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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:52 PM
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At Hillary fundraiser, Elton John criticizes misogyny of Americans - "I say to hell with them."
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 08:59 PM by jefferson_dem
Elton John: 'To hell with them'

There's a real crowd at Radio City, complete with scalpers, and lines around the block for Elton John and the Clintons.

Toward the back of one line: Frank Luntz, Lanny Davis, and Doug Schoen. ("I used to be in business with Mark Penn," Schoen joked.)

Inside, Bill Clinton introduced his wife, thanked the packed house for contributions to keep the race going, and asked for more, to shouts of "We miss you, Bill."

"If you know anybody who didnt come here tonight who could send some money over the Internet ," he said.

"What I want you to know is, Im still standing," Hillary told the crowd. I believe that this country is worth fighting for, so were talking our campaign to Pennsylvania and to all the states that havent voted."

Elton John was a bit edgier:

"I never cease to be amazed at the misogynist attitude of some of the people in this country," he said. "I say to hell with them."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Elton_John_...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:55 PM
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1. It's a sad reality.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:10 PM
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20. quite a rallying cry
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 PM
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83. Obviously, Hillary and her supporters have been using that cry all along.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:57 PM
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2. Wow! What an Royal Asshole..who the hell
knew elton john was such a hilary tool throwin' "misogynist" around? :(
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:00 PM
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4. Oh yeah...Elton John is a "Royal Asshole"....only on DU.....and in freeperville...
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:01 PM by Marrah_G
:eyes:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:02 PM
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7. If I'm correct, you are a Hillary suppoter.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:02 PM by jefferson_dem
So you must not be a misogynist. Whew. Good for you. :applause:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:04 PM
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12. She's my 4th choice, but Yes I am a Hillary supporter and a Dem supporter
You seem to mistakenly believe that I think all Obama supporters are mysogynists, which is not the case at all.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:06 PM
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14. Fair enough, Marrah_G.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM by jefferson_dem
:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM
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16. And I'm misogynistic...only from
a royal arse hilary supporter.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:09 PM
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19. I don't remember calling you anything of the sort.
Seems you are the one throwing out the insults.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:15 PM
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29. Hello! I'm talking about Sir elton john of
which I was replying to the OP in the first place.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:17 PM
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33. Ahh sorry I misunderstood
I didn't realize his comments were aimed at you.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM
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36. elton john is an idiot calling any Americans
"misogynistic" and I don't really care if you get it or not.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM
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40. oooooooookkk.......
:eyes:
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:24 PM
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46. Elton John is not even a US citizen..
:woohoo:

If he was, he wouldn't be called Sir Elton John.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:18 AM
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155. Hahahaha! Yeah, but he could be some day.
But not even Elton John would be dumb enough to move here with Bush still in the White House.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:41 AM
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191. This was my problem with it.
Come on out, sing some songs, say you like Hillary a lot, and GTFO.

Don't play the faux-outrage card for an applause line. Other people will find out and get angry.

With that said, his music is fantastic and will not leave my ipod even if he becomes an evil third-world dictator.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #36
66. I do not care either ziddy--this is concert--have fun--Rock it baby
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #36
79. well there's an idiot around here
but it's not Elton.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:00 PM
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97. You see....this is the misunderstanding that occurs when you don't place a statement
like that in, let's say....quotations? Perhaps a quick copy and paste job would do the trick, but at first glance, it did seem like your comment was directed at Marrah :eyes:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:55 PM
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92. Oh, the irony of your comment is just too rich!
Elton John is only a "royal asshole" on DU and FR...

So what about all the nasty things that have been said about Keith Olbermann?

Jimmy Carter?

Ted Kennedy?

Michael Moore?

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #92
211. all well known misogynists
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. I see that Obama avatar, zidzi!
You can't hide. Why do you hate women?!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:14 PM
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27. My mind being blown away by elton john,
right now, callin' us "misogynistic" 'cause we don't support the royal BOSNIAN SNIPER LIAR..I'm too busy to hate women! :crazy:

I knew if he supported hilary at this point that he was ignorant but :silly:?

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:19 PM
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35. I think perhaps you should wait to hear the whole thing
Somehow I doubt he said all Obama supporters are mysogynists.

He isn't ignorant. He is simply supporting a different Democrat then you are. That puts him squarely on our side as the activist he has always been.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:22 PM
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42. So everyone who's not voting for Hillary
is a misogynist? Dang! I'll have to turn in my diploma from my women's college, then! Oh, and take my uterus, while you're at it.

Geeze...if you had to bring in a gay guy from England, couldn't you have brought in John Barrowman?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:28 PM
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54. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:27 PM
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120. Holy homophobe bat man!
I guess one would only bring 'a gay guy' from England if one had to, right? But that is what you actually said, whereas Elton did not say 'everyone who's not voting for Hillary' he said the misogynistic attitude of some people in this country. And he's right, and you and your uterus are homophobic, and willing to let it show as you spin against a good person for the sake of a Candidate. Posturing tripe from a snipinig posure.
If you had to bring in a gay guy. If you had to. A gay guy.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:44 PM
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129. Maybe...
...we can get Barrowman at an Obama event? Hopefully in Houston? ;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:45 PM
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130. My son had an interesting
point when I just talked to him about it over the phone..he said, "so elton is calling some American misogynists because hilary is losing?" "Would we be misogynists if hilary were winning?"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:59 AM
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151. You should have corrected you son. Elton can recognize if some
americans are misogynists. He has been around enough to know.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #42
166. "gay guy from England"
A bit reductionist, are we?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:30 AM
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187. Homophobe!
Who the hell are you and what rock did you crawl out of?

Geeze...if you had to bring in a gay guy from England, couldn't you have brought in John Barrowman?


So you want the hot guy with the on-again, off-again American accent who appears on a show where he has sex with anything that moves to be the representative for all gay men from the UK?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #42
200. what a silly thing to say--you know better than that.
"So everyone who's not voting for Hillary

is a misogynist"
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #42
203. Yes you should definitely turn in all those things along with your homophobia
And here's your reward Silly Keith Ogremann Worshiper. I love acronyms, don't you?

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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #42
210. My apologies
I guess I shouldn't try to be funny late at night. I have nothing against gays, Hillary, or Elton John. In fact, I was listening to EJ on the way home from class tonight. Again, I'm sorry if my words were misconstrued.

I am not homophobic. Even though I am straight, I fully support gay rights, marriage equality, repealing DADT, etc. Several good friends of mine are gay - they even let me in on the "toaster" joke.

Oh, and John Barrowman may play an "omnisexual" character that will sleep with anybody, but in RL, he's married to his long-time partner and is heading up a campaign to stop the bullying of gay teens in England.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:00 PM
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3. The Bitch is Back
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #3
84. So too is the woman hater. Keep pulling your pants down.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #84
96. "The Bitch is Back" is an Elton John song
I'm guessing he didn't include that in his setlist.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #3
168. Is "Elton" A Bitch
I'll bet he could kick your silly ass...

Yeah, I said it...
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:00 PM
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5. Oh the irony...
...considering Elton John defended EMINEM when he worked with him...
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:05 PM
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13. Good catch. I'd forgotten all about that.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:42 PM
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71. Yes he did. I'd forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 10:10 PM by Catherina
Elton John's a legend. I don't begrudge him supporting Hillary and wanting to help her out.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:53 AM
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169. They Did One Song At The Grammys
Oh, and interstingly enough since that time Em has excised the homophobia from his lyrics...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:02 PM
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8. Did he mention Racism, or is that a totally seperate issue ?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. No, according to Ferarro, we've solved that.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM
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18. That doesn't count. Along with all the misogynistic states and voters that...
did vote the way that HRC wanted/expected.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #8
90. Obama doesn' talk about sexism. He released a PR calling her speech on women's rights 'ceremonial'.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
94. Who IS talking about sexism out there? Why didn't Obama say we needed a discussion on BOTH?
If he's so much for change?


He is in a better position to talk about it without being crucified.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:03 PM
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9. Does he plan to stop singing "The Bitch is Back"?
given the way the Hillary campaign has been going, he may be singing "I Guess That's Why They Call it the Blues" soon.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:04 PM
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11. Elton John is a fantastic musician
With as much understanding of American politics and our democracy as my cat. No I take that back - my cat is much better informed.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Oh Christ, Blue
Was. Over thirty years ago.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:54 AM
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170. Which Might Make It Better Informed Than His Owner
HeeHawHee
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #170
205. Yeah but...
The cat has trouble with the keyboard - so you're stuck with me...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM
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17. Wow look at these posts- Under the bus with you Elton John!
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:07 PM by Marrah_G
Bizzaro land !
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. What is this obsession with busses that Hillary supporters have?
:hide:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #24
165. no ours--its the many Obama fans who keep tossing people under if they do not bow to the Savior
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #24
171. One S , Pardner
buses

The Busses would be the owners of the Los Angeles Lakers...

Google it...
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #171
208. Actually, I'm pretty sure that both are acceptable.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. many had him under the bus when they first learned about it--they are just pushing it over once aga
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:10 PM
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21. Poor Elton
Love your music buddy. I won't throw you under the bus. I hope your willing to do a concert for the nominee when this is decided.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:10 PM
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22. Dupe
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:10 PM by Jake3463
Love your music buddy. I won't throw you under the bus. I hope your willing to do a concert for the nominee when this is decided.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:11 PM
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23. You rock john--to hell with the misogists!!
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Jesus, rodeo
Give me his last good song. Kings and Vagabonds?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #28
193. So he's not your cup of tea.
I adore him and always have, as do most of my friends. He reminds me of the good times I've had in my life and the great friends I have around me.

Quit pissing in everyone's Post Toasties, you asshole and leave others the fuck alone. You're only doing it because someone quite well-known doesn't agree with you.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #193
212. C'mon Xmas
Sing Island Girl to me. He hasn't mattered for thirty years. Irrelevance is a fukin hoorible thing. Now cue up the Pet Shop Boys!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. Elton does a lot of things, i'm sure. But he definitely does not "rock".
Please.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #31
39. shake it jeffy--rock on!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:23 PM
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44. LOL!
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:23 PM by jefferson_dem
I did "shake it" to Elton ... when I was nine.

Honestly, this was my first piece of vinyl ever owned --

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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #44
48. Damn
I'm sorry, Jefferson.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #44
65. good for you..haha
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:38 PM
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67. and rodeo
Your first?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. MY first what?
and rodeo
Posted by Condem


Your first?
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:43 PM
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72. album?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:45 PM
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73. i do not recall sorry
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #73
80. I remember mine.
Woodstock. The sounndtrack. Changed my life.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #80
87. i got that one long after the event. keep hearing about it. It is wonderful
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #87
89. Have a good night, rodeo.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:04 PM
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100. you too--its getting to be about that time
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #31
51. He used to be cool when he was the pinball wizard
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:58 AM
Response to Reply #31
172. I Disagree
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 06:59 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:49 AM
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167. Elton John DOES rock.
I love, love, love Elton John.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:13 PM
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:24 PM
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47. Wow. You are a class act aren't cha?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:29 PM
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56. I don't go in for Anglophilia if that's what you mean.
Brits have been shitting on the world for centuries.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:28 PM
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121. So trashing a whole people is okay with you but you claim to be aginst racism? LOL!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:13 PM
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144. Let's just say his politics do not surprise me. (n/t)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:03 AM
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181. Yes, used to be that "The Sun Never Sits on The British Empire."
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 08:14 AM by ShortnFiery
Someone needs to remind Elton John that even that old tired war horse, Margaret Thatcher, NEVER (not ever!) played the "Gender Victim" card even in her hardball political days. For all of her horrific (warmongering - right winger) faults, at least Thatcher had the class to just merely *outperform the boys* on their own turf and at their own game. Further, her husband Denis, was a very humble and likeable man as "First Husband" and did not get involved in HER Business.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29977-20...

While flogging her book in London last week, Hillary Clinton unexpectedly revealed her admiration for a great British political figure. Curiously, her kind words were not for Tony Blair, who is often compared to her husband, but rather for one of his illustrious conservative predecessors. Clinton has, it seems, been a fan of Margaret Thatcher's for many years. Following the Iron Lady's career from afar, Clinton particularly admired Thatcher's ability to adapt herself to fit the job. "My goodness, she changed her hair, she changed a lot of things," Clinton told a British interviewer, who gleefully described the junior senator from New York as a woman with an "iron simper."

snip

And although they made jokes about him, nobody thought he was unimportant or uninteresting, either. Obviously, his own career had been successful, and he was glad that his wife's was too. In fact, it takes a great deal of self-confidence to stand aside, when a spouse is shining in public -- and great determination to stay there. Cherie Booth, Tony Blair's wife, began by staying well out of the limelight -- refusing to give interviews, sticking to her legal career -- but finally couldn't resist chairing a few policy meetings in Downing Street, thereby bringing the wrath of the great British public down upon her head.

And Hillary Clinton? I hardly need to spell it out. Clearly, she made a big mistake many years ago, when she identified with the wrong Thatcher.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:53 AM
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201. The fact that Billary openly states her admiration for that bitch is why I will NEVER support her...
...it displays such a STAGGERING lack of understanding of what that bitch represented to the working class and middle class in the UK that it beggars belief.

Fuck 'em both.

:grr:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:49 AM
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:16 PM
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30. Elton, go fkuc a dingo!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:17 PM
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32. Reject and denounce!
RE-JECT and DE-NOUNCE!

If Hillary is there, I call on her to walk out immediately!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM
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37. A blooming headache for Hillary. Reuters has picked up the story now.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:40 AM
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190. Why does Hillary keep shooting herself in the foot?? WHY!
What a stupid statement for John to make - I swear to god everytime I hear Hillary's name that song "every step you make" runs through my head and it is like every step she takes she deliberately steps in it. WHO IS ADVISING HER???
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM
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38. Reject and denouce what exactly?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:22 PM
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43. who knows---they didn't like to hell with the misogamy statement. figures
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:30 PM
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58. Elton accused people of being against marriage too?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:31 PM
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61. what is your point?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:32 PM
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62. I was asking if your claim was correct
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:38 PM
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68. Here's a clue. I even formatted the link just the way you like to do
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misoga ...

you can fill in the last two letters to get actual info though, unlike the dead links you copy and past from other posts all the time.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:47 PM
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78. crap it--if I inadvertantaly posted a link not working sorry--but I will not take your insults.....
enough said

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:53 PM
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86. You've repeatedly posted broken links and not fixed them when asked about it.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:54 PM by JVS
Here's the full one because I'm nice like that.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misogamy

I'm sure it was unintentional, but it's been terribly annoying all the same.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:24 PM
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45. The anti-American Elton John.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 09:25 PM by Kristi1696
Who is he to tell Americans to go to hell?

ETA: My original post there had a good bit of sarcasm in it. And faux outrage to counter the faux outrage over Reverend Wright.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:28 PM
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55. potty mouthed pop stars
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AmericanUnity Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:17 PM
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34. I quit caring about Elton John after Yellow Brick Road. His voice and songs got too whimpy for me
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:22 PM
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41. There is more to him then his music
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:26 PM
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49. That more than cancels out the $2.5 million he raised for her
:thumbsup:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:27 PM
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50. His version of "Cheddar Cheese Girl" was to die for
Oh oh, you're my cheddar cheese girl
You're soft but firm, and you go well with wine
Oh oh, cheddar cheese girl
Cheddar, cheddar cheese girl
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:28 PM
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53. Hilarious, Sniffa!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:30 PM
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123. You taste so good on broccoli, you're my cheddar cheese girl
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:28 PM
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52. EltonJohnGate :P
Seriously screw you Elton John!!

We are working hard to change this country and your comments DO NOT HELP!!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:29 PM
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57. Thanks for posting.


K&R
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:46 PM
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75. No problem, neighbor.
:hi:

Some kind of pollen out there in the ATL, eh?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:31 PM
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59. Gee what would a gay man in America know about discrimination?
I can't imagine.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:43 PM
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128. Elton would know
That in his own country the UK, he and his partner are legally and equally married, but that in the USA, his partner's home country, that Union is not recognized due to discrimination, rooted in homophobia, which is founded on misogny.
He would also know that these unjust laws apply to his household, in spite of the fact that he has paid more taxes to this country than many large corporations. He has raised more money for chairities here than anyone posting here, make that everyone posting here, on every thread, for a month.


How dare he say some Americans bear prejudices, I mean what kind of a man would get up and say that? In front of 7 flags and including his grandma by name, the very candidate supported by those who are 'offened' at this comment, said most Americans bear prejudices, did he not? And of course both Obama and Elton are correct on that.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:31 PM
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60. To hell with Americans? So, he's a hero like Reverend Wright around here then
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:34 PM
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64. Or Limbaugh or Hannity et al.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:51 PM
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85. You know poster was mocking you don't you??
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:03 PM
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99. No, no, no....he didn't say "God Damn America"
not the same thing.....


move along...nothing to see hear
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:24 PM
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116. Right.. Moving along.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:26 PM
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118. lol....love that!
:D he better run faster, though!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:33 PM
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63. To hell with you Elton John
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:38 PM
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69. ~~~~YOU ROCK JOHN~~
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:45 PM
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74. He's friends with Eminem,
of course he thinks Americans are misogynists.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:47 PM
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77. And Bill!
;)
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:50 PM
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81. Wonder if the Big Doggie was offended when Elton slammed misogynists...
:shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:55 PM
Original message
why would he be?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:56 PM
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93. You know why...
And so does he.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:02 PM
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98. bill and Hillary and Chelsea are together as a family. Stop with any smears
you may have on your mind.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:05 PM
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103. It's not what's on Jefferson Dem's mind that worries me...
It's what's on Bill's mind...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:10 PM
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106. keep your gutter mind to yourself.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #106
112. Lol!
I love it!

:rofl:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:04 PM
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102. Glad you picked up where I was going with that.
Mr. Clinton does not have the greatest track record as far as respect for women goes.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:46 PM
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76. Good for Elton!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:50 PM
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82. Hahahaha! This thread is precisely indicative of how low Obama supporters have sunk.
Elton John now targeted.

LMFAO!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:04 PM
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101. LET IT SINK!!!@@22
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:06 PM
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105. Is it any worse than a pastor with 30 years of community service?
:shrug:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:47 PM
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131. This pastor?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:53 PM
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88. BREAKING: FOREIGN ALLY OF CLINTON INSULTS AMERICA
IS CLINTON ANTI-AMERICAN!?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:55 PM
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91. Is Elton John implying that if you don't support the Clinton Machine, you're a misogynist?
Was Bill on the stage when Elton said this? Yunno, Bill, the guy that was...oh never mind.. ferchrissakes, when the hell is Hillary dropping out...


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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 09:58 PM
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95. Honestly, how many of you don't have the GUTS to be honest about this?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:14 PM
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109. I hope you're kidding...are millions of women who support Obama "misogynists"?
It is an intellectually dishonest argument to think that if you don't support a woman politician that you are a "misogynist".

Are people who think Condi Rice is a liar "misogynists"? If I don't like Libby Dole, am I a "misogynist"? I can't stand Ann Coulter...so I'm a "misogynist"?

Hillary Clinton has run a nasty and failing campaign, voted for Bush's war in Iraq and is a pathological liar. It's NOT "misogyny" to point out the truth.

I wish Hillary Clinton had the GUTS to drop out...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:11 PM
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107. You have a reading comprehension problem or stupid --take you pick.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:19 PM
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111. OK Einstein...what is it...yes or no?
The question:

If you don't support Hillary Clinton, you are a misogynist (even if you are a woman)?

Yes or No

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:51 PM
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133. The question:
Einstein, is what did Elton say, not how you characterize what he said. He said some people in this country have misogyistic attitudes. I assumed he meas the media, whom he is not so fond of, and which does hold those attitudes.
Elton John said nothing untrue. Do you claim that no one in this country has misogynistic attitudes? Yes or No?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:28 AM
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195. Oddly, Elton brings up misogyny at a Hillary concert...
Are there still misogynistic attitudes in the country? Yes.

More pertinent is why would Elton bring up how misogynistic attitudes suck at a Hillary concert. Surely he was trying to link misogynistic attitudes with those that don't support Hillary, no? Maybe he could have condemned McDonald's while he was at it...
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:45 AM
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197. It is an issue of the campaign
His Hillary support most likely stems from Obama's use of McClurkin. McClurkin stood at Obama's concert and openly attacked not Hillary, but all gay people, without apology. Elton is a fan of Gospel music and would be, as I have been, aware of McClurkin both as a musician and in his later role as minister of prejudice. Musician vs musician. While you may not understand it at all, Obama's McClurkin events were very personal to many of us in showbusiness, on levels not shared by the general population. Like it or not, those evnets and the subsequent handling of them by Obama was probably the deciding factor in Elton's household, which is half American, half British, and 100% Gay. Legally married in the UK, legally strangers in the US. Because of misogynistic attitudes in this country.
Misogyny is the cornerstone of homophobia. Some of us live with it daily. He was linking misogynistic attitudes to those who have them and those who promote them. The hope is that those people will change and reject those bigotries. Offending misogynists is not exactly a big worry for those of us who oppose them. Let me offer a nice quote from a great American:

"Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve their reputation or social standing never can bring about reform. Those who are really in earnest are willing to be anything or nothing in the world's estimation, and publicly and privately, in season and out, avow their sympathies with despised ideas, and bear the consequences." -- Susan B. Anthony

And one from another American:
"Traveling around the world, sitting with the president, this means more than anything to me.----Donnie McClurkin referring to George W Bush and his personal priorities.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:06 PM
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104. That's edgy? He's right.
Some of the people in this country are flat out misogynist. The only difference between Elton and I is that I'm no longer amazed.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:12 PM
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108. ah, the Clinton haters now ripping on Elton
What a bunch of hateful whiny little fucktards.

The guy's a legend, and he's doing a fundraiser for a DEMOCRAT! We should all be happy.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:29 PM
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122. Let's see how much dirt we see kicked up on here about Elton John in ...oh, say the next day or so?
maybe a week....who knows? :puke:

I don't put anything past the GoBots!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 09:05 PM
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214. Yeah, isn't that the way it goes
Double :puke:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:15 PM
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110. I disagree, and to quote my man, Boy George
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 10:17 PM by crankychatter
"America knows a good queen when they see one."

SHAME ON YOU, ELTON JOHN
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:20 PM
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113. I bleieve Elton has a point. Maybe he looked over some of the
obama supporters posts before he gave his concert.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:43 AM
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147. :-)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:20 PM
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114. lectured by a brit....how nice.
i saw him during his first us tour for ten dollars and he rocked the fieldhouse in dekalb il...i doubt he was as good now as he was then...
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:32 PM
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125. Sullivan and Hitchens hector us almost every night.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:57 PM
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137. Sadly
A Brit is in a good position to lecture the US on backward attitudes around gender and sexuality. His legal UK marriage to an American is not legal here in America. So gee. Actual issue. From his actual life.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:05 PM
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139. Hitchens has credentials. Sullivan is a conflicted shrink's wet dream right wing tool.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:02 PM
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204. Sullivan can kiss my ass
I was refering to Elton John, whose marriage is legal in his home country but not here in his partner's, giving him a personal and rather obvious reason to speak about and aganst such attitudes.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:22 PM
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115. "Obama sure throws a mean bowling ball." Obama would look great with those huge boots.
Then his feet would match his gargantuan ego.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:25 PM
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117. Thats pretty weird.
It's silly enough to be called a hater of women because I am not thrilled with the one that is running.

One would think that Elotn John's words are no less offensive than Reverend Wright's. I wonder if Hillary will distance herself from him.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:26 PM
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119. If those who don't support Hillary are misogynists, then those who don't support Obama are racists
Same stupid logic...

:crazy:

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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:31 PM
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124. Hillary's campaign has set back female politicians for some time.
she should get out for the good of our sex in politics.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:41 PM
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127. I was just talking to my son about it over
the phone and he said.."so, did elton call some Americans misogynists because hilary is losing?" "Would he call Americans that if hilary were winning?" I thought that was a very good point.

Are we only misoginists because hilary is losing to Obama?
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:05 AM
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158. Hillary supporters have seriously lost their minds imo.
anyone can clearly see she will not win, and they have gone from throwing out just about anything as a measure of how she can win to accusing anyone who says something bad about her as being misogynistic.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:37 AM
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175. Maybe your son needs to learn some reasoning skills.
Could be helpful in life. Since when was Hillary "losing"?

Maybe remind your son that life isn't some junior high contest. :sarcasm:
His attitudes towards women could use a tune up as well.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:40 PM
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:51 PM
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134. Unfuckingbelievable........
Send that to Rush- He will just LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!!!

Especially this part:

Never knowing where BIll was clinging to
When the rain set in
And he would have liked to have bone you
If you were just an intern kid

You are sure to be a hit over at the FR.

:eyes:

grow up
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:56 PM
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135. Face it. Bill is the reason Hillary was never going to be President
Bill had more interest in his dong than his own wife. It also doesn't help that she's also a pathological liar as well, but he blew it (no pun intended) for her future as a presidential candidate.

As for Rush, he can go fuck himself. REAL Democrats are glad to see the Clinton Sand Castle being washed away.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:10 PM
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143. No...real Democrats don't get off on trashing good Dems with RW talking points
Pathetic.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:55 AM
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150. You are right-so many obama fans here talk just the RW--can't tell them apart many times
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:44 PM
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207. (Hint: Zulch isn't a real dem). Its the same poster who claims that Clinton "Let Osama go"
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:11 AM
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152. I thought your deleted post song was funny and I thought Elton's comment was funny as well
except how about "The legend burned out long before the candle ever did"
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:51 PM
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132. Well fuck you too, Elton John.
Of course, Hillary would have won if not for that misogyny. For there are no valid reasons for not liking Clinton politics.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:08 AM
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183. "The misogynist attitude of some of the people in this country"...
...is hardly Sir Elton's fault. Why be angry with him? He's right.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:57 PM
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136. she must reject and denounce Elton, and return the funds he raised for her
hows that!

Oh, and he also has said publicly that religion is a very bad thing.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:14 PM
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145. How dare a gay man in America think religion is bad!
:eyes:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:08 AM
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159. He's English, so it could be construed as an attack on "American Values"
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:18 AM
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196. He's married to an American
And they live in Atlanta. Their marriage is fully legal in the UK but not here. Homophobia is a subset of sexism. Those attitudes touch even the superstar Elton and his partner David, an American. Elton has also paid more taxes to the US than I have earned in a lifetime, or ever will. He lives here, pays taxes here for decades and is married to an American.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:01 AM
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173. Didn't You Know That Gays And Children Should Be Seen And Not Heard?
:sarcasm:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:02 PM
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138. Did Elton John say god d*** Americans. It's Ok , nevermind..*sigh*Bring back Randi statue of liberty
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 11:04 PM by cooolandrew
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:08 PM
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140. Elton saying what the rest of the modern world thinks
They're having quite a laugh at our expense. First Bush steals the election and spends 2 terms turning us into a bankrupt, third world banana republic.

Then half the country goes apoplectic out at the idea of electing a woman president.

And we have the most expensive, least effective health care system in the world.

We are the laughing-stock of the world.
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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:09 PM
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141. Well to hell with him then...
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:09 PM
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142. Elton John:
The Anti-McClurkin. Preach open homophobia and the Obama camp loves you.

Say some people have a misogynistic attititude, and they have a hissy fit.

Do you all think that no one in America has misogyinistic attitudes?

Really? None of the people in our Main Stream Media? Really? None of our people at all? Oh right, no such thing as sexism, and homophobia is just a great way to bait for votes.

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:23 PM
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146. Amazing how many people are defending misogynists here.

Can't say I'm surprised, but maybe some pizza is appropriate.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:45 AM
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148. he's right. nt
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:47 AM
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149. Obama of course wouldn't be caught dead on the same stage with Elton John, or any one else so...gay.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:16 AM
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153. Hahahahahaha! Yeah, you tell 'em Elton John! Give her some advice on some bookbags, too.
The kind with sequins and pretty shiny straps.

hahahahahaha.

I love it.
Elton John - Hillary's new bestest friend!

:rofl:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:18 AM
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154. Add this to the list of people that are dead to the Clintons...
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:18 AM by davidpdx
Americans
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:23 AM
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156. Elton, thank you for supporting Hillary!!!!!!!!!!
You're right: the hell with them!!!!!!!!!

Go Hillary!!!!

:bounce:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:24 AM
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157. "I never cease to be amazed at the misogynist attitude of...the people in this country,"
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:24 AM by anonymous171
HATEFUL, ANTI-AMERICAN, AND MISANDRIST! :grr: :evilgrin:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:03 AM
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174. Maybe You Need To Kick His Gay Ass
:sarcasm:
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:09 AM
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160. I can't discern real outrage, fauxtrage or parody outrage anymore. We shouldn't be fighting midweek.
AT LEAST have the decency to wait for the weekend.
Even Elton would agree that Saturday's alright for fighting.

:yoiks:
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:14 AM
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161. Begging for money. PATHETIC!!! Hey Bill why don't you
open your checkbook and write a check to those people that you have not paid for their services. PATHETIC!
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:25 AM
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162. Thank You Elton John!
You are more a hero to me today... than ever before!

What a generous and caring person!!

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:31 AM
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163. He's a great artist, but like many of them, an idiot about everything else.
Singers are free to give their opinions about politics, but most artists are painfully ignorant about real world politics. Hillary's strength is the ignorant, so his support of her is not surprising.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:48 AM
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177. An idiot about things like maybe gay rights? The fight against Aids?
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 07:57 AM by Marrah_G
These are things he was doing FAR before it was the cool thing to do. Back when doing so could jeapordize your career. Back when people were afraid to be in the same time zone with an Aids victim (or a gay person for that matter).

But yeah, he is just a clueless, ignorant entertainer.

:eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:45 AM
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164. Elton: "misogynist attitude of some of the people in this country," Right ON!!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:41 AM
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176. Sad is the dismissive attitude some of the Obama supporters are passing
on to their children. Not much to be proud of.

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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:41 PM
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206. It is discouraging, isn't it?
We'll just have to wait see how those children will feel about things... after their parents fu** up the Supreme Court for them.....

You know, when they have to go back to square one on women's rights and reproductive freedom....

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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:51 AM
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178. "I'm a BITCH, I'm a BITCH, oh the BITCH is back"
Sir Elton John, the worlds biggest HYPOCRITE!! :rofl:

I can see why he likes Hillary. :eyes:
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:26 AM
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186. Good point.
But then this is the same Elton John who screamed "racism" because of the results of American Idol.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:59 AM
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202. That song
Is about Elton. He's singing about the way people see him, and taking the term as his own. Or rather, Bernie did that for him.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:52 AM
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179. As a woman, I'm really sick and tired of this perceived victimhood.
If Hillary isn't winning, apparently it's because we all hate women. Baloney. She's running a lousy campaign, people. That's the problem. She's gotten terrible advice from overpaid shills and she's losing. It has nothing to do with being a woman. She began her campaign by assuming she'd already run and that was poor judgement. Other women have become heads of state and no one seems to mind. Thatcher, Merkel and others. It's not the gender that is the problem, it's the person.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:53 AM
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180. Why am I not surprised when HRC's supporters play the perpetual victim card? How Clintonian of him.
Clintonian strategy of "STOP, you're picking on me ONLY because <fill in the blank>!"

Waaaaaa!!! :eyes:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:07 AM
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182. Shinning the light on sexism is NOT playing the victim
I am so tired of that attack.

Acknowledging that it exists is the first step in eradicating it.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:32 AM
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188. Not quite. Pointing out that it exisits with specific concrete examples is the first step..
..making blanket claims of sexism as the general excuse of everything doesn't help eradicate it, in fact it only reinforces it.

I applaud those DUers who have chosen not to politicize the term sexism by making blanket accusations and instead focus on specific examples of how sexism rears its ugly head in our society, such as how the media responded to Clinton in Texas.

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:44 AM
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192. Blanket claims of sexism rather than specific examples?
Who ever said it was the general excuse. People are refusing to LISTEN. Dismiss the allegations. Don't look at the facts. Pretend it is not really there--just loosers whining.

I have never said it was a general excuse for everything. But, to deny that it is not present in this election you have to purposefully ignore a ton of facts that are before you daily.

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:58 AM
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194. Lots of things are present in this election. Sexism, Racism, Classism - we should be discussing
specifics.

Just saying "there's so much sexism" makes people feel like all criticism is being attacked in a disingenuous way by throwing around the term "sexist."

Instead of seeing so many threads saying things like "the rampant sexism at DU" or "the sexism in this campaign" I think it would be much better if people started being specific, because the specific examples of sexism ARE really compelling.

-- Media and DU reaction/characterization to "emotional" Clinton
-- Media and DU reaction to her anger in Texas against what she felt were unfair ads by the Obama campaign
-- Specific media figures who are allowed to be sexists, such as Chris Matthews
-- And so on.

When we get specific, its not as easy for people to feel like we're politicizing the issue or trying to use "sexism" as a political tactic against "all" criticism.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:55 PM
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213. Yes, Sir elton john was parroting
the clinton victimhood line and blaming hilary's losing on anything but hilary's rotten campaign..and throwing in a "and they can go to hell, too."

Backatcha, elton.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:12 AM
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184. Elton Rocks...Hillary Rocks
Thanks for the post.

Go Hillary!!!

:kick:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:22 AM
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185. VILE! VILE! VILE!
denounce and reject denounce and reject
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 08:35 AM
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189. I'm sure Elton's opinion is really going to turn the tide
(snort)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 10:48 AM
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:00 PM
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209. I agree. To Hell with Misogynists.
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 06:08 PM by last1standing
But to Hell with those who try to put up strawman arguments as well.

I'm fine with Elton John saying what he did just as I supported the Dixie Chicks when they commented on bush*. Whether I agree with what he says isn't important in that respect. He exercised his right.

Unfortunately, he decided to use that right to imply that Obama supporters are misogynists which is not only untrue but uncalled for. It is inappropriate just as it would be inappropriate for George Clooney to imply that all Clinton supporters are racists from the stage at the Oscars.

Also, some might consider it a bit misogynistic to marry a woman to use her as a cover to hide your homosexuality from the public. Glass houses and all.....
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