Here goes Hillary :" I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Sen. Obama made about people in.."

[peoli]

" small town America. Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans. Certainly not the Americans that I know — not the Americans I grew up with, not the Americans I lived with in Arkansas or represent in New York.

You know, Americans who believe in the Second Amendment believe it¹s a matter of Constitutional rights. Americans who believe in God believe it is a matter of personal faith. Americans who believe in protecting good American jobs believe it is a matter of the American Dream.

When my dad grew up it was in a working class family in Scranton. I grew up in a churchgoing family, a family that believed in the importance of living out and expressing our faith.

The people of faith I know don't "cling to" religion because they're bitter

People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich. Our faith is the faith of our parents and our grandparents. It is a fundamental expression of who we are and what we believe.

I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country "cling to guns" and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt — and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter.

And as I¹ve traveled across Indiana and I¹ve talked to a lot of people what I hear are real concerns about unfair trade practices that cost people jobs.

I think hardworking Americans are right to want to see changes in our trade laws. That¹s what I have said. That¹s what I have fought for.

I would also point out that the vast majority of working Americans reject anti-immigration rhetoric. They want reform so that we remain a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws that we enforce and we enforce fairly.

Americans are fair-minded and good-hearted people. We have ups and downs. We face challenges and problems. But our views are rooted in real values, and they should be respected.

Americans out across our country have born the brunt of the Bush administration¹s assault on the middle class. Contrary to what Sen. Obama says, most Americans did much better during the Clinton years than they have done during the Bush years.

If we are striving to bring people together — and I believe we should be — I don't think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not."


Hey Hillary, go fuck yourself.

Edit : Here is the link. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Hillary_hits_Obama_on_faith_guns.html

[anonymous171]

1. Holy shit! She played the American Values card? wtf!

[ErinBerin84]

5. To me, this sounds

like something Tony Perkins would say. In the spirit of good old American values....I am going to have to get soooooo drunk before voting if Hillary is the Democratic nominee in November.

[GoldieAZ49]

78. how dare she imply Americans have values regardless of the economy

dastardly indeed! :rofl:

[Why Syzygy]

She is a pathetic sham. Every time she opens her mouth I hate her more.

[Waya]

2. Oh, ferf*cksakes...............

.....give her a tissue......

[roguevalley]

61. go to americablog. there is a video there that will make you happy

and show you that she is toast.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. Fuck you Hillary.

Go away. Go back to your mansion and count all money Bill brought home for selling our country out to the highest bidder.

Asshole.

[Oregone]

4. At this point, I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

Enjoy your Hillary. Shell probably lose to McCain. Enjoy another 8 years of Bush's America. Im gone.

[Yael]

6. She should just go ahead and change that D to an R

At least McCentury is honest about his affiliation.

[journalist3072]

7. I agree with Sen. Clinton wholeheartedly. She hit the nail on the head. Thank you Sen. Clinton,

for telling the truth.

[dkf]

13. Well we always knew Hillary supporters were oblivious.

:puke:

[jenmito]

15. She's a distorting LIAR.

[cali]

23. she's truly disgusting

beyond the pale, and a lying piece of.... work. Fuck her. She's no better than a repuke.

[Window]

28. That's because both of you are full of shit.

[wndycty]

8. K&R. . .Hillary is looking to polarize and divide us, sort of like a Republican

Visit this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5468610

[stray cat]

9. If you're happy and you know it clap your hands!

Americans and America have no faults - sounds like a Romney line

[qazplm]

10. here's the problem

no matter how much you hate obama and want hillary to win, and lets assume for argument that obama is horrible and hillary is great.

I mean seriously lets assume that.

Well, there's a problem because he is going to win the nomination.

So we have two options.

Tear him down in a desperate attempt by hillary to somehow pull out a win, or stop jumping at EVERY single opportunity to paint obama in the worst possible light.

I think you can fight hard and try to win without completely selling out to portray obama as the worst possible person.

Clinton is making it impossible for us to come together because when she loses, and she will, she will have zero credibility in touting obama at all.

[Tom Rinaldo]

20. I disagree with your core premises

I do not at all think it is certain that Obama is going to win the nomination, and that has been debated countless times already here so I won't reinvent that wheel yet again now AND...

There isn't a single line of attack against Obama that the Republicans won't pursue further and harder and more effectively against Obama than the Clinton campaign does now.


In fact, if Clinton were not still contesting the nomination the hard core Republican attacks on Obama would have already begun. They have been delayed because there is only so much attention that the public will pay to politics in the Spring, and a contested nomination fight gets more attention than any cross party partisan attacks. But if Obama was now in the same position as McCain is, with the nomination securely locked up, the full fury of the Republican Party would already be focused on him and that is what would fill the political news void instead of a fight for the Democratic nomination.

[qazplm]

31. yes it is about as certain as one can be in politics

clinton will not gain a lead in either popular votes or delegates and there is ZERO indication that superdelegates are going to go for her in overwhelming numbers.

which means she loses.

now yes if obama screws up SO bad that he becomes unelectable then she wins, but that is highly unlikely to happen at this late stage.

and yes the republicans will attack. I see no reason why though that we should be helping them and that is what clinton is doing. and she is also removing any chance that she will be an effective weapon against them this fall, or that she will be able to inspire women to vote for obama.

[quakerboy]

51. Its all about conditioning

Hillary is conditioning her base to hear and listen to those Repub attacks. People who have spurned Faux for years now are quoting them here, because they are in line with Hillary of late. When she is gone, will those people realize the problem, and stop giving Faux any credence? It becomes a lot harder to ignore their shit if you are touting them every day.

[Tom Rinaldo]

58. I don't buy it

Hardly anyone in America was conditioned to think of Kerry as a coward who faked war wouunds to get out of Viet Nam prior to the Democratic convention and the Republicans opening fire on him. He wasn't tagged as a flip flopper until the General campaign began in ernest. The Republican will have ample opportunity to attempt to clearly define the Democratic candidate anyway they want to before November. Either you are able to come back against charges like that or you aren't. Either you can redirect the public narrative to another topic more to your favor or you can't.

And if this is really your concern than a long time ago you should have been expressing it to Obama when he was attempting to condition Democratic voters to think that Hillary Clinton was too polorizing to be elected President. Clinton was the most likely nominee back then.

[quakerboy]

64. Exactly

Thats how bad it was when we didn't have a fairly popular democrat acting in concert with the Repubs. How much harder is our fight with that conditioning?

As to likely hood... I dont think so. The only time when Clinton was most likely was before a single vote had been cast. Pure name recognition. At that point, the only real likely hood was that the current squatter was a Fuckup and that whoever won the Democratic nomination seemed likely to win the presidency. Well, and that my favorite Dennis Kucinich would likely not win. We were still being teased with Al Gore. Hillary was alway the second best, everyone knows her name choice. The only change has been who she plays second to.

[Liberal Gramma]

83. Obama didn't convince us Clinton is polarizing

We knew that way before he came on the scene. She's had high negatives since the 90's,

[Tom Rinaldo]

86. He pushed Republican talking points

The fact that they were proven toxic Republican talking points if anything makes it worse, at least by the logic of the post I initially responded to.

[Liberal Gramma]

100. I think you have the wrong pronoun

SHE pushes Republican talking points.

[dkf]

11. Damn she sounds smug...very unattractive

Is she the most unlikeable politician ever? Certainly on the Dem side.

[otohara]

12. Clinging to Desperate Tactics

in an effort to win at all costs.

[tokenlib]

14. For her sensitivity and being "in touch"--the "F" word is too kind..n/t

[Vinca]

16. She's definitely running in the wrong party. nt

[tularetom]

17. I can't even read that shit without

:puke:

I'm a "hard working small town" American who owns guns and I think Obama was right on. A lot of my fellow hard working small town Americans who own guns are indeed bitter because of elitists like Clinton who have over the past two decades silently and slowly sold them out.

There ain't a lot of them who "cling to religion" either. At least around here. I think religion is bullshit and so do most of my neighbors.

Hillary needs to shit can the fake populist act. She isn't capable of pulling it off convincingly once her $100 million net worth is revealed.

[PBS Poll-435]

22. Go to Open Secrets...

Read her tax returns. Read her Senate disclosures. Get a dictionary. Something.

or... Find a link that says that her "net-worth" is $100,000,000.00

[quakerboy]

53. Maybe he misspoke

100mil income, rather than net worth.

Why an Oregon avatar?

[PBS Poll-435]

55. Perhaps.

People can misspeak. It happens. Probably should check the facts before using that as an anchor in his future posts, though.

Oregon - Born & raised. Texas - for work.

[quakerboy]

65. The same basic

applies, even if the technicality is wrong. Whether its net value or income, its a fair bit out of the ordinary, and has a tendency to make people reconsider your populist credentials. Not necessarily discard them, but reconsider them definitely.

[madfloridian]

18. This is sickening. She is playing to low information, less educated voters.

Just like our so called media does.

I am so disappointed in her and her husband.

[TwilightGardener]

25. That's her base. Pander to the ignorant. The smart Dems have been

on to her phony BS since January.

[2rth2pwr]

38. Who was Obama describing, in your mind, the smart Dems or the ignorant?

[TwilightGardener]

40. I don't think he was descibing anyone as "ignorant". I think Hillary

intentionally preys on the ignorant, because they are the only ones who haven't caught on to her bullshit, and they tend to vote "brand-name", thinking they'll get a less-embarrassing version of Bill back into the WH. That's her base--the "low-information" voter.

[2rth2pwr]

41. He wasn't portaying them in a positive light.

Some voters do vote values over economics, Obama may want to explain to such voters why they should do otherwise, given that he has spent the last 20 years in a church

known for disavowing 'the pursuit of middleclassness.

"The original statement sounded like a typical law-school-liberal remark. I think it was quite sincere, and I'm rather sure he believed he was being admirably

intellectual and raising politics to a new, higher level. Within a liberal law school environment, that statement would be heard as a thoughtful, compassionate insight.

Some of your colleagues might think you were excessively, squishily tolerant of what they see as ignorant, bigoted people, but I don't think they'd push you to be more

understanding of the alien culture you were observing"

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/04/so-indiana-may-end-up-being-tiebreaker.html

[TwilightGardener]

42. He was saying that he understands why they tend to fall back on

familiar issues and attitudes and traditions--they know they aren't going to get politicians who actually get anything meaningful done for their lives in a practical sense, so they vote on cultural issues instead. You know he spoke the truth, but go ahead and spin away.

[SwampG8r]

49. he was describing

the disaffected dems who have their votes pandered for by the old school ward heelers like hillary
the ones who promise
but dont deliver
like the universal health care train wreck that she presided over in her disgusting husbands term
all hat
no cattle hillary

[2rth2pwr]

62. and because these promises weren't delivered on, they cling to

hunting and going to church because they are intelligent?

[TwilightGardener]

67. He didn't say a word about their intelligence. He said they cling

to certain cultural values and attitudes as a preferred way to measure a candidate's worth, and as a way to deal with the fact that no one meaningfully addresses their real problems.

[2rth2pwr]

85. Irrational? is he calling them irrational?

What is he calling them?

[TwilightGardener]

87. I don't think he's calling them anything. Why are you trying to put words

into his mouth? Just take his statements the way they are.

[2rth2pwr]

93. He is insulting a whole swath of the US by implying they worship for

all the wrong reasons.

[TwilightGardener]

95. Huh? You're seriously overreaching now.

[cliffordu]

105. Bullshit:

What he was saying is:

There are huge sections of this country who have had their lives reduced to core beliefs like guns or religion because they've had every other hope for advancement and ownership in this society ripped from their hands by the Walmarts of this world, where your girl Hillary helped with the union busting.

I KNOW these people as they are my family - my brother, my mother and my sister defeated by jobs gone due to HILLARY'S NAFTA and now the oil company grabs.

AND YOU FUCKING KNOW THIS. If you don't I want to know why you call yourself a democrat.

[bigtree]

45. The old 'uneducated' smear of Clinton supporters. Their lack of college experience makes them stupid

. . . to Obama supporters.

By your discriminatory logic, less than half of the voters between Obama and Clinton are stupid. No wonder she says you folks talk like elitists.

[TwilightGardener]

57. I don't think I'm an elitist--I think I'm smart, informed, and an excellent

judge of character. That's why I support Obama. If you interpret "elitist" as informed or enlightened or educated, that's your issue, not mine.

[bigtree]

63. she said his STATEMENT was elitist

. . . and it was, to a great extent.

[TwilightGardener]

66. No. I don't think it's elitist. I think it's true and shows understanding

and sympathy. I think Hillary is a true elitist who pretends to give a shit about the "little people" only because they empower her with their vote, and thus panders to them at every opportunity. I believe Obama honestly cares about these people, even though he was acknowledging that they were resistant to him and likely won't vote for him. He's a genuinely good person with a good heart. Not a power-hungry user.

[bigtree]

68. great. so you hate Clinton. how boring. But, she did not call Obama an elitist.

She said his statement was 'elitist'. It was. I think both millionaires are a bit elitist. Goes with the territory, I suppose.

[TwilightGardener]

69. I think all politicians at the Presidential level can be branded "elitist"

because they tend to be powerful, wealthy, and accomplished. I don't see his statement as elitist. Elitist would mean he dismisses these people's lives and concerns as unimportant. Instead, he seeks to understand them. And he does. He understands exactly why some people in these rust-belt areas are hesitant to vote for him--they don't identify with him culturally, which is how they tend to vote. The truth is the truth--it's not elitist. He didn't dismiss or mock these folks--certainly not the way Hillary mocked me as an Obama supporter, on repeated occasions.

[riskpeace]

98. It seems like this type of arrogance

and elitism is exactly what has got Senator Obama in this latest spot.

"I'm skinny but I'm tough." Senator Barack Obama, February 11, 2008, College Park, MD

[bigtree]

46. those stupid folks without college experience (uneducated) just can't understand the nuances

. . . behind Obamas big words. He should continue to tell them what they understand and believe until they're as 'educated' as he is.

[bigtree]

48. wrong place

[butterfly77]

19. Go take a shit Hillary!

you are full of it...

[OzarkDem]

21. Divide and conquer is Obama and Axelrod's style

It looks like its starting to backfire on them.

[C_U_L8R]

24. Hillary is a jerk

a world-class jerk.

What a bunch of nonsense.

[burythehatchet]

26. Reminds me of when she threw Kerry under the bus while he was running

for president. Opportunistic and disingenuous. Beyond redemption.

[Window]

27. ..

[ej510]

30. Hillary and her supporters are republicans.

it's been clear for a while now. They love McCain as much as they love her. They all use Gop talking points. They all like Fox news. What more could you say?

[VolcanoJen]

29. I concur.

Hillary can go fuck herself.

[2rth2pwr]

32. Lot of people here are very upset at this from Hillary. It's an effective line

of disgust with what Obama said about people in PA.

The people of PA will tell us who they relate to.

[RememberWellstone]

33. Better than the Snobama

Why would bitterness make you carry a gun and a bible? For God's sakes, does he have to be so blatant at his out of touchness?

[cali]

34. she's a lying turd

she sends out emails of Grover Norquist attacking Obama. She's no better than any piece of shit repuke.

[nsd]

35. I was never a supporter of Hillary Clinton.

But I have been willing to vote for her in the general election were she to become the nominee (through legitimate means). I wouldn't have been happy about it, but I'd have done it just to get the Republicans out of there.

Now I don't know. The longer this campaign has dragged on and the more opportunity I've gotten to see Hillary Clinton operate, the more I've come to think that I could never bring myself to vote for this person. I just couldn't do it. She's taking a page straight out of the GOP playbook. I've seen other good people smeared over the years in this way (Gore, Kerry), but it was always by THEM, not by US. To have someone supposedly on our side play it this way makes me nauseous. Is she even a Democrat anymore?

[ampad]

43. I will never vote for her in the GE

and all you that want to call me a traitor to the Dems, not a true Dem and what about the Supreme Cour and McCain can stick in where the sun don't shine. Look, I have never, ever voted for a Republican and I don't plan on starting now. Hillary can kiss my ass along with the rest of the Repig party. She will never get my vote. I have observed enough, the race baiting, the out and out lies, the not as far as I know. I was willing to vote for her after all that but now I'm done. I cannot hold my nose and vote for her anymore than I can hold my nose and vote for McCain. Yea I know I'm just one person but I find it hard to believe I am the only one that has reached this point after all this.

[Eurobabe]

36. Hillary is an out of touch elitist.

And yes she can go fuck herself.

[backscatter712]

37. Fuck yourself, Hillary. Nobody believes your lies anymore.

[Faygo Kid]

39. What mischaracterization. What pandering.

It's obvious that she will destroy the party and do anything - anything - to get power. Her mischaracterization of Obama's remarks is breathtaking.

"Striving to bring people together"

Yeah, right. She makes me want to hurl.

[Citizen Kang]

44. Why is anyone surprised by this?

She is a cynical, shrill sociopath who will say and and do whatever it takes to become the nominee.

[PerfectSage]

47. If she was really taken aback... ...she would have cackled.

Like yesterday when she was asked about Bill getting paid $800k from Colombia for a possible free trade agreement.

[bigtree]

50. She's echoing the interpretation of Obama's statement Skinner posted this morning

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5467884&mesg_id=5467884


"What makes the quote a gaffe is the latter part, "they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." This is not good. The first problem is the use of the word "cling" which implies a sort-of irrational and desperate latching-on. When you use the word "cling" you are implying that the things to which one is clinging are bad. Which leads us to the second problem in the quote, the things that are being clung: Guns. Religion. Antipathy to people who aren't like them. Anti-immigrant sentiment. Anti-trade sentiment.

Among the items being clung, for the purpose of this deconstruction, there are two broad categories. The first category is Things that many small-town Americans embrace as part of their values, but which Senator Obama is painting as bad: Guns, Religion, Frustration with illegal immigration, Skepticism toward free-trade. The inclusion of Religion alone on that list is enough to make the quote controversial. Add guns, frustration with illegal immigration, and skepticism toward free trade, and you are expressing a negative view toward many of their cultural and political values.

The second category is Unflattering stereotypes that elites hold toward people in middle America: Antipathy to people who aren't like them. And, of course, a propensity to cling to guns, religion, anti-immigrant sentiment, and anti-trade sentiment.

If you are still having difficulty understanding why this would be controversial, imagine if he had said something like this, while commenting on frustration among the urban liberal elite:

And it's not surprising that they get selfish and arrogant, they cling to lattes or Priuses or abortion-on-demand or gay marriage or anti-Bush sentiment as a way to explain their unhappiness.

Do you see it now? Calling liberals selfish, arrogant, and unhappy. Saying that you "cling" to things like lattes or Priuses or reproductive choice or equal rights. Hey, not every liberal drinks lattes and drives a Prius or does all those things! Of course, some do, but even if they do those aren't bad things!

So, Senator Obama has a problem on his hands.

[Texas Hill Country]

73. yes, and its the way the majority of those people are gonna take it.

[Bensthename]

52. McCain/Clinton '08

[NightOwwl]

54. "I don't think it helps...

to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not."

Oh for fuck's sake. Can someone please put her out of her misery now.

[bigtree]

56. 'put her out of her misery'

. . . and folks actually cotton to this kind of talk? I think it's downright despicable.

[Yael]

59. I think they meant to say

put her out of OUR misery.

The shit flinging is getting old.

[rateyes]

60. Come on, Hillary, YOU'RE about "bringing people together?"

Hillary: "If we are striving to bring people together — and I believe we should be — I don't think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not."

Then, Hillary, why the fuck are you playing the politics of division?

I used to respect you, Hillary. You finally have stepped over my line. This is truly pathetic. How many state dinners have you been to? How many millions have you made over the past decade? You wear a new outfit every day. And, you want us to believe you are not "elitist?"

Gag a maggot, Hillary. Good grief.

[Justitia]

90. If it looks like a Republican, talks like a Republican, campaigns like a Republican.... -eom

[Avalux]

70. Hillary is too out of touch to understand, lol.

And let's talk about her father's working class family - how her grandmother was a slum lord and threw people out of their homes when they couldn't pay her during the depression. She was despised and hated in Scranton.

Hillary doesn't have the capacity to understand the mind of the small town PA voter as evidenced by her idiotic remarks.

[Raine]

71. So condescending

she makes me :puke:

[Texas Hill Country]

72. actually, i think she is right to be honest, but i think he has a point as well.

[Radical Activist]

74. I'm sure people in the rich Chicago suburb she grew up in had different attitudes.

What a fuckwad.

[GoldieAZ49]

75. you sound bitter, cling to your gun and religion and cop an attitude against those

that are different from you...oh, you have already done that

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

76. Only a drooling idiot would believe that she's "taken aback".

Political posturing at it's most absurd.

[Radical Activist]

77. This is the same bullshit tactic where she pretended Obama praised Reagan's policies.

She knows its a lie and she's depending on people misinterpreting what Obama said. Her tactics are no different than the talk radio shows.

[JVS]

79. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY

[GoldieAZ49]

80. what she said is exactly right, what is your problem with it?

While I had my most profitable year last year, I did start working in my field during the Clinton administration.

But there is nothing objectionable in what she said, it is factually accurate...why the sniveling?

[Avalux]

82. Well good for you!

What an utterly inane thing to say. If you can't empathize with people, who unlike you, lost manufacturing jobs and have had to struggle to survive, then I can't help you.

[GoldieAZ49]

96. and exporting goods have helped many other Americans

both have guns and religion, they are not 'clinging' to them out of frustration, not do they have the attitude problems toward immigration or people that are different.

Good for me is right, being successful doesn't mean a lack of empathy, and claiming to be empathetic doesn't make it so.

His words, that matter so much to him, show his disdain for middle America, I am sure the feeling is mutual.

[Avalux]

101. Your words show your lack of understanding of the plight of middle America.

When you have the time, I'll take you to my hometown so you can talk to some of the people under discussion. Maybe then you will understand.

[GoldieAZ49]

102. I am a middle American

and live in a town of the same, and we are not bitter.

Do not underestimate America, look at what we have been through and overcome. This it just another bump in the road, it is about the journey, there is no destination, final chapter or end of the road.

[cottonseed]

81. She bores me.

Hillary doesn't give a crap about small town America. It's fake and the first people who will see through it are small town Americans.

[EFerrari]

84. I'm not a Randi fan, but she was right. n/t

[Justitia]

88. Out-of-Touch McHillary says we are all HAPPY WORKER DRONES.

Iraq (which McHillary dragged us into) is going great, Nobody really goes without healthcare, everyone has a chicken in every pot.....

USA - we're # 1, yay!

and oh yeah, we're completely fucking delusional.

[Enrique]

91. no, it's the opposite

she said the right thing on trade, Obama said the wrong thing. He characterized us workers' concerns about trade as being pathological, Hillary expressed respect for the sentiment.

Obama:

small town Americans clinging to "guns, religion or antipathy or to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustration."



Hillary:

"And as I¹ve traveled across Indiana and I¹ve talked to a lot of people what I hear are real concerns about unfair trade practices that cost people jobs.

I think hardworking Americans are right to want to see changes in our trade laws. That¹s what I have said. That¹s what I have fought for."

[Justitia]

92. That's REALLY hard to sell when her household is making a million bucks off trade w/Columbia.

Actions speak louder than words.

She talks out one side of her mouth, then supports NAFTA and gets paid under the table from repressive governments to the tune of millions to support trades with corrupt Latin American gov'ts.

So, who is she REALLY serving?

Herself, that's who.

[Enrique]

94. I agree

I think they're usually both faking it in their trade rhetoric.

I was responding to your reaction to Hillary's comments, which in fact were the right thing to say, though disingenuous. Obama was the one who made the mistake of revealing his true attitude toward people with "anti-trade sentiments."

[GoldieAZ49]

97. you certainly are delusional.

[Justitia]

103. And your candidate is fucking desperate. -eom

[VotesForWomen]

89. Looks like Obama stepped in it. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

99. Hillary wants to pretend that Americans aren't bitter about the way the govt has treated them

Nothing to see here folks, move along. Americans are just fine and dandy!!!

[Skittles]

104. you realize this is playing politics, don't you?

it shocks me how many DUers act as if they have never before witnessed a political campaign

[my3boyz]

106. Hillary is such a bitch! I'm confident that

all of this will come back to her. What goes around comes back around. You can't be EVIL like her and expect a charmed life. Believe me the way she has tried to destroy Barack's character is going to come back to her.

[Catherina]

107. Boy will Pennsylvania have a surprise for Her Imperial Majesty

[and-justice-for-all]

108. It was not a snobish, elitist remark....

it is the truth. that people do in fact 'cling' to such things and the majority of us are fucking bitter.

[Azathoth]

109. The fact that Hillary and McCain are reading from the *exact* same sheet of talking points

says everything.