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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:00 AM
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Clinton: "During the 1990s..average Americans didn't have to go around looking for someone to blame"

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1688794,00.html

Immigration: The Hottest Issue
Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2007 By JOE KLEIN

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There are signs of festering intolerance even among Democratic audiences, noticeably in Iowa, which has seen a surge of Latino immigration in recent years. The Democratic candidates are uniformly in favor of comprehensive immigration reform, including a path to citizenship for those who have entered the country illegally. But they receive sharp — pointed — applause when they say illegals should "have to speak English" before becoming citizens. When I asked Hillary Clinton about that, she said she'd noticed it too and added, "During the 1990s, I cannot remember being asked about immigration... Why? Because the economy was working... And average Americans didn't have to go around looking for someone to blame."

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:01 AM
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1. What? She's such an elitist......
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:03 AM
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3. scheming-You are so funny,
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:03 AM
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2. Yeah and NAFTA didn't have *anything* to do with the upsurge in immigration.
Nope... not a thing.

Really.

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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:16 AM
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5. How did Nafta effect immigration?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:21 AM
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6. Not exactly breaking news... sickening that she ignores it to slam Obama.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 11:25 AM by redqueen
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:06 AM
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4. Isn't she saying what she criticized Obama for saying?
average Americans are bitter and looking for someone to blame?

Somebody more eloquent than I should expand on this theme.
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JasonHill Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:22 AM
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7. Of course she is
not just saying they're bitter, but that they're actually placing "blame" on immigrants as a scapegoat.

Now, i wonder if she will come out and apologize for her characterization of Obama now that there is a source showing she forgot that, well, "she was for it before she was against it"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:22 AM
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8. Such a fucking elitist.
:rofl:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:46 AM
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9. K&R -- Hillary's hypocracy is so transparent
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raffaello Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:50 AM
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10. by the way, Obama lied about PA jobs during the Clinton years
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 11:54 AM by raffaello
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:52 AM
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11. Didn't we change the way we count the unemployed?
I'm pretty sure we now just count those who are looking for work. Those who have given up become invisible.

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:04 PM
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13. Is that chart for manufacturiong jobs?
No?

Then is it not germaine to the argument.

The argument is about high-paying factory jobs that went away, not the Wal-Mart jobs that replaced them.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:28 PM
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18. Yup - unemployment vs underemployment
Lose a job at a manufacturing plant but replace it with a job at the local car wash and say things are just fine? :shrug:
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:54 AM
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12. Now she tows the republican line and blames progressives. eom
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:13 PM
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14. She's damaging our cause by advancing RW frames.
NGU.


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:19 PM
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15. Elitist! KICK!
:kick:
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:25 PM
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16. More of that "See? See all the great things my husband did?"
"Don't worry, though...I totally disagree with all the bad stuff that happened."
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:27 PM
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17. Yep
Temporary economic fixes to deep social and cultural problems, all left to fester.
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