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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:08 PM
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Chelsea's future father-in-law due to be released from prison this month
Here's one big fat scandal which the GOP are sitting on in hopes that HRC is the Dem candidate.
Chelsea is rumored, in both London and NYC, to be engaged to her boy-friend, Mark Mezvinsky. ABC covered this last December, but I missed it then, and the GOP's not pushing it now - saving it for later.

Mark's father is former congressman, Ed Mezvinsky, who initially pled innocent by reason of insanity, but later pled guilty to 31 of 69 fraud-related counts. On Sept. 27,2002, he admitted that he bilked investors who handed over more than $10 million, including friends, law clients and even his late mother-in-law, and was sentenced to nearly 7 years in prison. Some try to paint this as though he was the victim of scams. It started out that way, with him losing his own money - but then he kept doubling down and losing money of any one he could talk into "investing" with him.

FIRST: Are they engaged? Or about to be? Perhaps putting off announcing it while it could hurt "Mom's" campaign?
http://nymag.com/realestate/movers/44185/
Clinton’s Boyfriend Relocates Near Chelsea
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By S.Jhoanna Robledo Published Feb 14, 2008


(Photo: Gregory Bull/AP)

If the gossips are to be believed and Chelsea Clinton is indeed engaged to Goldman Sachs banker Marc Mezvinsky, then we can expect a sighting around the Shake Shack in the near future. A source says Mezvinsky, who according to some reports has been friends with the former First Daughter since the two were teens, has bought a 2,000-square-foot, three-bedroom condo in the Flatiron district that’s priced at about $3.8 million. Mezvinsky, the son of former Iowa congressman (and current incarcerated felon) Edward Mezvinsky, apparently toured the place with Clinton, suggesting that he sought her approval before signing off on the purchase. Assuming the deal goes through, it would end what appears to have been a protracted search on Mezvinsky’s part; a source claims the two toured various downtown properties last fall. As for Chelsea herself, at present she lives a few blocks away, somewhere in the vicinity of Gramercy Park.
Next: Heiress Barbara Hutton's Former Riverside Drive Apartment"

(Say voters, isn't that special? A $3.8 MILLION little starter apt. for the young couple? Does the word "elite" spring to mind???)

SECOND: How close were the Clintons and the Mezvinskys? Marc interned in Clinton's White House. So he was at Ground Zero for the whole Lewinsky/impeachment scandal - and with his own father in prison, easy to see that Chelsea would feel comfortable with him - he wouldn't be judgmental of HER parents.

media.www.dailyiowan.com/media/storage/paper599/news/2002/09/30/Nation/Far-From.His.Heyday.Mezvinsky
(I can't fit the whole link's cite in here. Go to what I have and enter "Mezvinsky" into their search function. It will link to this article.)
"He boasted to many victims for example, of a close personal relationship with President and Mrs. Clinton andof his son's friendship with Chelsea Clinton at Stanford University," Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Zauzmer wrote in the 133 page plea agreement.

From the Telegraph:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/28/whills28.xml

Even here, there is potential embarrassment. Miss Clinton's boyfriend - and soon-to-be-husband, if the tabloids are to be believed - is Marc Mezvinsky, 29, a former intern in her father's White House who now works for Goldman Sachs.

His parents were also Democratic politicians and family friends of the Clintons, but Mr Mezvinsky's father Ed, a former congressman, is serving six years in jail for fraud offences he committed to recoup losses in a Nigerian scam.

Given that the Clintons were dogged by allegations of financial impropriety over the Whitewater land deal, IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT SEN CLINTON'S FOES WILL REFRAIN FROM MAKING CAPITAL OF THE FACT THAT HER DAUGHTER'S PROSPECTIVE FATHER-IN-LAW IS BEHIND BARS FOR FRAUD. (my emphasis added)
Sen Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, also faces financial and legal trouble, accused of failing to repay $107,000 (£54,600) in loans from a carnival company whose owners received pardons from Mr Clinton when he was president."

THIRD: So where is Ed Mezvinsky now? Serving time or about to be released? In either case, out in time to attend a glorious White House wedding and spend time in the Lincoln Bedroom. Maybe Bill can hire him for a highpaying job with the Clinton Foundation.
According to Wikipedia, he was scheduled for release on April 12, 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Mezvinsky
Mezvinsky unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for United States Senate from Pennsylvania in 1980, losing to Peter F. Flaherty. He then became chairman of the Pennsylvania Democratic State Committee before making a failed run for state attorney general in 1988. He won the Democratic primary, but lost to Republican Ernie Preate in the general election. He also unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for lieutenant governor in 1990, losing to incumbent Mark Singel.

In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud. Nearly $10 million was involved in the crimes. According to the BOP's Inmate Locator he is due to be released from federal prison on April 12, 2008<1>.


However, another site says he is scheduled for release in November of 2008
http://congressionalbadboys.com/Mezvinsky.htm
Edward M. Mezvinsky
Democrat, Iowa (1973-1976)

"The Honorable Edward M. Mezvinsky, was a back-bencher Congressman from Iowa for two terms. His biggest claim to fame was that he was on the House Judiciary Committee when it voted to impeach Nixon in 1974. In all fairness to Iowans, he didn't do anything wrong while a congressman. That came later when he was in Pennsylvania. Later, he was prosecuted for soliciting cash for fraudulent pyramid schemes in the 1980s. He collected millions of dollars for business deals that never materialized, including an oil deal, a coin trading company, and efforts to sell bracelets in Africa. Mezvinsky even fell victim to several Nigerian investment scams and lost much of the money he had borrowed.

The Jailbird Count: six years in prison for defrauding business associates, friends and family; pleaded guilty to 31 counts of fraud. Scheduled release: November 2008

Stalled career: Mezvinsky's wife, Marjorie Margolis-Mezvinsky, a former television reporter, served a term in Congress, then ran unsuccessfully for Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor, then dropped out of the 2000 Pennsylvania Senate race.

The Chelsea Clinton connection: Chelsea's current squeeze is 27-year-old New York banker Marc Mezvinsky, son of BadBoy Ed and Marjorie."


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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:09 PM
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1. Yes, we should all be held accountable for the actions of our in-laws
This is just ridiculous.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:14 PM
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33. Errr, this is a little different. He's not her in-law yet, and just like pastors (as HRC would say)
we can choose our in-laws. Anyway, sounds like dad-in-law would make a great addition to the Clinton family. Maybe he's counting on Hillary to win and he'll get a pardon.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:33 PM
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35. Errr, no...
We do NOT choose our in-laws! That is crass and shallow... we choose someone to love, honor and cherish, when we do it right. Choosing a mate based on their parents is not a very thoughtful way to start a marriage. If you love someone and you choose NOT to marry them because of their parents... ugh... that is wrong on so many levels.

You should read Romeo and Juliet...


'Tis but thy name that is my enemy.
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face. O, be some other name
Belonging to a man.
What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet.
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo called,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name;
And for thy name, which is no part of thee,
Take all myself.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:10 PM
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2. this kind of shit's beneath us and I really wish I wasn't looking at it
no rec
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:11 PM
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3. Jeez, I didn't know anyone with an IQ above a goldfish ever actually fell for
those Nigerian investment schemes. All I can say is I hope the apple rolled a long way from the tree.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:11 PM
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4. That's just lame
Attacking a candidate because of her daughter's fiance's father?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:14 PM
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10. It's not even confirmed he is her fiance. n/t

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:12 PM
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5. Guilt by association
is kind of ridiculous here. Neither Chelsea or her boyfriend are running for public office.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:12 PM
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6. ONLY in political/uber-rich circles does something like this happen
in real life when a family member gets busted, people lose houses, lose status, lose jobs, become the town laughingstock..and families NEVER live down the shame..

In the rarified air of the super rich, someone may go to Club Fed for a while, but life goes on for the family.. they keep the houses, the money and the status..their kids still get to go to college and go on to prosperous lives & 3.8 million condos..


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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:26 PM
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17. That's a major point of this, along with HRC's brother's ongoing
legal problems around his wheeling-dealing with getting money for pardons for some associates - one of the reasons people wanted to see HRC's appointment calendars re her brother's visits to the WH just as Bill was signing pardons.

There's also the issue of HRC calling Obama "elitist".

As the British paper said, the link to fraud (Whitewater, cattle futures, etc.), and bragging about his friendship with the Clintons to sucker people into investing with him WILL be played up. You are right, SoCalDem, that in the circles of the super rich, there is no stigma to this. These are all known facts - they don't bother Chelsea or her boyfriend or their friends. They do not care what we un-rich think of them. But the GOP will make great hay with many voters with this.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:13 PM
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7. what kind of bullshit is this
Fucking Obama supporters sinking to new lows here
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:13 PM
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8. In a week full of pathetic posts on GDP -- you just lapped the field.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 02:13 PM by onenote
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:14 PM
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9. Meh, this is like Rezco baloney nt
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:15 PM
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11. Another bullshit anti-Clinton thread.
:eyes:
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:16 PM
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12. I like Chelsea Clinton. She had to
endure, in public, what a fair percentage of the masses go through privately - or at the very least, humiliation was only community-wide. She has much grace and poise for her age - a credit, no doubt, to her parents.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:28 PM
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18. And is a hard worker.
Credit goes to her parents who raised her to be a productive person regardless of her status in life. So many children of the rich and famous are just plain irresponsible, cruel, and corrupt. Chelsea your OK in my book.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:32 PM
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20. Interesting side note -
look at John Edwards' children; John Kerry's children. Now, look at bush's children - and where the heck are McCain's children?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:51 PM
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27. Two of them are in the military
Marines and Navy. The younger daughter, adopted from the Bangladesh orphanage run by Mother Teresa, is still at home.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:00 PM
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31. I knew about the younger daughter and one
in the military, but didn't know he'd two enlisted. Thank you.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:38 PM
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38. McCain may have more than one family
Most his second family are young.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:38 PM
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39. The first family children may be older but the second too young.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:16 PM
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13. Chelsea's engaged?
I never heard that...did not even know she had a boyfriend. In any event, this seems stupid...guilt by association.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:16 PM
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14. They might but I doubt it would work. In fact the backlash would probably be immense.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:18 PM
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15. I think Hillary and Bill are total shitheads...
....but I would not even tar Chelsea with that. This is mega bullshit about her possible father-in-law. Not to say that the creepy, sick Pubbies would sling this kind of mud, tho.

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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:23 PM
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16. At this point, I feel sorry for them, but
they had to have done SOMETHING right if Chelsea is anything to judge by. Now, they need to exit - both of them.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:40 PM
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24. I will and can congratulate then on Chelsea. She is great and...
...yeah, time to take their parental bows, say good-bye and go home!

:hi:
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:30 PM
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19. I can't stand Hillary at the moment but I really don't get the relevance of this.
Given Rezco and Wright though I guess the era of guilt by association is fully upon us. The art of thinking is in grave danger.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:35 PM
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21. A congressman fell for a Nigerian scam?
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 02:39 PM by MattBaggins
Face meet palm

By the way that's all I take from this. Dad ---> Son ---> Chelsea ---> to Hillary just does not compute.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:35 PM
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22. Out of bounds
I don't care if the GOP will bring it up or not - we shouldn't be doing that. Period.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:37 PM
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23. This OP brought to you by Enquirer magazine and the Obama campaign. Nope no sleaze here. n/t
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:58 PM
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30. I guess you've missed pretty much every response slamming this OP
But don't let that get in the way.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:25 AM
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44. hey posts come fast and furious here so I won't let that
stop me from posting. But thanks for your concern, really thanks. :crazy:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:44 PM
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25. Lame.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:45 PM
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26. Congrats!
You got your 3 recs! :eyes:
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:55 PM
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28. I suspect Chelsea is closer to Mezvinsky's mom:
from Wikikpedia:

Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky (Born June 21, 1942) was a Democratic member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Pennsylvania.

Marjorie Margolies was born in Philadelphia. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1963. Their son, Marc Mezvinsky is currently dating Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of former President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. She is a five-time Emmy Award winner and CBS News Foundation Fellow, Columbia University, and worked as a television journalist at WCAU-TV from 1967 to 1971, and then with NBC from 1971 to 1991. In 1998, she ran for Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania as the running mate of Ivan Itkin, but the ticket lost to Republicans Tom Ridge and Mark S. Schweiker.

She was elected in 1992 as a Democrat to the 103rd Congress. She was one of 34 Democratic incumbents who were defeated in the Republican Revolution of 1994. Her defeat was blamed on her vote for President Clinton' controversial 1993 budget, for which she was the deciding vote. That same year, she completed her autobiography, A Woman's Place. After her term in Congress, she was the Chair of the National Women’s Business Council, and the Director and Deputy Chair of the United States delegation to the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in 1995.

She currently serves as the founder and chair of Women’s Campaign International (WCI), a group that provides advocacy training for women throughout the world. She is also a professor at the Fels Institute of Government at the University of Pennsylvania.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 02:57 PM
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29. marked for future ref....
eom
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:09 PM
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32. That is just horrible
poor Chelsea can't even have a life of her own.

I hate that we try to hurt each other over such sickening things.

Screw it then we're all guilty by association of someone else's crime. I'm pretty sure that my daughters ex boyfriend ended up in prison for something. Yikes :eyes:
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:24 PM
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34. This is an auful post. I support Obama and am no fan of HC,
but this is just wrong. Your a jerk for posting this shit.
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LiveLiberally Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 03:34 PM
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36. I'd let this SINK, but I'm hoping MORE will chime in & register their disgust...
of this specious flamebait -- no matter which candidate you support.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 04:59 PM
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37. ugh
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:55 AM
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40. We need a full investigation of Hillary's daughter's fiance's father's pastor, too
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 04:58 AM by Jim Lane
I mean, how else can we judge the Clinton candidacy?

Times (and GD: P) being what they are, I suppose some people will miss my point, so let me spell it out: I oppose Hillary Clinton, but this attack on her is utterly ridiculous.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:12 AM
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41. Sheesh, Obamites need to be a little less predictable. The word that
pops into mind is 'pathetic'.

And I don't like either 'candidate'.
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:21 AM
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42. That is so nice!
He will be getting out just in time to see Hillary Concede! I smell a big raucous family party in the making! who else likes moonshine?
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:24 AM
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43. This is a non story.
A bunch of crap. Trying to compare a candidate's daughter's possible fiance's parents to Obama and his Pastor or other associates is ridiculous. Ugh.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:41 AM
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45. This has nothing to do with HRC and SHOULDN'T be used
This is the father of the man that Chelsea may be engaged to. Look how many steps away from HRC that is:

1) On a liberal board are we saying a mother is responsible for who a person in her mid 20s dates or marries?
2) On a liberal board, do we say the sins of the father fall on the son?

Only if you think both answers are yes, should this be an issue. (and I am mad at HRC's behavior yesterday!)
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