Screw-em-gate is starting to get legs as a story

[rox63]

Clinton campaign is having to answer questions about it. :woohoo:

~snip~

"On a Clinton campaign conference call this morning, Hillary's advisers were asked directly what their basis is for denying outright that she said "screw 'em" about white working class southerners in a meeting in 1995, as author Benjamin Barber alleges."


Read the rest here: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/hillary_and_obama_camps_duke_i.php

[democrattotheend]

1. I sure hope so

It seems like kind of a hit job, taking something she said privately out of context, but she did the exact same thing with Obama's comment in San Francisco, and claimed he showed contempt for small town America, so this seems like totally fair game to me.

[rox63]

3. Hey, if ya can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen (sink) n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

17. It is a hit job, but it's simply adhering to the standards

that she herself has already set.

She's made it quite clear that she wants to fight this thing out in the gutter, so I guess she's getting her wish.

[Zachstar]

24. Fine with me She had a great chance to drop the issue and focus on issues and she has not.

[democrattotheend]

25. Exactly

It's beneath my principles, but if she is going to call Obama out of touch based on a distortion of something he said at a private event then she has to be held accountable.

[nels25]

32. I agree with the Clinton's

if it is good for the goose, then it is good for the gander.

[Adelante]

2. Witness for the defense

Who is saying she didn't make it? Don Baer, a Clinton speechwriter at the time, and, now, Reed, who obviously isn't a neutral observer.

We'll let you know if Reed speaks out.

Late Update: Baer, it turns out, is now chairman of Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates.

[papau]

5. Indeed only Hillary haters make good witnesses - at least on DU

[Zachstar]

8. Do you deny the accusations?

[rox63]

11. When I listen for denials

I hear only crickets...

[papau]

64. Yes - Don Baer, President Clinton's speech writer - says no such line of conversation occurred

Don Baer, President Clinton's speech writer at the time, who had attended the same meeting. He says: "I don't remember anything along those lines, at all. And I certainly don't remember Senator Clinton saying anything like that... they have their recollections of that, that is their business. The conversation, from my perspective, was moderated in tone."

[pocoloco]

13. LOL You must not be one of those

working class white southerners!!

[caligirl]

9. so much for a witness for Hil, another Penn associate! LOL.

[Zachstar]

46. Indeed they need a better Witness or better yet, Just admit she said it!

Letting it fester is going to do more harm to her campaign overall.

[ej510]

10. Lol @ Hillary complaining about shit after the shit she started last night!

[redqueen]

4. Good. (nt)

[Zachstar]

6. Looks like it is starting to pick up steam. This could be devestating for the Clinton Campaign!

And likely happened because of her Pushing bittergate!

So Clinton, You wanted to play Gotcha and now you got something you need to explain.

[meow mix]

16. screw em!

:patriot:

[Crunchy Frog]

18. Hope so. At this point she really needs to be finished off.

[Cha]

26. The "troubling" part is it wouldn't be

set well in the GE which she's not going to be a part of anyway..only in her mind.

[Life Long Dem]

28. She is either stupid or is spinning bittergate into a lie One or the other.

[rox63]

30. Obama says they are angry, which is probably true

Hillary just throws working-class southerners under the bus. "Screw 'em", so says the Queen. Not that far from "Off with their heads!"

[nels25]

33. Watch for another ghost from her past to put in a appearance

since she brought up the Weatherman and by extension radical groups of that era.

Than she might have to explain her summer internship in the late 60's or early 70's (which she glosses over in her bio with a paragraph or so) with an uber radical law firm in San Francisco, who made it one of their major missions in life to defend any radical they could (can you remember Angela Davis for example).

Now you may or may not have a overall positive opinion of the Ayers, Dorns or Davis types and their actions of almost 40 years ago, however HRC was using this situation as a way to paint Barack as an out of touch and semi elitist because she knows that most people did not see their actions in a very positive light back then, and even to this day I would wager a significant majority of the public would find them semi-un american. Which of course was her whole point.

[rndmprsn]

7. good...people need to know how fake she is

[rox63]

19. Everything she says and does seems so rehearsed and scripted

Throw away the script, and what do you have left?

[rndmprsn]

40. a blonde =]

[Imagevision]

12. The M$M is pathetically letting a r-e-al story slide by!!! (screw em!)

[Zachstar]

65. They will pick it up eventually.

[JVS]

14. excellent

[meow mix]

15. K&R

[jenmito]

20. Yup! Scarborough brought it up saying something like, "Please tell me it's not true that Hillary,

my girlfriend, said 'Screw 'em' when talking about working class Southerners," and Wolfson answered something like, It's not true." He said there's no truth to it, that there's a witness who said it never happened. That was it-no follow up-Scarborough (and Mika B.) just seemed to accept it and moved on.

[wowimthere]

21. It should have gotten legs two days ago... K&R she is as corrupt as the day is long.

[Imagevision]

22. I expected Chris Mathews or Olbermann to at least give it some even slight mention?

[Cha]

23. The "troubling" part of "SCREW 'EM" to me is..

that's still her whole attitude for the Democratic Party. hilary's all about Screw 'em..she hasn't learned a damn thing in how many freakin' years. She's static..brain didn't go anywhere just got screwier.

[TwilightGardener]

56. That's always been her attitude--that's why she mocks Obama supporters

repeatedly, without concern for their support in the general election. If you aren't inclined to vote for her, if you can't serve some purpose for her, if you can't give her the power she craves, then screw you.

[Life Long Dem]

27. These legs are meant for walking!

A picture is worth a thousand words!

Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota on 2/2/2008

[my3boyz]

29. I hope she denies it and then the author produces a tape of her saying it. nt

[ORDem]

31. kick

:kick:

[Zachstar]

68. Kick 2.0!!

:kick:

[knixphan]

34. mail-out

'Screw-em'? Mail a link to that story to all your uninformed friends - let 'em hear Hillary's words.

[ampad]

35. Normally I would say this sucks

Even for Hillary I mean this is hearsay, no? After watching her last night I say whatever. I hope they produce a tape of her saying it catching her in yet another lie.

[CC]

36. This happened in 1995 and it is a big deal

now? No wonder I decided to sit this one out and not pick one of the two candidates to work for in PA. Where are the grown ups? Can we bring one back already please.

Both these candidates are making it hard for me to convince wavering repukes to vote for which ever one is the Dem nominee.

[backscatter712]

37. Hope we see more of Screw-em-gate. The ABC "debate" pushed it off the top of the headlines.

Let's hope the MSM picks this story back up.

[Zachstar]

39. I agree. Looks like it is slowly coming back but it needs to be discussed.

[quantass]

38. K&R

[redqueen]

41. .

:kick:

[meow mix]

42. K&R

[StevieM]

43. Screw'em=gate is just another media lie. They shouldn't be covering this disnohest claim

but they will do anything to elect Obama.

Steve

[Zachstar]

48. Media lie?

I thought it was a book

[Oilwellian]

44. The full quote.....

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

The statement -- which author Benjamin Barber witnessed and wrote about in his book, "The Truth of Power: Intellectual Affairs in the Clinton White House" -- was prompted by another speaker raising the difficulties of reaching "Reagan Democrats." It stands in stark contrast to the attitude the New York Democrat has recently taken on the campaign trail, in which she has presented herself as the one candidate who understands the working-class needs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html

This is how the Clintons have operated for years. Anyone who thinks she's a populist is a fool.

[Zachstar]

45. Thanks for posting that!

That is a very harsh statement coming from Clinton.

[PM7nj]

47. I didn't like it when they did it to Obama, I don't like it when they do it to Hillary...

Sure, it makes me smile at first and feel a little better. It exposes Hillary's hypocrisy. But, in the end... does this help anyone get health care or get us out of Iraq? I am so sick of this campaign.

[Zachstar]

50. Hate to say it but yes.

This race has become so damaging to democrats that McCain is making HUGE gains.

So yes if it means that Clinton is exposed and she finally exits so we can start working on the GE then that means it helps us finally get out of Iraq because it reduces the chance of McCain sneaking in while Clinton and Obama tear each other apart.

Also it tells the republicans Obama is not going to stand by while crap is thrown.

You want to stick with the issues we stick with the issues... You want to throw mud we are going to load a mud cannon.

[tekisui]

49. Also ona conference call, Wolfson was asked about Bill's pardons and commutations

and whether HIllary agreed with them. He stumbled and said he didn't knwo what Hillary's position was.

[Zachstar]

51. Um is it not their job to know most if not all the positions the candidate and his/her opponent has?

[ecstatic]

52. WTF isn't this all over the news?!

If Obama said that it would be!

[Zachstar]

53. Go to the contact page on the major media websites and the AP and ask them to report it!

[Zachstar]

54. Kick

:kick:

[TwilightGardener]

55. Imagine what the GOP will do with this quote.

[Zachstar]

59. They will Win. As once combined with everything else. McCain would win by a landslide.

Thankfully tho Clinton stands little chance of getting the nomination at this point.

[MonkeyFunk]

57. A 7-year old report

of a 13-year old quote, reported second-hand.

LOL! That's what you guys are pinning your hopes on now?

[Zachstar]

58. If it is pointless then why do you care?

Nice try at damage control!

But you fail

[mrreowwr_kittty]

60. We know, MonkeyFunk, it's always different when it's Hillary.

Obama has to answer for some people who were militant radicals back when he was 8 but there's a statute of limitations when it comes to Her Majesty.

Ah, who are we kidding? There's no statute even! It's ALWAYS okay when Hillary does it! :eyes:

[SKKY]

61. No, we're pinning our hopes on the fact that HRC needs to win 70%...

...of the remaining delegates to overtake Obama. Which, baring some fundamental change in math, is not going to happen.

[TankLV]

62. only in YOUR mind...what the fuck are you talking about?

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[Tarheel_Dem]

63. shouldn't you be out banging pots & pans somewhere?

[ClayZ]

66. K and R * YAY *

[Tarheel_Dem]

67. kick

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[quantass]

69. kick