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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:29 PM
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Forget Farrakhan, Wright and Ayers! I want to know about Obama's connection with
Kevin Bacon!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:30 PM
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1. Kevin Bacon!
Well that's it, can't vote for him now.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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2. Kevin Bacon is an Edwardshead
Didn't you see him singing Footloose in Iowa?
It was pretty bad.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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3. Have to include tv it seems.
The Oracle says: barack obama has a Kevin Bacon number of 2.

Barack Obama was in "Entertainment Tonight" (1981) {(2008-02-25)} with Kelly Preston
Kelly Preston was in Death Sentence (2007) with Kevin Bacon
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:34 PM
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10. LMFAO
ET ---> Kelly PReston--> :rofl:
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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4. well I heard Obama completely disavows any connection with Kevin Bacon.
so there
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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5. I want to know about Hillary's pastor..
who just was sentenced to 3 years for molesting a 7 year old...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:33 PM
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9. I believe you are referring to a story about a preacher from Clinton, NY.
That guy has nothing to do with Hillary (although she IS his senator!)
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:55 PM
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True enough.
Hillary DOES have "pastor" problems (i.e. the dominionazi prayer group known as "the fellowship") but that was NOT one of them.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:31 PM
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6. Bacon, Bacon, Bacon!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:32 PM
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7. Straight from the Oracle of Bacon at UVA
barack obama has a Kevin Bacon number of infinity.

barack obama cannot be linked to Kevin Bacon

Irrefutable proof.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:33 PM
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8. I still want to know why...
...he sat in a pew for 20 years listening to a racist. Why? Why?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:34 PM
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11. He was reading the bulletin. Later, he was trying to keep the kids from kicking the pews.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:38 PM by hedgehog
On edit: should every Catholic politician drop out of the Church? After all, our bishops tell us that GLBT people are inherently disordered and that same sex marriage is wrong. I'm sure some people will answer that question affirmatively, but I am trying to point out that no Church is perfect.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:36 PM
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12. probably for the same reason...
that you are listening to the race baiter Clintons...
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:39 PM
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13. I still want to know why you haven't listend to the actual sermons
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:40 PM by izzybeans
you pretend to be referencing.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:41 PM
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14. I want to know why, if you really wanted an answer, you haven't read about how that's not true?
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 12:43 PM by cui bono

Either you are incredibly lazy and ignorant, or you are purposely spreading smears in an attempt to swiftboat one of the Dem candidates.

Why don't you use your posting time to inform yourself or reform yourself, whichever is most necessary.

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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:09 PM
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18. how convenient to ignore Hillary's church....
from The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

and Mother Jones
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillary...

>snip<
Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."

>snip<

Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

>snip<

The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance.

>snip<

Throughout her time at the White House, Clinton writes in Living History, she took solace from "daily scriptures" sent to her by her Fellowship prayer cell, along with Coe's assurances that she was right where God wanted her. (Clinton's sense of divine guidance has been noted by others: Bishop Richard Wilke, who presided over the United Methodist Church of Arkansas during her years in Little Rock, told us, "If I asked Hillary, 'What does the Lord want you to do?' she would say, 'I think I'm called by the Lord to be in public service at whatever level he wants me.'")

>snip<

These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfast—regularly attended by about 40 members—is a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.

>snip<

Clinton has championed federal funding of faith-based social services, which she embraced years before George W. Bush did; Marci Hamilton, author of God vs. the Gavel, says that the Clintons' approach to faith-based initiatives "set the stage for Bush." Clinton has also long supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a measure that has become a purity test for any candidate wishing to avoid war with the Christian right.

>snip<

Sean Hannity has called Obama's church a "cult," but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton's "Family," which is organized into "cells"--their term--and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia. In 2002, Sharlet joined The Family's home for young men, forswearing sex, drugs and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn't undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn't completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners--alone.

>snip<

At the heart of The Family's American branch is a collection of powerful right-wing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe and Rick Santorum. They get to use The Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, The Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by The Family's young women's group. And, at The Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already powerful.

>snip<

Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.

>snip<

Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the under-appreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define The Family's theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power--cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."

Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity United Church of Christ. Now it's up to Clinton to explain--or, better yet, renounce--her long-standing connection with the fascist-leaning Family.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:12 PM
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19. Yes, but do you think Hillary really believes what she hears preached there
or is she just trying to gain political points?



:sarcasm:
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:19 PM
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21. no more so than her prayer buddies Santorum and Inhofe
but this part is verrry intersting:

Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.

Doesn't sound like she'll fight for women's reproductive rights...
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:45 PM
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15. You don't chose your family
but you do chose bacon. :mad:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:53 PM
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16. I'm not going to sit here and passively endure this Bacon slime. I'm literally sizzling with anger.
That's right... I'm popping mad!
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:55 PM
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17. Mmm, bacon...
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:18 PM
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20. Kevin was in Sleepers w/Brad Pitt, Brad was in Oceans 11 w/George Clooney & George endorsed Obama!
Did it in 3!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:21 PM
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22. Why does Ignored always show up and spoil a perfectly good Bacon thread?
Why does Ignored hate Kevin Bacon?
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