Whisky-swilling Hill a not-so-straight shooter

[BeyondGeography]

Clinton Becomes a Gun Lover

CNN reported Saturday that Democratic Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton touted her experience with guns and hunting to a crowd in Indiana:

Hillary Clinton appealed to Second Amendment supporters on Saturday by hinting that she has some experience of her own pulling triggers.

"I disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in our country cling to guns and have certain attitudes about trade and immigration simply out of frustration," she began, referring to the Obama comments on small-town Americans that set off a political tumult on Friday.

She then introduced a fond memory from her youth.

"You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught be how to shoot when I was a little girl," she said.

"You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It's part of culture. It's part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it's an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter."


Clinton said she has hunted ducks.

ABC News later reported that Clinton also visited a restaurant in Crown Point, Indiana to share a shot of whiskey with the locals:

Clinton stood by the bar and took a shot of Crown Royal whiskey. She took one sip of the shot, then another small sip, then a few seconds later threw her head back and finished off the whole thing.
Clinton later sat down at a table and enjoyed some pizza and beer, and called over Mayor Tom McDermott of Hammond, Ind., to come join the table.

"Every time I get around you we start drinking, senator," the mayor exclaimed.

Clinton nodded and raised her glass.

"It's Saturday night, though, Tom," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/12/hillary-becomes-a-gun-lov_n_96396.html

[NanceGreggs]

1. Somebody should tell Hill ...

... that "a president you wanna have a beer with" lost its luster years ago.

[parasim]

13. Much less a president you wanna get wasted with...

Maybe she wants to come across like that Karen Allen character in the first Indiana Jones movie, I dunno... :shrug:

[myrna minx]

19. OK, your post actually made me laugh out loud.

Hillary Clinton: A President who knows how to play quarters. :rofl:

[NanceGreggs]

23. "I always knew that someday you'd come through that door ...

... and ruin my campaign, Indiana Obama."

(Well, actually she obviously didn't know - but that's the magic of the Hollywood re-write!)

[FatDave]

52. LOL

You two have got me trying to figure out who the little Nazi that tries to steal the staff of Ra headpiece is in this analogy.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

55. LOL. You're killing me

Indiana Obama!

[frogcycle]

46. now THERE was a hottie

damn she was something else.

[Mooney]

14. Hillary is a president I want to get blackout drunk with.

[Hepburn]

61. The way she is bolting that stuff down...

...looks like she has had a lot of practice. Manny called her the Britney Spears of Politics ~~ really fits her in those pics.

[anonymous171]

2. Has anyone used the Southern Strategy to win a primary before?

[southlandshari]

4. What is the Southern Strategy?

:shrug:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

[southlandshari]

22. What a novel idea!

x(

[Mooney]

15. She's using the Southern Comfort Strategy.

Now I'm hoping she does the debate drunk.

[Scurrilous]

20. "Southern Comfort Strategy"

LOL :thumbsup:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

25. LOL!

[JVS]

62. It's shameful!

[goclark]

3. I am just not on the same page as Hillary

I really do try to relate to her but somehow she is different.

Do you think she drinks a bit? :crazy:

[southlandshari]

8. Why would you say that?

If you are accusing Hillary Clinton of having a drinking problem, I think you need a bit more evidence.

If you are just joking, I think you need to work on your sense of humor.

I am a strong supporter of Obama, but I see no reason to drop nasty comments like this about Clinton. She deserves better.

[goclark]

24. Just relating what the mayor was saying......

I thought it was a strange thing to say about her when I read it.

It surprised me to see her at the bar taking a drink with the boys.

It was, in my view, totally out of character for her.......


ABC News later reported that Clinton also visited a restaurant in Crown Point, Indiana to share a shot of whiskey with the locals:


Clinton stood by the bar and took a shot of Crown Royal whiskey. She took one sip of the shot, then another small sip, then a few seconds later threw her head back and finished off the whole thing.
Clinton later sat down at a table and enjoyed some pizza and beer, and called over Mayor Tom McDermott of Hammond, Ind., to come join the table.

"Every time I get around you we start drinking, senator," the mayor exclaimed.

Clinton nodded and raised her glass.

"It's Saturday night, though, Tom," she said.

[southlandshari]

27. Fair enough

Thanks for your response. Sigh. I am nonplussed with her actions in this case, just as I would be if it had been Obama or any other candidate for public office.

Sheesh.

:yoiks:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. a slurring voice at 3am - what crisis? hic!

one hand on the red phone and the other on the whiskey glass!

[Mooney]

17. That's what she's doing up at 3am.

I wonder if she and Madeliene Albright will go on package store runs?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. it's a bit worrying for us

drunk in charge of the Red Phone!

[Mooney]

31. It would be entertaining to watch a State of the Union address

delivered by someone with the DT's.

[merh]

36. well, according to Bill she has trouble after 11 pm

"And some of them, when they're 60, they'll forget something when they're tired at 11 at night, too."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5476147

[Rosa Luxemburg]

38. now it all becomes clear

tired hmmmmmmmmm!

[ecstatic]

33. I am starting to wonder

if she's an alcoholic. Her comments these past few months are really mind boggling and offensive to thinking people. I used to think she was really sharp.

[goclark]

42. I mentioned that earlier

I had two friends that reminded me of those photos.

Honestly,those pictures were bringing back bad memories.

We could never stop them from getting totally fascinates with drinking more and more.

Look at Photo #1 - eyes on that drink, can't wait to get to it.

Same look as my girlfriends.

Both died at an early age from Alcohol related illnesses.

[MercutioATC]

5. ..and yet, she supports reinstating the Assault Weapons Ban....

...as big a piece of misguided, uninformed trash legislation as ever existed...

[cliffordu]

6. Later she's going into downtown Indianapolis to

shoot a little heroin with some of the gals. Maybe start a fight.

Ya know, Get her swerve on.

[LaStrega]

43. "Ya know, Get her swerve on."

:rofl:

[NewHampshireDem]

7. :sigh: I asked them to make her stop before she did anything even

more embarassing ... Well, they couldn't, could they?




Right up there with this one:

[cliffordu]

9. ROLF.... I mean ROFL!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[NewHampshireDem]

28. I have to say

I've taken a lot of Schadenfreude in Hillary's tone-deafness this campaign season, but I can't bring myself to do anything but shake my head at this.

I have nothing against hoisting a glass--shot, beer, or otherwise.

I have nothing against a woman doing so--in fact, I fondly recall my 80 year-old grandmother having a toast at a birthday party.

I have nothing against a presidential candidate doing it.

But, for the love of god, WHO IS HILLARY CLINTON? Will the REAL Hillary Clinton please stand up?

[BeyondGeography]

32. I know you have the pole dancing shots

stop holding out on us, NH Dem.

[NewHampshireDem]

35. Eww ...

I think Taylor Marsh has them ... They're going to be the cover of her next book: "My Second Year in Smut: The Internet Escapades inside Hillary's Campaign".

[BeyondGeography]

10. LOL...she looks downright FEARFUL of that shot glass

[JVS]

40. it's a risky photo op, if she chokes or gags on the shot, her campaign is done

[ampad]

21. Oh wow

Get your drink on Hillary! :rofl: I'm sorry but those picture looks staged and down right idiotic. So now you gotta have a few shots of whiskey and beer to prove how American you are? I thought good Christians didn't drink. So which one is it? You gotta enjoy a beer to be American or go to church to be an American? Maybe you have to do both but then again I though good Christians didn't touch the sauce. It must depend on your denomination but since I'm an agnostic I guess I'm out of the loop. Hillary should write a speech and tell us the rule of being a good American. :eyes:

[JVS]

41. Lots of denominations allow drinking.

I was at the bar a few months ago and one of the other patrons said "Hey! Weren't you in my confirmation class?"

[bigbrother05]

45. Difference between a Baptist and a Methodist?

The Methodist will make eye contact in the liquor store.

[nichomachus]

56. What's the differnce between Jews, Methodists and Baptists

Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah

Methodists don't recognize the pope

Baptists don't recognize each other in the package store

[goclark]

34. Take a look at the picture in the middle

See the man in the White shirt?

He is looking as if to say ~"what the hell is she doing?"

She looks as if she is not even aware of the other people around her.
Her eyes are totally focused on that drink ----

How does that look on the front page of the town newspaper ~maybe it's just me but the men that I know that go to bars don't like to see a lady drink that way.

What image does that give to young voters?

[ecstatic]

12. Did she repeat this fond memory late at night?

Like Bill said, Hillary's getting up in age and her memory is faulty and she often misspeaks late at night. Either way, I'm sure the 'fond memory' is bullshit. LMAO if it was so sad.

[Cha]

26. Slug it down hilary..drown those

lies ready to pop out.

[crankychatter]

29. it's not bullshit

it's a "gift for fiction."

has anyone asked her what sort of weapon she used for duck hunting?

[myrna minx]

30. It's WABBIT season!

[goclark]

37. Remember when she laughed at Obama's bowling

and she couldn't bowl?

Now she shot ducks behind the house.

Why can't I believe her anymore.

She probably did shoot ducks but somehow.....:boring:

[bigtree]

39. what a bitter thread

so much hate

[cliffordu]

44. Welcome Home, good buddy!

[nichomachus]

59. We're not bitter -- we're happy -- Hillary said so

[JackORoses]

47. Look Out College Aged Males... Hill's Gone Wild!!!

[goclark]

48. Obama says "bitter," HC downs liquor with the boys at the bar

When will we see the Bar photo on the front page and with the clips?


I thought about this last night,can't get it out of my mind

I am sincerely and deeply offended that Hillary Clinton would think that would be appropriate for a candidate.

I'm sorry, I was offended as a woman and a Senior .

If she is attempting to reach the Senior women voters ~I would be shocked if they thought this was appropriate. In our generation, this was rarely done.

[windbreeze]

60. I am an older woman, who has done my share of drinking....BUT

AND...First off, I was NOT going to say a thing...BUT...what the hell is she thinking??? She's not some old woman sitting at home alone, in PRIVATE, throwing shots back, before retiring...She's a PRESIDENTIAL candidate for crying out loud...AND a WOMAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE at that, out in public, drinking boilermakers...OH MY GOD!!!...Some things we just don't need to be showing we can do with the best of them...Can you see the reaction on the men's faces??? Like they don't believe what they are watching...NO...this was NOT proper behavior for her..UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES...Come on Hillary...get over it...YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE BOYS...wb

[dailykoff]

49. Wonder who cleaned up the barf.

Yuk.

[totodeinhere]

50. What disgusting pandering.

It's especially disgusting coming from someone who in the past has called for comprehensive gun control.
Does she know any shame whatsoever?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E7D9173FF93AA35756C0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

[Vinca]

51. Reminds me of a certain vodka drinking contest -

"Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.

Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much — that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. “One of the guys” was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/washington/29rivals.html?pagewanted=print

Of course, McCain denies it ever happened.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51439

Sen. John McCain is denying a report in the New York Times that claimed he and fellow Sen. Hillary Clinton engaged each other in a vodka-drinking contest in Estonia two years ago.

"It didn't happen," McCain said on NBC's "Tonight Show with Jay Leno." "Don't believe everything you read."

[FatDave]

54. Thank you, Vinca

I was just about to go looking for that story, but I couldn't remember what it was they'd been drinking. Damn, woman likes her shots!

[City Lights]

64. Glad you posted this, Vinca.

I was going to add this story to the thread if someone hadn't already done so.

[Vinca]

65. Of course, now that I've thought about it, who is lying?

Hillary or McCain? It would be interesting to know.

[Skidmore]

53. Begs the question.

At 3 AM, will Hill be passed out on the sofa?

Remember she did vodka shots with her good buddy McCain.

[nichomachus]

58. Political advice

How you handle this situation as a candidate. You can't refuse the drink. That would be rude. But swilling it down evokes all the criticism you see here -- even for a man. A beer, maybe. A shot and a beer - NO.

You clink glasses, take a sip -- basically put the glass to your lips -- then you say "Thanks, but I can't drink this now. I have a long day ahead of me and I need to stay focused, but I appreciate your hospitality."

That's all -- everyone's happy.

The truth is -- unless you've got a real drinking problem -- tossing down a shot and beer is going to slow you down for the rest of the day. I like my beer and I'll have a whiskey now and then, but even I wouldn't do it if I had some real work to do later. When I was working, I would never drink at lunch. It kind of turned the afternoon into a blur.

[bridgit]

57. pft, BHO ain't that cool. Taxation of distilled spirits caused some of the first social disruption..

Its a tradition BHO would seem to know nothing about, or respect. What now? Queue black Cadillac/Old English 40 drinkers. BHO has needed to get out of the cloistered pom-pom waving world of university gymnasiums for months now, get to where Americans live. Do some stuff that people do. But he no-can-do; he's hoity toity. He's a dandy man. And can't be seen without a crease in his slacks, or a bit of lint on his coat which he is constantly preening for.

[Scurrilous]

63. Kick

:thumbsup: