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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:52 PM
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How the hell does BO think he can unite the Country if he can't unite the Democratic Party
He is like Bush, the uniter from Texas, all hat and no cattle.
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:53 PM
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1. He can only unite the Party when half of it stops resisting. n/t
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:54 PM
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4. Resisting what? Him?
Sorry, I haven't fallen under the Obama spell, and it ain't gonna happen anytime soon--if at all.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:04 PM
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18. I don't need you to fall under the spell. Just to vote for him in November
just like I'll vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:31 PM
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55. So, what are you going to do after she drops out???
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:28 PM
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75. resisting reality. so, if you don't vote for him if he is the nominee and
we get all war all the time McCain, I hope they draft you first because that is what is coming.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:41 PM
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64. That is BushCo logic
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:41 PM
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65. Resisting? Is that what you call a Democratic Primary? You've had a busy 2 days in GDP.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:46 PM
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67. It will take an Obama to clean up a Clinton mess, after she destroys...
...the Dem Party with her divisiveness and attacks on Democratic Party voters.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:54 PM
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2. When he is not defending fear-mongering attacks from the left and the right.
He will be able to do much.

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:54 PM
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3. And in your mind Hillary Clinton is the great Uniter.... I beg to differ. n/t
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:57 PM
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13. I beg to differ, Hillary is tough, smart, patriotic, she has never
said that her biggest asset is to unite the Country, she knows there are difference in people and party. BO is the one who calls himself a uniter, how can he do it if he loses almost half of the democrats?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:01 PM
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16. Yeah, and she has never been able to say she was wrong about anything either! n/t
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:11 PM
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28. vote for Precious, do not touch, do not rattle, throw him the softball questions
whine and cry then know what a tough, strong President he will be for our Country. Yes.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:16 PM
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40. He actually will be a very strong President and not only IMHO but many others....
Unfortunately, I personally am not completely convinced that we will even have an election in November. I still maintain that this scumbag Administration is going to cause something between now and November that will disallow an election.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:10 PM
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27. And the lieing sack of shit thing doesn't bother you?
She will also lose a hell of a lot of democrats if she gets the nom.

Either way, both candidates are polarising. One also happens to be a decent human being instead of a lieing scumbag who will do anything to get herself elected.

I will allow as an exercise for you to decide which is which.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:15 PM
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37. You are so blind,I hope you aren't so let down if BO should win
You must look at his stance on many things, especially the war, the ecomony and the change he thinks he can bring about. How can you change with the backing of Kerry, Kennedy and the very oldtimers. He is just doing what they tell him
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:19 PM
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41. OK... So we go with your post and Clinton wins... What do you really see here doing...
as President that will be a change from the current Administration? She has been in step with the Bush Administration for ever as a Senator, so how the hell would she either be good for the country or make any positive significant changes?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:32 PM
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57. of course she will , she will get the troops out of Iraq, she will
be there for the women, men, children in the middle class, she will give us good health care and she loves this Country. She will place her hand on her heart during the National Anthem and show the world that she is for America, she will not entertain a Minister for 20 years, that hates America and what he stand for, she will go to bat for the lower and middle class that needs the most help. She will be a hero .
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:35 PM
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60. Thats a crock of crap... She will not be there for the middle class, she probably will not...
get us out of Iraq, and I doubt that she will be able to cope with the F***ing mess that will be left behind by these morons...
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:38 PM
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62. crock to you , not to me, I think she is so intelligent that she can get
this mess cleaned up.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:27 PM
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50. This isn't about Him it is about her
I support Obama because he is not her. He is not making up stories about things that never happened.

He is not playing dirty politics.

I honestly believe that if she were elected Obama would be OK with it. If he gets elected she will probably change parties like fucking Lieberman.

You are the one who is blind. You must want a woman so badly that you don't factor in character which she is lacking in spades.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:12 PM
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32. They are both patriotic.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:25 PM
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47. And Gosh Darn It - People Really Do
Not like Her!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:55 PM
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5. He seems to be a pretty good job of whittling away divisions
A year ago he was down by nearly 30 points in most polls.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:55 PM
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6. I heard some talking head this morning compare the
Hillary faction (land lines) to the Obama faction (cell phones). I thought it was a good analogy.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:55 PM
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7. "Hey, I'm gonna poop on your rug!"
"Why do you have such a problem keeping your rug clean?"

:crazy:
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:15 PM
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38. You made my point, but I don't think you realize it. n/t
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:55 PM
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8. Good point. nt
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:56 PM
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9. obama with 71 % likeablility Vs Hillary with 30%.. Who's the divider???
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:09 PM
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25. Likeability among who?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:56 PM
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10. It is the hate-filled Hillbots like yourself who are dividing the party.
Seriously, make an appointment to get some help. You're really going to need it by Wednesday. :(
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:05 PM
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20. see there you are, you and your lot, you think that there is
something wrong with people who won't vote for BO. what a game you are into. I think he would probably be the worst thing that could happen to our Country. We don't know the real BO , he is so secretive, you can't ask a real question without being called racist. He and his wife have been in a hate America filled Church for 20 yrs, yet he denies ever hearing anything negative, he is a friend with Mr,Ayers, the homeland terrorist. What do the American people really know of this man? Scary. All he can say is change, unity,the clouds will open up and you will vote for me. What a man of substance.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:06 PM
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22. You believe that Obama would be worse than McCain?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:12 PM
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29. maybe
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:12 PM
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31. If you can't decide if the Republican would be worse than the Democrat,
I would ask why you're here.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:21 PM
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44. why are you here trashing a former Dem. President and his wife.
you guys act so innocent , the turn around and demean, trash and belittle anything the Clintons do. That to me sounds very Republican, I have never been called a racist by a Republican, but have been bombarded by the racist insult here by democrats. What could the cause be?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:27 PM
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49. I'm trashing Bill Clinton? News to me.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:05 PM
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80. Well, you're spouting crap
And we're supposed to believe that Clinton is a innocent one?

We'll have to pull out the "No Fair" Hillary cartoon for that one.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:09 PM
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26. A "hate America filled church"
Do you really think that every sermon, every Sunday is about hating America? No wonder you're never going to get united. You obviously see the worst that is going on.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:15 PM
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39. A reply...


>> He and his wife have been in a hate America filled Church for 20 yrs

Respectfully - So sad that you have been drinking the kool aid.

Sen. Clinton is one of many great candidates the Democratic Party has presented. But she can only win by seeming to overrule the primary system.

Certainly if you prefer her and are in one the remaining primary states vote for her. But neither side gains by spreading falsehoods and right wing talking points.

We need to come together and put an end to Republican rule.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:21 PM
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43. I definitely DO know the "real" Hillary
And that is why I can NEVER vote for her.

28 years of this bullshit is far too long. If we don't reverse the trickle-down, corporatist, middle-class destroying, Likud enabling direction of this country NOW, we will not get another chance.

The fascists nearly succeeded in taking over this country in the last Depression. They will succeed in the next one, if we don't stop it, and stop them. AND HILLARY CLINTON IS ONE OF THEM.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:23 PM
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46. The Worst Thing for our Country? Have you been in a coma for
the last 7 plus years! Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonsalez! War, Economic Chaos, the almost complete turn of the Supreme Court to the Right - just one more fundamentalist member and kiss your rights goodbye! Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton! More of the same war mongering corporatists! Give me - the country, the world a Break.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:01 PM
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79. Please use his proper name, not his initials - Barack Obama
Or President Barack Obama if you're going to get used to the name, not BO.

Hawkeye-X
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:56 PM
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11. Hillary is all done
She should take it like a man and endorse the next President, instead of leading all her followers down this DEAD_END St.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:56 PM
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12. Hillary is dividing the party and you blame Barack for not uniting it? It will unite as soon as
Hillary stops playing Bush and stops staying the course, not admitting defeat and re-defining victory.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:58 PM
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14. How The Hell Does HC Think She Can Win
when 60+% of voters view her as untrustworthy,
when the math doesn't add up, when she's so last century?
She's like Bush, a corporate owned Republican.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:03 PM
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17. I guess Hillary must REALLY be like bush...
since she has united LESS of the Democratic party than Obama has.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:04 PM
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19. what a great OP for the Free Republic!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:05 PM
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21. I don't think Obama ever suggested that he would be elected by acclamation.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 06:06 PM by Occam Bandage
The party will unite once Hillary steps down. The nation will unite once McCain loses.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:07 PM
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23. and you are like an ostrich with your head in the sand. She can't win.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:07 PM
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24. What I'd like to know is where are all those people who
jumped into a recent thread outraged by the fact that someone stated that Hillary was the Democratic Party's version of Bush?

From the OP:

He is like Bush, the uniter from Texas, all hat and no cattle.



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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:12 PM
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30. How bout I turn that around on you and ask the same with Hillary?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:13 PM
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33. hahahah! Obama is "like Bush". Peddle the lies elsewhere.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:13 PM
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34. Wow. What an empty OP. Nothing to back up your little outburst? n/t
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:13 PM
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35. Really...
and hillary is doing such a great job of it, uniting the party against her that is. They should BOTH knock this shit off and unite the party against John McCain. I'll vote for the democratic candidate no matter what, but not everyone feels the same way...
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:14 PM
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36. Since when is a preliminary battle suppose to be unifying?
He certainly isn't going to unite conservative republicans with liberal democrats during the GE but who would?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:19 PM
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42. and this is supposed to be an argument FOR HRC?
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 06:29 PM by onenote
ROFL!

By the way, which candidate does better with independents?

http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/398.pdf
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:23 PM
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45. Because it's not up to him.
He's trying to inspire a decision that is ultimately ours to make. The biggest barrier is that there are quite a few Dems and Repubs who aren't interested in unity. Are you? Really?
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:27 PM
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48. How the hell does Hillary think she can win the GE if she can't win the Primary?
See? I can do that too.

And my question is better.

:P
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:28 PM
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51. Even Kerry can tell a better joke than you!
But it's still funny! :rofl:

300,000 thousand new registered voters in PA really does say a lot! 35,000 plus in Philly the other day!
:woohoo:
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washingdem Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:28 PM
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52. He WILL unite it. He'll finish her off in Indiana and we will come together.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:30 PM
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53. What an incredibly stupid and divisive question n/t
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:58 PM
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68. think what you will, he can never get the Hillary voters to back him
he is so divisive , he will have to work for the Republican vote , he will never get the Hillary supporters, after his demeaning, low class trashing of her.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:04 PM
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71. That doesn't say a lot about Hillary voters -- no wonder her campaign is a mess
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:30 PM
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54. Well, at least we've dispensed with that meme
You can sometimes work with DINO's to achieve rational and positive policy outcomes, but you can almost never work with todays Republicans.

You can't make deals with them (they'll breach them) and you can't expect that they'll change their stripes....
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:32 PM
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56. Some people don't WANT to be united. That's their problem not his. nt
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:32 PM
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58. Wow! What a dumbass post!!
Of course lies, distortions and dumb ass posts are you have left. Hillary is toast. She is a relic of the past. She has been tossed on the trash heap of history with bush, the swiftboaters and Karl rove....
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:46 PM
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66. Well Obama better start giving SPECIFICS on how he plans to unite,
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 06:46 PM by whistle
...change, move forward, solve, bring together, listen to all sides, heal, and make America strong again! :yoiks:
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:00 PM
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69. what a dumbass poster you are.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:33 PM
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59. It is Hillary Clinton who is putting her personal ambition above the party, not Barack Obama.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:35 PM
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61. Neither can HRC, at the moment..... nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:40 PM
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63. That is what I have been wondering also
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:03 PM
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70. How's HRC going to unite the Country? I won't vote for her
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:04 PM by jzodda
and many other's won't either. Her negative and nasty campaign has finished her for me and some others I know at least. She's the one closer to Bush in policy and MUCH closer in method. Its as if the Bush campaign people from 2000/04 is running her campaign in secret.
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Dhampir Kampf Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:09 PM
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72. Like Hillary has done any better?..
Obama is getting white, black, purple, young, old, and ancient voters. Hillary is getting old white people.

Which is more of a uniter?
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:10 PM
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73. all post and no substance
Like Hillary asleep at the wheel ducking sniper fire at 3 am
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:13 PM
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74. *Bush united the Democratic party like never before. Clinton is a divider llike *Bush.
Once Sen. Obama wins the nomination, we can unite and get on with beating McWar.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:29 PM
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76. And how has Queen Hillary united the Democratic party, Mags?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:37 PM
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77. I don't think either can "unite" the Dem Party...we just have to hope having ANY DEM IN THERE..
means we Activists can at least have a person who "might...might" listen to our pleas and petitions. Our Congress certainly doesn't listen. And, since Bush was an Imperial President for his Repugs with his Executive Privilege and the Signing Statements ...maybe a Dem will listen to his BASE that put him in like Bush did for his Neo-Cons and Christian Fundies.

So...does it matter if it's Hillary or Obama? It depends on who is closest to "McPower." That's a hard call with either of them, in my humble opinion. But...we gotta have "HOPE" ...as Obama says.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:56 PM
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78. He cannot. He has not been able to win the primary
Look at all the critizism of Hillary

poorly run campaign

High negatives

he has out raised her campaign and anyone else's

Yet he cannot win over blue collar working class middle America dems. It isn't just women.

He lost the popular vote in New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, California, Ohio and Texas.

If he is so transcending and such a great uniter, why hasn't he been able to win?

BTW he hasn't won half the dem party either much of his support came from independents and moderate republicans.

HELLO!!!!!


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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:48 PM
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81. He is not the divider,
Shillary is!
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