When Obama loses PA, should he give a concession speech?

[anonymous171]

I say no.

[CakeGrrl]

1. Conceding to WHAT?

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

2. Fuck no.

The math is supporting him. Polls say the popular vote will support him. He is our best chance of getting votes from both sides.

Can HRC say the same?

[anonymous171]

6. Agree. I think he should congratulate her, then say "but it's still one state out of 50"

[MercutioATC]

3. Yes, but as a congratulations to Clinton, not as a "concession".

He should both congratulate Clinton and stress that his campaign is in the lead and will remain there.

[IndependentDem]

44. i agree. n/t

[scheming daemons]

4. Why? Hillary didn't give a single one after any of the 12 straight Obama victories in February....

....

[woolldog]

20. That's exactly why he should.

He's better than her.

Plus it would be a way to thank all the volunteers in PA who have worked so hard for him. And acknowledgment of the people in PA who supported him.

[azmouse]

5. Should Hillary?

[Diamond Dog]

7. I wouldn't. Not when she didn't give a single concession speech in February. n/t

[stellanoir]

8. If that's the outcome he'll be gracious as he always is.

Someone else will be not so much so if that happens.

[BlooInBloo]

15. DUers are funny in saying he should be as big a jackass as she is...

Um, folks, THAT'S WHAT MAKES HIM FUCKING DIFFERENT FROM HER!

I like the team I'm on, but better teammates wouldn't be a bad thing.

[hell-bent]

18. You mean like after the Nevada contest?

[newmajority]

9. Obama should only concede PA, if Hillary concedes the nomination.

Because the 8 delegates she wins in PA ain't gonna do shit for her.

[hell-bent]

26. You guys are so naive about party politics.

Obama will not have the magic number of pledged delegates to clinch the nomination. So, it will be left up to the SDS to decide on which candidate is the real choice of the Democratic voters. And, which has the best chance of winning the GE. If by chance, Hillary has more popular votes than Obama on June 3rd; then, they will look at the states she has won and will give her the nomination. If she doesn't have the popular vote, then Obama will be the nominee. That's the way it will be decided.

[here_is_to_hope]

32. Thank you mister 'no profile' know most of it type poster...

Good friggin' gravy, are you high or something?
SHE HAS LOST!

[hell-bent]

38. WTF are you attempting to say?

Make some intelligent rebuttal instead of babbling "no profile". You sound like a buffoon.

[LSK]

41. where is your profile?

What are you trying to hide?

[newmajority]

33. Hillary doesn't have the popular vote now, so how would she have it then?

And don't give me the Florida/Michigan bullshit, because those "votes" do not exist, thanks to Hillary's DLC flunkies in those states, who failed in their attempt to frontload those states into their assumed coronation (which didn't happen either.)

[hell-bent]

39. Sorry you are wrong about Florida.

So you are ok with just throwing out 870,986 votes for Hillary because Dean screwed up as well as the Florida legislature? I guess you want your Messiah to be nominee by any dubious means. The fucking caucuses are another joke which puts your man in the pledged delegate lead by rather nefarious methods.If Hillary get close to a 10 point spread in Pennsylvania she will have the momentum in the other states except for North Carolina. She can cut BO's lead in the popular vote in the up coming races. Face it, he can not get the white,blue collar vote in the major industrial states. He can't win with just the Black vote and the elitists! Good man, but not at the right time.

[newmajority]

42. How the fuck do you blame this on Howard Dean??

Because he enforced the rules??

Oh that's right..... DLC'ers don't recognize any party leadership except their corporate donors.

And the only thing "wrong" with caucuses is that DLC slimeballs like Rendell and Strickland can't fix them.

Where the people vote, Obama wins. Where machines count the votes, it's Hillary.

Why is that?

[thunder rising]

10. an offer Hillary can't refuse ... drop now and I'll pay off your debt!

[endarkenment]

11. Yes. If he loses in PA he should graciously congratulate Clinton

on her victory, during which speech he should note that he remains the clear leader in delegates, and that he looks forward to her challenge in other upcoming primaries, such as North Carolina and Indiana. He is the presumptive nominee and he should act like one.

[ecstatic]

12. I think he should ignore her. He IS the frontrunner and will

remain so. If he congratulates her, he's lending her credibility, IMO.

[anonymous171]

14. I think so too.

While he should acknowledge her win, he should also acknowledge his own success in PA, and emphasize that while PA is a great state, it's not the only state that matters.

[Ken Burch]

13. Shouldn't that be "If"? The newest poll shows him ahead, y'know.

n/t.

[anonymous171]

16. He's going to lose. Don't let the Clinton camp's spin fool you.

But that doesn't matter. Hillary was supposed to win.

[Ken Burch]

22. Are you implying that the HRC people are spinning that they'll LOSE?

Isn't that suicidally risky for them, given that it could cause a last-minute stampede away from them?

Still, Obama will make a respectable showing, win or lose.

[anonymous171]

23. They're downplaying everything so when Clinton gets the expected 12 point win

they can be all "COMEBACK KID!"

[Ken Burch]

25. If it goes down that way, Obama should "Do a Hillary" and have a rally in North Carolina that night.

If she can do the "it doesn't count" thing, so can he.

[stillcool]

31. Yeah...I'm still on the 20+ goal line...

and I'm not moving.

[DearAbby]

17. Come on...

am I on Candid Camera?

[Eurobabe]

19. Concession for WHAT? Certainly not the primary race overall.

You mean congratulate the "winner?"

[anonymous171]

21. Whoops yeah.

[bobbert]

24. Hot dogs, hot dogs! Get 'em while they're hot!

Oops, wrong concession

[backscatter712]

27. Call it a victory speech in disguise.

One that brings across the message "We might have lost this battle, but we won the war!"

[book_worm]

28. He'll do what he always does give a gracious speech and congratulate Clinton

something she rarely has done for Obama.

[stillcool]

29. He does when he loses...

Of course he didn't lose Nevada..but I believe in all other states that he actually lost he gave concession speeches. Hillary doesn't like to congratulate anyone but herself.

[2rth2pwr]

30. Yes, and then face reality and withdraw from the race. Happily throwing his support to Hillary.

[Tribetime]

34. He should be talking about N.C. and how he will crush her there

and end it......unless he wins Pa.

[treestar]

35. Of course not.

Does not apply to the situation.

I don't think it applies to the nomination at all. Edwards, etc., did not have to give one - they only said they weren't running any more.

[jzodda]

36. Nope, He is the Frontrunner even if she wins so no need

He can afford to ignore her at this point except to respond to negative attacks. Will she give a concession speech after NC, the last big state to vote? I doubt it. In any event its all moot since her campaign does not even rest with voters anymore, just super delagates. Those are the only people she cares about because its her only chance to win.

[kwenu]

37. I have never known him not to be gracious if he loses. It's that other person who has a problem.

[hell-bent]

40. Like after the Nevada vote?

[kwenu]

43. Refresh please. I don't know what you are referring to.

[Vinca]

45. HUH? If he loses, he's still ahead. nt