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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:43 PM
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I did a search at the DLC on "elitist"...I found this about DU from 2003. Ha Ha.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:46 PM by madfloridian
I had been very upset about the Clinton campaign calling Barack Obama an "elitist".
It has angered me more than anything else has. The centrist Democrats have used such terms against those of us who were outsiders...for years. Fringe, elite, etc.

I did a search at the DLC website on the term "elitist", and I found this jewel of an article from 2003. There is almost no one left to insult. :-)

Caucuses like Iowa's are briar patches where born and bred activists flourish. They are run according to complex procedures, and they exclude independents. The arrival of the Internet has provided a powerful set of tools for activists to get organized well in advance of the already front-loaded nominating season -- a period when, almost by definition, activists are the only ones focused on politics. Using the Internet, Dean has achieved a virtual mind meld with those activists by capitalizing on their visceral hatred of President Bush and disdain for moderate Democrats. When all is said and done, the new dynamic could lead Democrats right into the hands of President Bush, who wants nothing more than a liberal Democratic opponent

...."But there is also another, simpler explanation for why fringe groups would be using the Internet better than mainstream campaigns: "Because they have to," said Fose, McCain's Internet manager.

Certainly, the fringes of the political spectrum are active online on heavily trafficked discussion boards such as the left-wing democraticunderground.com and the right-wing freerepublic.com. Dean's fiery message resonates in the left-wing haunts. He is the favorite son on democraticunderground.com, according to the site's proprietor, David Allen, and the people posting on that site are an animated bunch. Much of what they post -- about Bush, and about moderate Democrats -- would not be appropriate to repeat here.

But the question remains: It's easy to activate the activists, but what about everyone else?

That will be the real test. Recent political history strongly suggests a liberal protest coalition simply doesn't add up to enough votes for a Democrat to win a national election.

Perhaps the closest parallel to the Dean strategy is the dot-com companies of the late 1990s: Accumulate eyeballs now and fill in the blanks on their business plans later. If, in the end, the early hype and glory of Dean's Internet campaign goes the way of the dot-com bust, then historians may rightly conclude it was for similar reasons.


Nothing but Net

If you do a search on "fringe", "elitist", and or even the word "activist"...you might be surprised at what turns up.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:14 PM
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1. They always seem to want to discredit DU by throwing in
the radical and extreme words at it. To compare us to FreeRepublic as the same but opposite sides of the coin is simply disingenuous. DU is actually, a moderate and left of right site. If it weren't so, it wouldn't have sent as many Green and liberal leftys off looking for more radical message board sites. Actually, I'm an extreme lefty and I can assure you that mainstream DU is very moderate and in normal times would be considered left of center. Even Howard Dean stated that he was left of center, but that our country had pulled over so far to the extreme right, anyone who was center of left looked like radical lefty.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:20 PM
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2. A little free time between sips of your latte, eh?
:hi:

Now excuse me while I go make myself an espresso.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:27 PM
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4. LOL
I will go put on my birkenstocks.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:21 PM
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3. Oh, yeah, we said some bad things while they TORTURED
Yeah, what's worse saying bad things or torturing folks many of whom were innocents
just pulled off the streets, like the Canadian who was "renditioned" at an airport.
What bad things were we saying, the election was stolen, the Iraq War was based on a
lie, that torture is not just a few bad apples but established policy. Too bad they
were too busy labeling us to LISTEN to us.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:43 PM
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6. Yep, too busy labeling to listen.
Thinking up all the names they could.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:08 PM
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10. Yes, but we were right
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 05:09 PM by MissWaverly
US Government stepping all over our rights, who ordered the spying on the Quakers, Rumsfeld, of course, how anyone could see the Quakers as a security threat is beyond me. And yet when we tried to point out the truth, that Petraeus' presentation last September could not be right, we were shouted down, this has been a pattern for the last 8 years. Oh, and Bush is winning the Iraq War by paying 91,000 Iraqis every month not to shoot at us. That's 12 million USDs every month folks*, and if we question that, we're weirdos or something.

I picked up that fact in the Christian Science Monitor, you won't see it in the MSM dribble.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:31 PM
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5. K & R
:thumbsup:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:50 PM
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7. i think i`ll print out some
"i hate latte" stickers....by the way who is "latte"?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:52 PM
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8. He's a librul. And that's his first name...
His last name is Da.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:06 PM
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9. You bet yer ASS I'm an elitist!

...could you pass the Grey Poupon?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:16 PM
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11. "much of what they post about Bush and moderate Democrats"
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 05:18 PM by hfojvt
"would not be fit to repeat here"

Yeah, because the truth might prove embarrassing and sometimes internet writers are prone to use the word "bullsh*t" when describing the excrement of a male bovine that often streams out of the Bush administration and their DLC enablers.
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