already been given to manage and his continual contradictions in what he says. Remember, I said MOST politicians are frauds. Peace.

[Condem]

21. Double T

Lincoln had No accomplishments. Oh , maybe the Black Hawk War. My bad.

[mkultra]

36. your confused

[Double T]

42. Not confused at ALL. At least I'm NOT in denial like MANY here.

[DearAbby]

10. I have one thing to say about that..........

::waves Clinton will win "Wish bone"::: FETCH!

[RainDog]

13. Let's be gracious winners

It's too much like George W. and Karla Faye to mock people when they are grieving.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. Here's how I look at it. Which of the two gives McCain the biggest chance at winning?

I can only think of one: the most disliked of the two.

[Bensthename]

12. Hillary has too many negatives and too few delegates.

She is done. Obama is just running out the clock at this point.

[Joyce78]

14. Dear Superdelegates,

You are Superidiots ... let the devoted American voter VOTE!!! Harry Reid, shut your yap and stop threatening to force the "supers" to endorse soon. You didn't have the balls to stop the funding of this illegal war, and, Fancy Nancy Pelosi, attend another fund-raiser for yourself ... don't ever pay attention to the likes of Veterans like John Murtha.

[cali]

18. lol. Reid isn't suggesting that the voting be stopped

and you hypocritical hillbots loooved the SDs back when 200 of them endorsed hillypoo before the voting even started. tough shit for you. continue on with your whining now.

[jillan]

22. Does Obama have 2024 delegates?

Then he is just a candidate - not a nominee.

[Condem]

24. In due time, pirhana

In due time.

[Eurobabe]

35. OP doesn't know

English tenses, should have posted in simple future: SUB + will {auxilliary helper verb} + be

:hi:

[RainDog]

37. oh but I do

declarative mood - a statement of fact based upon overwhelming evidence of a claim.

[Eurobabe]

38. Obama will be the Democratic Nominee

make no bones about it. I completely agree.

[RainDog]

26. you are missing the point

the race is over because Hillary has no coat tails. She has "negative" coat tails, and this reason alone makes it impossible for her to be the candidate.

[Gore1FL]

29. He's the only one able to get 2025 delegates.

And he will have them in even the worst of the worst case scenarios.

TRhis was true after WI, and reinforced every contest thereafter.

[AZBlue]

23. K/R

:toast:

[RainDog]

25. thanks for your post

knowing this gist of thought absolutely confirmed to me what I knew in other ways.

[texastoast]

27. How obvious

And how weird that she got this far. If she's the nominee, look for record numbers of Repukes to come out and bring their clothespins and vote for McCain. Many will stay home and let Barack have his chance, but they won't if it's Hillary.

[doc03]

28. It's over (if) Barack Obama is the Democratic Nominee n/t

[RainDog]

30. again, the point is that Hillary would harm other candidates

in other races. This acknowledgment among those currently serving in the house means that she cannot get them as superdelegates. These delegates will endorse Obama... whether now or later. This knowledge makes her campaign undeniably over for all intents and purposes. The party as a whole cannot afford for her to be the nominee.

The presidency is only one part of the general election. In order to accomplish legislation, democrats want to work toward a super majority. the end result is blatant.

[BenDavid]

31. Sorry to disagree with ya, but Howard Dean said today the following

"super delegates do have the right to overthrow the popular vote and elect the best candidate to go up against John McCain."

Shalom
Ben David

[BenDavid]

32. Sorry to disagree with ya, but Howard Dean said today,

"super delegates do have the right to overthrow the popular vote and elect the best candidate to go up against John McCain."

Shalom
Ben David

[RainDog]

33. Actually, you're agreeing with me

the point is that those in the house think that Hillary would be the absolutely worst candidate to go against McCain. not only for the president, but also for all those running in house and senate campaigns.

Dean is saying that, even if Hillary claims that she has won something because of the numbers of popular votes, the superdelegates may override that argument. The popular vote is only one part of the primary. Dean was agreeing with the quote in the OP.

[4_Legs_Good]

34. It was over when Obama carried Wisconsin by 17 points

that's when I knew we had it in the bag.

Agreed on the SDs too. They can do what they will, but I don't think they'll do what Hillary needs them to.

David

[rug]

39. Your authority is a GDP post citing politico citing unnamed sources.

Be sorry as well that the ensuing opinion is meaningless.

[Perry Logan]

40. My ears are ringing from all these declarations that it's over.

[TragedyandHope]

41. Yes He Is