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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:43 PM
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If Obama's middle name is brought up again, here's what ALL Democrats must say:
1. He's NOT a Muslim.

2. It wouldn't matter if he was, since MOST Muslims are just ordinary, harmless people living quiet lives like everybody else.

There's NO Excuse for any Democrat bashing Obama on the middle name. To do so is to surrender to hate.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:45 PM
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1. And it was his grandfather's name.
Barack was his dad's name too--so what is more normal than a boy being named for his father and grandfather?

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:46 PM
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2. It also shows extreme ignorance
Either that, or it's a deliberate attempt to stir up xenophobic reactions.

'Hussein' is a VERY common name throughout the world. One of our staunchest allies in the Middle East is King Hussein of Jordan.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:46 PM
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3. What's wrong with pointing out his middle name is Delano?
I just don't see a problem here.;)

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:16 PM
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38. Not Fitzgerald?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:47 PM
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4. Why are you bringing this up?
How is he being bashed about his middle name?
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:48 PM
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7. Larry Johnson
Check out the title on this post and tell me why it was linked to Saddam Hussein.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:55 PM
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9. Well he shouldn't have linked his name
that's unfair, but if this is true, Obama's got more worries than someone misusing his middle name:

"Here’s the bottomline. Auchi, who some claim was a money man for Saddam Hussein, sent money to the Rezko family. Said funds in turn were used by Tony Rezko’s wife to help the Obama’s buy their house (she paid for a vacant lot that enabled the Obama’s to qualify for the loan they could afford at the time).

Susan UnPC put up a great story on the Auchi-Rezko-Obama ties in February. And we already know, thanks to the Times of London, that Auchi’s Panamanian company sent money into Obama’s political coffers. At a minimum, looks like Barack has got some more “splaining” to do."

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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:58 PM
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12. Show me matching serial #s on the $$$$
and I'll believe you.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:10 AM
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20. I'm not accusing him of anything,
but even if the connections are dubious, they will be used against him in the GE. (I'm going to try to find more info from other sources before I jump to any conclusions)
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:46 AM
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25. This is a typical smear
At least (most of) the mainstream media vetts its sources completely before publishing something like this. I hope Larry Johnson and Taylor Marsh carry liability insurance in case someone wants to sue them for libel someday.
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That Guy 888 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:39 AM
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24. My problem is with the phrase "some claim"
All too often it's used as a way to get a smear in on a candidate. Turd-blossom or a surrogate would leek some untrue rumor "off the record" to a reporter, who would publish it, which in turn would allow the leaker to claim "some people say". I don't want to develop a knee-jerk reaction to the phrase, but it does make me reach for the bullshit detector.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:57 PM
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10. Larry Johnson? "100% wrong" Larry Johnson?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:00 AM
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14. egads...
I didn't know that the link was to his site. Those people are vile.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:01 AM
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15. Your camp is using the idea that the GOP will bring it up again as a case to stop the Obama movement
and impose your candidate instead. That's why.

HRC needs to stand up and say that Obama's middle name shouldn't be an issue. She owes the party that.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:21 AM
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22. Stop the Obama movement!
He's a politician running for office, he's not the Dali Lama for godssakes. The GOP WILL use it against him, they'll use his past cocaine use, they'll use William Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright, the New Black Panthers, lapel flag pins, they'll use God Damn America, they'll use Michelle's "first time I'm proud" comment. They're RWers and they'll use anything.

Hillary doesn't have to protect Obama from the GOP using his own middle name. She's not his mother. If that's all it takes for my candidate to impose herself on the country, I'd say that Obama should step down now and spare us all the drama.




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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:59 AM
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32. Obama's the candidate who brought new people into the party.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 12:02 PM by Ken Burch
Those new people need to be encouraged and kept in. Destroying their candidate is the same thing as saying we don't want them.
They aren't going to back your candidate if she's imposed as if the nomination was just hers by liege right.

It's about the new blood. Only one campaign this year brought new people in. We can't win on just the old-timer(a group which includes me).

The HRC campaign's arguement for staying in (the "the bashing HELPS the party" lie) sometimes sounds like stuff Martha said to George in WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? "You can stand it...you married me for it!".

If your candidate is nominated, young people will all feel like they did when Humphrey was forced through in Chicago. Don't you understand that we can't afford that?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:03 PM
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36. you don't want the voters to decide it?
you'd prefer him to just step down and end it now without letting them decide?
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:48 PM
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5. I just say: John W McCain.. stops them dead!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:13 AM
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27. his mddle name is Sidney, not Wayne
:D
(that's a meme on rightwing nutjob radio here - Barack Hussein Obama vs John Wayne McCain :puke:)
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:48 PM
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6. I usually say, "Well, if someone's name is David, does that mean they think like David Duke?"
SOURCE: I borrowed this line from Fr Michael Pfleger
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:50 PM
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8. I agree with you, but there's no excuse for BO's supporters to
bash Hillary for no reason either but it happens constantly..Just rampant hateful posts. People on DU don't seem to understand that all elections get a little rough. That's politics, and they take it as personal insults.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:42 AM
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28. OMFG, you are a pistol.
You completely and utterly contradicted yourself in that statement. You probably have no idea what I'm talking about either.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:57 PM
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11. That's his name... end of story.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:59 PM
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13. I changed my middle name to Hussein.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:02 AM
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16. And besides, the "H" in Jesus H. Christ...
also stands for Hussein, or so I've been told.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:04 AM
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17. Really? I always thought it was "Heskowitz"!
Given that he was a very nice Jewish boy.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:07 AM
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18. What I tell people
is they need to figure out if they want to blast hi over his middle name or Rev. Wright.

Amazingly that puts them on the defensive, except the true Bushites who cannot comprehend the contradiction of their attacks. (but they are clearly morons anyways.)
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:08 AM
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19. Give it a week and Hillary will start using it.
As far as I know.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:12 AM
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21. Hannity: why CAN'T we bring up his middle name?!?111!?!?11111one
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 12:12 AM by PseudoIntellect
It disgusts me when he does that. His agenda is so obvious that it amazes me so many still don't understand it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:28 AM
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23. Agreed. Despicable practice, even for those who don't like Obama. nt
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:06 PM
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35. Thanks.
n/t.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:48 AM
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26. They must say one of two things:
1. Barack Hussein Obama, Junior

2. John Sidney McCain the Third
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gear_head Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:15 AM
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29. becoming an ex-Muslim. how to?
how is that done?

renounce Allah?

show up in some other religion's building?

someting else?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:27 AM
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30. What are you talking about?
Please elaborate on how becoming an ex-Muslim is relevant to Senator Obama.
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gear_head Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:06 AM
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31. Obama was raised in what church?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 07:06 AM by gear_head
I have been led lead to believe
Obama started attending a Christian church
at the age of 25 or so.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:29 PM
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33. Ok so how does that make him a muslim?
Please explain. This is fascinating.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:34 PM
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34. I am not bothered at all by his middle name. Just say, if your middle name is so good
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 05:34 PM by kwenu
why aren't you running for President? Loser.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 05:05 PM
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37. Remind whatever moron brings it up that King Hussein was our great ally. nt
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