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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:43 AM
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Official ABC Thank You Thread!
Thanks for finally vetting our leading candidate!

George, I wish you had not turned on Bill in the end....

But, I still respect your knowledge and experience when it comes to being in the Oval Office!

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:47 AM
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1. Thank you, ABC
for ignoring the concerns of too many people in my small town. thanks for ignoring that they're having trouble feeding their families, and that the Food Shelf is necessary to more and more of them. Thank you for focusing on flag pins and Ayers. Thanks for the right wing frame. thanks for feeding the fucking idiots in our party who are so desperate to see hillary win that they're willing to buy into the freeper crap you generated.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:22 AM
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61. agreed, cali. my town is in trouble and all they can do is this? Fuck
ABC. also, anyone who thinks anything in this is a good thing (other than the cute asides about vetting obama) needs their head examined. No one was served here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:48 AM
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:49 AM
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3. in extention you're thanking hannity for writing george's debate questions...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:57 AM
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17. YEs, of course. Tnank you Sean Hannity, the human shaped penis.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:50 AM
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4. are you worried about your capital gains tax, too?
you and millionaire-Charlie.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:51 AM
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5. Right wing talk radio was thanking ABC this morning, too...
It was amazing.

"That was the best debate I ever heard," said one caller to the Bill Bennett show. "They really stuck with the questions! And when he told Obama that cutting the capital gains rate got even more money, he couldn't even say anything!"

They were gleeful. They think this is journalism. It'll be interesting to see how many DUers agree.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:51 AM
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6. Two thousand posts in two months?
How the fuck do you manage that, anyway? Do you have no life?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 AM
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33. Planning now....
for that $100 donation.....

So many good causes to choose from.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
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50. ha.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:52 AM
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7. Isn't it amazing the reaction from DU?
I am stunned. Since the election started DU has cheered the media when they attack unfairly a candidate. They cheered when Tweety and Timmy set up Clinton and attacked her. They said she was fair game, what a baby, how can she run the oval office if she can't take the heat of a silly debate.

I guess it is not a free press that they want, but a press that attacks Clinton and coddles Obama.

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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:52 AM
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8. Damn! over 2000 posts since Feb.?
You've been a very busy girl.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:53 AM
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9. et tu, Brutus ?
And did you praise them when they ran the controversial "Path to 9-11" that blamed Bill Clinton? So soon some folks forget. These people are not your friend. Get it?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:55 AM
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12. They will never be "my friend."
Or Mr. Obama's.

Get it?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:28 AM
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39. So why are you praising them??
Did you forget what they did to Hillary's husband in "Pathway to 9-11"? You seem to trust them?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:34 AM
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44. No. I remember it well.
And that is why I know our next Prez better be tough. And it is high time he had a taste of real politics. Because, if he gets the nomination... this will go on 24/7. And if he moves into the oval office it will be even worse than that!

I just heard Lionel tell a caller: "Politics is bloodsport: grow up and grow a pair."

That's about the size of it, my friend. And I want to win!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:48 AM
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51. Yes. Chop off his legs now...
So he will be able to run when he goes up against our "real" competition. Makes a lot of sense.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:54 AM
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10. He is our leading candidate.
And he needs a taste of real life as a Dem. Prez.

It is good to see how well he handles that kind of scrutiny. Whether we like it or not.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:54 AM
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11. Thank you ABC for ignoring issues important to Pennsylvanians!
Clearly who wears lapel pins and who has sketchier acquaintances is the solution to our problems here in Philly!

Funny, 'cause I thought that crime, unemployment and an infrastructure teetering on the edge were our real problems.

Silly me.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 AM
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16. Having a presidental candidate that can withstand media scrutiny
trumps all of those things.

Cuz Mr. Obama will not be able to address them, until he is elected.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:00 AM
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 AM
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27. If we had a media that didn't manufacture bullshit "issues"...
We wouldn't need a candidate who can withstand them.

I'm frankly sick of electing candidates based on their ability to better withstand attack-style politics, rather than their ability to solve problems that are killing Americans.

You should be too.

We should all be taking a stand and demanding substance from these so-called "journalists".

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:02 AM
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30. I am sick of it.
But.... it ain't going away.

There is no point in spending our primary season in lala land.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:27 AM
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37. If this is something that you, yourself are "sick of"...
Why criticize others for speaking out against it?

:shrug:
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:31 AM
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42. Because this is real life.
It is not *my* fantasy. There are no faeries or angels here.

I'll quote Lionel now: "Politics are bloodsport. Grow up and grow a pair."

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM
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45. Forgive some of us for wanting to change that...
For wanting to make politics work for the country, rather than tear it apart.

Politics is currently a bloodsport, but they haven't always been so bloody, and don't have to be now.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:39 AM
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47. How far back in American History
do you need to go... to find a time when politics was kind and gentle?

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM
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49. Not "kind and gentle", but "productive" versus "destructive"
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:46 AM by Kristi1696
And for that, not so far back. Basically, just take the wayback machine to before the genesis of cable news and I think you'll find more than a few examples.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:52 AM
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52. Have you read about...
JFK/LBJ?

John Adams?

Brutal, my friend. Brutal.

I'll agree that cable news isn't helping. But... make no mistake... American politics have always been brutal. We just knew less about it, as a population.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:55 AM
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13. I second that thank you.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:55 AM
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14. Fuck You ABC. Drag Mickey Mouse into the public sqare and hang the rat
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 AM
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15. Nobody hates Democrats more than Clinton supporters.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:57 AM
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18. You know that's a ridiculous statement...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 AM
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28. Shh. Go cheer Hannity some more.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:30 AM
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41. wooops...another ridiculous statement...
this is DEMOCRATIC underground your blogging on.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 AM
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21. We love the Dem party, actually....
And we want a candidate that can win in November.

Period.

Not a god. Not a hero. Not a prince.

A viable candidate. That's what we ask for. It should not be too much to ask.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 AM
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26. And so as the majority of people have picked a candidate, with the national polls
showing the trend against Clinton continuing, you want the more "viable" candidate. How elitist, non?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:52 AM
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57. Then why do you support Clinton?
Poll after poll shows her as being the most unlikable viable candidate in modern election history. How can Clinton win when over 50% of the country hates her?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 AM
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22. Do you really mean that? For instance, I'm a Clinton supporter. Are you saying I hate Democrats?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 AM
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:02 AM
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29. No we're not. Why would you even say something like that?
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:07 AM
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31. Some of you BO folk have totally lost it, you really think that
if we don't vote for your guy we are Republicans? You guys have used every excuse in the book. That's why 38% of Hillarys supporters say they won't vote for BO. You slime and degrade anyone for him.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:12 AM
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32. "38% of Hillarys supporters say they won't vote for BO" - And there you have it.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:25 AM
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36. that doesn't make them Repugs. Are the 19% BO folk against Hillary Repugs?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 AM
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19. I think the debate was a travesty and an insult to BOTH candidates
They wasted the first hour on useless, rehashed RW crap. I'm STILL waiting for questions on the unitary executive, the SCOTUS, the Patriot Act, investigation of the Bush administration, the telecomms and any number of issues that no one has asked about.

Anyone who thinks this was a useful and fair "debate", as opposed to tabloid "gotcha" journalism has become totally blinded by partisanship. If you approve of the same ol' biased media focusing on useless sleaze and slime issues, then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution, IMO.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 AM
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20. ABC helped turn Obama's lemons to lemonade.. Obama did a fantastic job..
Even though they tried to tear him down.. It did not work.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:59 AM
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24. I hope this is correct.
I hope the public perceives it this way. If they do... we will know he can take the heat.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:51 AM
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56. You are 100% correct. Check his poll numbers in a few days. It's over. He won.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:18 AM
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34. You sound very bitter.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:19 AM
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35. Nope.
Realistically hopeful.

Your man is about to win me over.

Don't blow it for him with your arrogance.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:28 AM
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38. Thank you ....finally some balance
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:29 AM
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40. Awesome ...
A thread that consolidates all my future ignores.





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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:32 AM
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43. Yes, thanks ABC
for treating the viewers like idiots. I do understand that you were trying to compete with American Idol in the same time slot.
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM
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46. Thank you ABC
for nothing.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:40 AM
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48. lemme guess
You're thanking them for pathway to 9-11 right? And Scaife who started the witch-hunt that Hillary called "the vast RW conspiracy" (and I agreed with her btw) Is now friends with her. What short memories you guys over there have. Lemme clue you in on something. THE AUDIENCE BOOED THE MODERATORS FOR A REASON. NOt because they are Obama supporters but because THEY ASKED STUPID QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISSUES THAT AFFECT AMERICANS. YEah. stupid questions like Bosnia and Rev Wright. But hey..anything to make you feel validated.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:35 AM
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53. It's sad
that we're all so used to seeing Barack treated with kid gloves that when we see him being treated the way Hillary has been treated all along we feel the need to thank somebody.

But yeah, THANKS ABC for doing your job!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:38 AM
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54. I sent a thank you last night. Also said they should have cut
the first part shorter.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:49 AM
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55. Thanks ABC!
What took you so long?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:52 AM
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58. Thanks for nothing
A real debate would have been good.
But as we are probably not going to get any such thing we have to deal with this one.
And yes - this crapfest was a good preparation for the GOP "debates" in October.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:54 AM
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59. I did not think that this was any worse than, or different from others
Of course they will ask about lapel pin - with which I have no problem but, apparently, many voters do.

Asking about Iraq, immigration, health care? They don't differ much in their proposals and most voters' eyes would glaze over if they start getting into the details of their health care plans.

Most voters get fired up over the usual code words of abortion, gay marriage, guns, etc.

And since it was Obama who raised these issues first, they were fair topic.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:55 AM
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60. You could be thanking them for President McCain.
Any Democrat who thinks it's wonderful to trash a fellow Democrat to the foolish extent of that faux debate, is more Republican than Democrat. Fucking lapel pins? We fucking deserve McCain.
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