*****THIS JUST IN: Obama still unelectable despite polling better (winning) vs. McCain than Clinton

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

Gallup:
Obama 51, Clinton 43

Obama 45, McAssIsGrass 44
McConfusedonIraq 46, Clinton 46

Obama also outperforms Clinton nationally in the yesterday's Rasmussen, though neither Dem polls ahead of Mayor McCheese in these head-to-heads:
Obama 51, Clinton 40

Obama 45, McCan't 47
Clinton 43, McCuckoo 47

UPDATE thanks to POST #6 from AS below: today's Rasmussen has Obama UP on McChristmasIsNeverComing 46-45 and Clinton down to him 47-44!

Double-digit lead, but barely for Obama in NC. Another SUSA outlier or actual Clinton movement?
Obama 49, Clinton 39

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

[saltpoint]

1. Ain't buyin' it.

We whomp the GOP in November.

Senator Obama is the likely nominee.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

2. more than "likely," IMHO. He IS the nominee. And will be president.

[saltpoint]

4. Yep. Obama's campaign has been sure-footed and smart from the

beginning, outflanking Sen. Clinton in Iowa, nearly defeating her in NH, and then running very strongly on Feb. 5th.

And shortly after that, he buried her in Wisconsin. Obama appears to have planned and planned well for the long haul; Clinton thought she'd have it in the bag by Feb. 5th.

[Beacool]

7. He might end up being the nominee.

As for president, it's too soon to tell.

[still_one]

5. There is no ambiguity on what the issue is, it is Iraq. mccain made his position very clear

open ended prescence in Iraq with likely expansion of the war into Iran

Either Democratic candidate will start getting us out of Iraq. Besides the immorality of this war based on a lie, the monetary cost we can't afford

The Supreme Court under a mccain verses either Democrat is quite clear. It will be a continuation of the bush policy

Whether it is social security, healthcare, jobs, we have never had a clearer choice

That the MSM even try to label mccain as a moderate, is absurd. His voting record is wide open as an extreme right winger

I hope the American public have finally had enough of the bush administration, because if they haven't, they will have a bush administration on meth with mccain

[Bake]

39. That's what we said about Dukakis, too.

I wouldn't take anything for granted.

Bake

[lastliberalintexas]

41. Seriously

After the corporate media takes their shots at our nominee and the electoral college does its voodoo, I will just be happy if the Dem nominee wins by 5 votes. This landslide talk is rather scary to me. :shrug:

[CoffeeCat]

3. The GE race...

...hasn't even begun.

I don't believe any of these polls that match up the Dem candidates against McCain.

Both of our Dem candidates will take him to the cleaners.

It hasn't even begun yet.

These polls are utterly and completely useless.

Please remember that Dem primary attendance has increased 100 percent from the last primary.
This has not been true on the Republican primary side.

We'll have plenty of McCain/Dem nominee polls to evaluate---when the GE starts.

For now, these numbers mean absolutely nothing.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. TODAY'S Rasmussen also has Obama ahead of McCaint, 46-45.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

[goclark]

10. Amazing and great

I can't believe there are that many dumb people in the world that would even consider voting for McCain.


Where are these stupid people living?

[lastliberalintexas]

42. Texas

Trust me on this. :(

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

14. thanks, A-S

[Name removed]

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[GrandmaJones7]

11. -and today he shoots himself in the foot by announcing

-unilateral negociations with that genocidal maniac leader of Iran, Amadinijad.

Obama - buh-bye!

Hillary! - You GO girl! It was YOU all along! Hillary in '08!

[Hippo_Tron]

15. "Genocidal maniac leader of Iran, Ahmadinejad"

Do you know anything about foreign affairs at all or do you just watch Fox news and repeat it verbatim?

[Submariner]

16. genocidal maniac leader of Iran, Amadinijad ???

Link to his Amadinijad genocide?

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

17. I can't wait for post #60!!!

[L0oniX]

19. Do you have your cheer leader uniform on?

[Forkboy]

20. Comedy like this is what keeps me coming back.

:rofl:

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

26. it's good stuff. they tell bar jokes, too.

[Kittycat]

51. I know - I was thinking about taking the remaining Holdout whackjobs off of ignore

just purely for some new laugh material.

[redqueen]

27. It's unreal is it not?

I swear... a laugh a minute... easy. :D

[Binka]

30. Go Pound Sand Grandma

Go to work for Fox & Friends.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

32. Hey, where did Name Removed go?

[Binka]

44. GrandmaJones7

How will we know when she is TSed? She had a disabled profile. Oh well I guess we can hope it has already been done. What a royal DOUCHEBAG.

[sniffa]

45. The profile gets turned on once they're gone

[Auntie Bush]

37. Welcome GrandmaJ

We neeeeed you!

[loveangelc]

21. will you vote for obigot in november?

oh, and guess what, polls change throughout the year. That seems to be a shock to some. Trust me, if Hillary were running against Mccain, her numbers would plummet with her poorly thought out camapaign. Ohio's numbers will change. FLorida's may or may not for Obama, but Hillary would lose FL too if she would have been our nominee.

[Auntie Bush]

38. For someone who isn't psychic...you sure got all the answers.

aka a know-it-all.

[loveangelc]

49. or maybe I have common sense and have followed elections since 2000 closely enough to know

that polls change dramatically throughout the election. May I also remind you that the last poll of PA had Bush up 5 points and Kerry up 4 or 5 in Ohio.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. As long as we are in primaries and McShame is in GE

he will trend better.

Pollster, to Obama supporter: In a match up between Obama and McCain who will win?
Obama Supporter: Obama.
Pollster: And between Clinton and McCain?
Obama supporter: McCain

Pollster, to Cliinton supporter: In a match up between Obama and McCain who will win?
Obama Supporter: McCain.
Pollster: And between Clinton and McCain?
Obama supporter: Clinton.

Of the four responses, two favor McCain, while only one each favors Obama or Clinton.

Therefore, obviously, McCain is going to win.

Riiiight.

[madrchsod]

12. obama 55%-john-45% in the general election

obama won`t blow him out like he did keyes but it`s still going to be brutal

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

13. I agree.

If these head-to-heads came after even some of the supposed "defectors" returned to vote D, then this thing is OVER.

[PA Democrat]

18. I think that the interesting thing about Obama is that it seems that the more the electorate gets to...

know him, the more his poll numbers improve. Hillary was pretty much a known entity with most voters, as is McCain. I think Obama's numbers will continue to improve as more people see/ hear him.

[madrchsod]

22. i know he picked up 6 republicans

because they won`t vote for a woman and big john is cutting/not voting for their veterans benefits..all are Vietnam vets. i think there maybe more of these guys than we think...

[cliffordu]

23. There are a lot of us, yep -

I'm a lifelong D, but I know a couple ex-republican Vietnam vets who now hate the whole republican machine for what they've done to the Veterans benefits. McCain loses votes every time this subject comes up.

They deserve a special place in hell, these Repubs....

I 'd vote for a woman. I just don't want to vote for Hillary.

[corkhead]

50. It should turn out to be like Clinton v Dole

"Sharp as a tack" v "doddering old fool"

[totodeinhere]

24. How misleading can you get.

Obama outperforms Clinton in everyone of those polls that you posted, yet your subject line is "Obama still unelectable." A more correct interpretation of those polls would be "Obama more electable than Clinton."

I am getting sick and tired of Clinton supporters trying to parse words to make Clinton look better than she really is. When are these desperate disingenuous tactics ever going to stop?

[redqueen]

28. Is joke!

:hi:

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

31. thank you, redqueen. smiles, everybody.

[totodeinhere]

33. Sorry.

I didn't realize it was a joke because I have seen so much of this thing going on when they are serious.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

35. it's hard to tell the lunatics from the real lunatics sometimes. don't sweat it.

[Auntie Bush]

40. When Obie has enough delegates to win!

Wonder when that will be? :shrug:

[crankychatter]

25. They need a close GE to effectively cheat

that's why they want Clinton

I've been saying it for months, based on the polls

Only since Clinton went berserker was there a moderate drop for Obama v McCain in the General... her negatives went up and per polls, she still loses.

Obama still wins

He has an amazing ability to change polls... I think November could be the biggest landslide in US History, personally.

But Clinton may make sure that doesn't happen, by staying in despite no chance of winning the nomination. and depriving Obama of much needed campaign time. I think it's her handlers decision and NOT personal ambition. They'll jump ship and finance McCain in August. Just watch.

They know exactly what they're doing, and, they are NOT forgiven.

[redqueen]

29. berserker?

:rofl:

Thanks... now I've got that stupid song in my head. :P

[otohara]

34. They Are Wrong, Hillary Is Wright

GoBama

[Buzz Clik]

36. Unelectable, Gracie?

[Cha]

43. THIS JUST IN*****!

hilary's a LOSER and Obama's going to win the Presidency and our country will finally start on it's long journey to doin' a 180!

[jgraz]

46. Translation: Obama still black despite polling better (winning) vs. McCain than Clinton

That's really the Clinton campaign's message. There's really no other way to interpret what they're saying at this point.

[Political Heretic]

47. When Obama is the nominee (and he will be) we are going to kick GOP ass up and down America

Which is why I want DYING TO GET THIS FRACKING PRIMARY PROCESS BEHIND US.

You think I'm ENJOYING the party bickering and infighting??? I am chomping at the BIT to UNLEASH THE FRACKING FURY on McAsshat!!!

Saving money from my summer full time job, siphoning money from my student aid to donate, donate, donate, donate in the general! (Already donated several times in the primary).

[Political Heretic]

48. PS - I just realized.. donating out of my student aid is doing my part for federally funded election

:rofl:

[samsingh]

52. go Obama go