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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:25 AM
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A vote for Clinton at this point is nothing more than a protest vote. She is now Ron Paul
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 AM by SoonerPride
Little noticed by the powers that be, Ron Paul keeps chugging along. Oh sure, he gets some votes and his supporters still hope against hope that pledged delegates aren't realy pledged to anything, and well, maybe, just maybe, ol' crazy man McCain will fall over dead or have another one of his infamous scream fests and Ron Paul will come in to save the day. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Conversely, on the Democratic ticket, we have our own Ron Paul. Someone who is mathematically eliminated. Someone who has a less-than-zero percent chance of winning the party nomination. But there is always hope. Maybe Barack Obama will tear off his mask and reveal he is really an alien from another planet. Or maybe something 1000x worse and more inflammatory than Revered Wright will surface. They can always hope for the worst.

Were that person anyone other than the wife of a former President, her campaign would attract as much notice as does Ron Paul. She would roundly be called on to end the campaign and get out of the way.

"Hey Hill, you aren't helping. And you aren't gonna win either."

But indeed, she has the name. She also boasts a considerable legion of lemmings willing to dive off a cliff in order to maintain the illusion that this is still a race.

Indeed.

So she slogs on. Sullying her good name, damaging the reputation of her formerly admired spouse, and depleting the coffers of the Presumptive Nominee in order to continue her own vainglorious Bataan Death March of futility.

Calls for her to exit the race fall on deaf ears.

So fine. The only response is no response at all. She should get the same amount of attention as does Ron Paul.

So fine, Hillary, continue your babbling, your squabbling, your campaign-in-name only.

The rest of us are moving on without you.

The is the last post in which I will mention the Sentator from New York, her campaign or her followers. All posts from this point forward will be about John McCain and the Obama campaign.





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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:27 AM
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1. Might as well leave DU then since she will be the nominee
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:29 AM
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3. YAY!!! Madame President!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:59 PM
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27. but she forgets, how can she be president?
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:31 AM
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5. In Bizarro world maybe...
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:28 AM
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2. There is no protests votes in the primaries
The protest votes will be in the General Election and they will occur in Florida and Michigan. You can laugh all you want, but, you'll just have to hide and watch. That said, I'm not worried about any protest votes because when Hillary wins the GE we will all be dancing in the streets.
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Ilithiad Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:34 AM
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7. SPOT ON!
If obama wins the nomination Florida and Michigan will have protest votes against Obama in the GE. Guarantee it.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:05 PM
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15. No rules were broken by Clinton in Florida and Michigan. Right?
I'm not really following this as close as some, but what is it that is laughed about?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:19 PM
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19. It won't be a protest vote in Florida.
They DINOs probably would prefer McCain if they can't get Clinton.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:29 AM
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4. Not exactly
Ron Paul is batfuck crazy, and never had support outside of the Randroids on college campuses and extreme anti-tax jackasses.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:33 AM
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6. Heya, come on, that is not cool at all...
...why insult Ron Paul? He is an honest person ~~ HilLIARy is not!

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:39 AM
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8. This Obama supporter disagrees
I would give Obama the edge, but there is still a good chance that she could get the nomination. If Obama can do well enough in the later primaries (many of which favor her) that he has a clear lead in delegates, a lead in the popular vote, and ideally a lead big enough to withstand seating at least half of the Florida and Michigan delegates (with Michigan being apportioned 55-45, reflective of the 55% Clinton got), then there's no question that he will be the nominee. But if she can pull ahead in the popular vote, or if Michigan and Florida would change the outcome, then no matter what the superdelegates do some people will feel like their candidate was cheated out of the nomination. In that scenario, the supers will give it to whoever looks more electable against John McCain, or push a joint ticket. The last thing we as Obama supporters should want is for him to get the nomination with any shred of illegitimacy. Getting him elected is not going to be easy and we need all hands on deck and a united party behind him if we are going to make it happen. The last thing we want is for Clinton's supporters to feel that she was pushed out prematurely or that she was somehow cheated out of the nomination.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:42 AM
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9. Damn it, Hillary is NOT Ron Paul!!
Ron Paul ALWAYS opposed the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
:hide:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:56 AM
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10. Yep, move on without us since you won't need her millions of supporters in the GE.
How does president McCain sound to you?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:58 AM
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11. Sounds like blackmail to make people who hate HilLIARy...
...support her. Just another dishonest tactic from the Clinton supporters.

Any other questions?
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:05 AM
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12. This sounds like "neener, neener, neener" to me
If I can't win, you can't either. We all need to support the Democratic candidate, whoever that is. I'm for Obama, but I'll vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. Will you vote Democratic in either case, or are you going to take your ball and bat and go home in a huff?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:54 PM
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13. I'm taking my bat, my glove and my ball and will watch from the sidelines.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:54 PM by Beacool
No money for the DNC, no time spent campaigning, no fund raisers either (some of us have raised plenty of money for the party over the years). I will help out, though, at the local and state level. Lautenberg is up for reelection, I'll help his campaign.

Why? Because I honestly don't think that Obama is prepared to be president. I would have considered him in a few years, but not now. I would have voted for any of the other candidates (except Gravel), but I can't see myself voting for Obama. I don't trust him, I think that he's a slick guy who panders to the masses.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:54 PM
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23. You have a lot to lose
A McCain presidency means tax cuts for the rich extended, the war going on forever, no health care for many Americans, and more uber-conservative supreme court appointments. Supporting your state and local Democrats won't do anything to change that. I don't expect anyone to give time and money to a candidate they don't like, but every vote withheld from the Democrats brings a McCain presidency closer. Now, maybe you don't think those consequences are worth your vote, but I do think they are. I'm voting Democratic, regardless of the candidate we choose.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:01 PM
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14. Keep giving the middle finger to Hillary supporters
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:11 PM
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16. Hillary has been giving the middle finger to the Democratic party ..... so.....
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 01:11 PM by scheming daemons
...if you want to be associated with that, there's nothing we can do to change your mind.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:16 PM
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17. I don;t attach my self worth to my candidate.
Pity you seem to.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:22 PM
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22. She's only flipping off certain segments of the democratic party
The far left segment to be exact.
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lachattefolle Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:24 PM
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30. Plenty of us will remember, don't doubt that.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:17 PM
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18. More closely to a Huckabee. IF she stays in after losing PA.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:20 PM
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20. I know Ron Paul, and Hillary is no Ron Paul
Not even close.

He is the only person running who actually voted against this war.

And he never waivers.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:21 PM
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21. Ron Paul never won a single state that I'm aware of.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:55 PM
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24. HAHAHA, you guys are hilarious...
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:56 PM
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25. Ron Paul has principles. I don't agree with them, but he has them.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 05:57 PM by TexasObserver
He is the picture of consistency, albeit wrong. She is literally a function of which crowd she's trying to sell today. She stands only for Hillary.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:58 PM
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26. your comparison of Hillary to Paul is disgusting, wrong and very freeperish quite unDemocratic
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:13 PM
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28. But a protest against what? Democrats? n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:14 PM
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29. OH MY GOD!!!!!
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 08:28 PM
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31. More like Rupaul. She's a fucking DRAG on the Dems and thinks she should be coronated like a QUEEN.
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