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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:47 PM
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I am so damn sick of the 'He can't close the deal' arguments
If he loses tonight that is. JESUS!!! He was NEVER expected to win this state! This always has been HC stronghold. Just to come close tonight is a big win, and close is 10% or less (figuring how far she was ahead recently).
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:48 PM
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1. Look how many frigging conservatives they have on this panel and hell
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 06:49 PM by EV_Ares
Gregory is Rove's dancing partner. Scarborough and little big mouth won't ever shut up Pat. Harold is DLC and Clinton all the way.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:49 PM
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2. A month ago Obama was down 26%. n/t
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:54 PM
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6. and one year ago,
the name Barack Obama was almost completely unknown.
Look at how far he's come in that short time!
GoBama!!!!
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:49 PM
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3. I know!
MSNBC is all over him for that. Newsflash: working-class white people vote for Hillary. The demographics were stacked in her favor.

That and the thousands of Republicans who changed parties to vote for her.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:00 PM
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14. Isn't it interesting that when white people don't vote for Obama it's HIS fault
and when black voters don't vote for Hillary, it's THEIR fault?

You never hear any of these pundits criticize Clinton for failing to attract black voters. Yet, the fact some white voters don't vote for Obama is proof of some failing on Obama's part.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:49 PM
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4. KO just explained it perfectly..
Using his sloped hands as visual aids. It's all about trajectory. Oh, and the fact that Hillary is already mathematically eliminated.

Joe S. is an idiot.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:49 PM
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5. I agree with you all the way!
Republican parrots!
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:56 PM
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7. What about when he won 11 contests in a row, with double digits?
Why can't Hillary "close the deal"?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:57 PM
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8. The state score is something like 14-30, Obama. Who can't close the deal again?
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:58 PM
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9. TPM
TPM has all the PA polls, even from last year, and one of them has Obama at 14%.

I don't know if the people on TV actually believe what they say, but if they do, somebody should remind them that every state is different.

When Obama wins Mississippi by 23%, what's the first thing that everybody tells us. That the demographics heavily favor Obama in MS.

But now in PA, they don't mention that the demographics heavily favor Clinton here.

That's like saying in the GE, Obama is doing so well, how come he can't win Utah.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 06:58 PM
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10. He's a lot closer to "closing the deal" than she is. That's for sure.
NGU.


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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:00 PM
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11. The whiners can blow off steam while Obama goes on to win.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:00 PM
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12. That's just repuke bs. They want Hillary so bad they can taste it.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:00 PM
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13. Here's Why That Argument Is Important:
If Obama can't solidly thump Hillary's ass across the board in spite of these facts:

He's outspending her 3:1
The press has been trashing HC for 15 years
The most vocal / influential liberals are in his camp
The bulk of the leftie blogosphere has been jizzing over him

How is he going to defeat John McCain, a man who most of America admires? We all saw what happened when the NYT printed its article about McCain's emotional affair - they were booed to the rafters.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:01 PM
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15. As Russert said...
It's just impossible to peel away a bunch of those women's votes from Hillary. And we know that in the general, these votes WILL go to Obama overwhelmingly.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:07 PM
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16. Hillary was "inevitable" so how come
she couldn't close the deal. I don't hear the media harping on that. :grr:
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