Mad as Hell - Join the Protest - NYC 4/11 8AM

[sniffa]

This first video is about the sexism in this campaign from beginning until now and is the best mashup I've yet to see.

The video title is Mad as Hell/Bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

NYC Protest
The second video is calling for a protest event in NYC Friday, April 11 at 8AM. The event is at Rockefeller Plaza, the HQ of NBC. More details at the event webpage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceym55Xlmzg

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/7/1248/16172
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Someone was too scared to post this in GDP, so I thought I'd do a good deed. Also, this was posted by a long lost DUer on the site linked.

You're welcome.

[Name removed]

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[Tatiana]

2. Well...

I think the idea for the video is a bit clever.

And my hat's off to anyone organizing a protest. It's hard work.

[sniffa]

5. My hat's off to anyone organizing a protest

against the Iraq war, or for workers' rights, or against genocide, or countless other worthy causes. Even Free Mumia has more credibility than this.

[Coexist]

64. Free Mumia...

now don't get me started!

[redqueen]

96. Hah... the Iraq War...

ironic.

[leftofcool]

3. All this sexism in the media is going to hurt Obama if he wins the

nomination. Contray to the naysayers, the female vote is one of the largets voting blocs in the country. In my state alone, there is a movement to "stop the vote" signed by women who have pledged to stay home in November if Hillary is not the nominee because of media slurs. The last time I checked, there were over 300,000 names on the list. That is a lot of women in one state so imagine this spreading to other states.

[Whisp]

4. will you be attending this demonstartion?

:rofl:

[leftofcool]

7. And this is your business because........?

[GarbagemanLB]

10. So basically if Hillary doesn't win, you take your ball and go home? How mature!

[leftofcool]

14. Not me but perhaps 300,000 others

[Diana Prince]

62. I hope you try and talk them out of this.

Voting for whoever the Dem nominee is the only solution. I am not a fan of Hillary's but I will vote for her. There is just to much at stake, Iraq, Iran, Scotus, federal judges, economy. Mcshame will screw us over on every single one of these issues. I for one am not willing to take that chance.

[rodeodance]

88. I hope you help cool down the vile smears jobs done on Hillary.

[Diana Prince]

92. Are you saying you will vote for Obama if he is the nominee? n/t

[rodeodance]

93. I do not respect Rovian style changing the subject comments.

[Diana Prince]

95. No subject change.

I said I would vote for the Dem nominee. I then asked if you would, after you replied to my response to someone else. Do you think it is more important for a Dem to win than Mcshame? That is the only thing that matters. If you feel that Hillary has been unfairly attacked then that is fine, just as my feeling that Obama has been unfairly attacked. The question still remains, are you going to vote for the Dem nominee no matter who it is?

[BlueIdaho]

91. 300,000?

They will be lucky to get 1,000 - I mean really - if you can't even get 300,000 to show up to protest the war? How did you arrive at this number?

[sniffa]

15. Eh, let them go

Dozens of malcontents will never outnumber the massive numbers being brought in by the Obama campaign. Let them take their ball and choke on it.

[JVS]

19. That's right. The haters are hopeless basket cases.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

13. That doesn't make any sense? Give the election to McShame?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

38. So you're mad at the media and will take it out on Obama?

[AnnieBW]

44. I hope those 300,000 women remember the Supreme Court

and the fact that two liberal justices are hanging on by their fingernails. But no, they'd rather take the chance of losing the right to a safe, legal abortion if their candidate doesn't get the nomination.

Support your candidate of choice in the primary. If they don't win, suck it up and support the DEM nominee in November!

[TheDoorbellRang]

54. How mature of them

Jeez...

Any women who don't plan on voting this fall if Hillary doesn't get the nomination aren't women. They're girls.

[Beacool]

75. What the hell does it have to do with maturity?

Anyway, Obama is the one with the kids demographics. There are plenty of people who don't think that Obama is fit to be president. Get it? It's not just about Hillary.

[TheDoorbellRang]

84. Not voting for the democratic nominee this fall is passive support for McCain

Not voting for the democratic nominee this fall guarantees four more years of failed policies: more conservatives on the SCOTUS, more war, more economic disaster, more job loss, more ignoring of global warming. And these people would invite this disaster upon us all because voters did not pick the woman in the race?

Passive agression is NOT mature. Get it? It's not just about Hillary.

I support Obama for president. I've no beef with Hillary supporters on this board. But anyone who is NOT VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT this fall or openly supports those who think that would be a cute plan should get the HELL off this board.

[MagickMuffin]

68. Good to know that they don't cherish the Woman's Movement

How petty and selfish of them to set the woman's movement back into the dark ages if THEY choose to sit at home and not vote for the Democratic nominee.

Oh, well these women will show us. They'll show us how stupid they really are when it comes to women's rights:shrug:

There are already two Supreme Court justices who are Corporate Judges. McCaineyBush will seat some more if he wins. But you and the other 300,000 sit it out and don't complain when you're rights are gone.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

69. What if she's not the nominee for other reasons besides media slurs?

What if she just loses because Obama is running a better campaign?

[Beacool]

74. Hmmm, that gives me an idea.

You are in MD, right?

[dwahzon]

83. How foolish

These women are hurting themselves and the future of their children by signing such a pledge. I too am totally offended by the sexism displayed in the media and I speak as a 50-something white woman who's personally experienced sexism. BUT, I am not so deluded as to think that because sexism has been displayed and amply documented, that that means that Hillary must be the President.

Hillary must win the presidency on her own merits. That sexism has reared its ugly head once again does not mean that the presidency must be given to Hillary as a consolation prize. People focused on the sexism should instead do a better job of selling Hillary on her merits.

In my opinion, though she is a good candidate, Obama is better. There are a number of items that support that view, IMO, which I will not go into here. The point is that the decision about who should be president needs to be made WITHOUT REGARD TO GENDER. Those women who are signing these pledges are headed in the wrong direction and anyone who supports them in doing so is not helping them.

When Obama wins the nomination, Hillary will, WILL, turn around and graciously commit all her support to Obama.

Are her supporters going to be less gracious? Are her supporters going to fail to follow her example? Sure sounds like that's what is being proposed here and Hillary will be the first one to tell you that it's wrong.

[JayFredMuggs]

86. if Hillary is not the nominee because of media slurs?

"if Hillary is not the nominee because of media slurs"

Get a clue, Hillary will NOT be the nominee because she LIES, and cannot be trusted.

[Jim Sagle]

6. Thanks, sniffa. You're aces with me.

Even if you support the wrong candidate. ;-)

[OzarkDem]

8. Where did you guys find this web site?

Suddenly within the space of half an hour, every Obama supporter is linking to a web site that was just started a short while ago.

[leftofcool]

11. I am surprised at this, since they usually go looking for RW smut on Hillary

then become pleased with themselves when they link to it

[OzarkDem]

25. Wonder why

they're publicizing an alleged Clinton supporter web site and why they're encouraging Clinton supporters to attend this rally?

[americanstranger]

71. It's all part of our evil, sinister plot

to get you walking around Manhattan at 8AM on a weekday.

:tinfoilhat:

- as

[Yael]

16. Youtube.com?

Nah -- its not a secret. Lots of people know about youtube.

[sniffa]

18. Youtube is anti-Hillary

I'm sick of their Ctrl+Sexism. :grr:

[Symarip]

28. If the protest doesn't work, youtube will be dead to them nt

[tammywammy]

24. Youtube? MyDD?

Been around awhile now...

[OzarkDem]

26. Nope

hasn't been around a while.

[tammywammy]

29. Yeah I'd say they have

Mydd has been around since 2001 and Youtube since 2005.

[sniffa]

32. And MYDD is posted several times a day here

by a certain candidate's supporters, as one of the only "fair" websites around. It's praised along with FoxNews for their unbiased information.

[tammywammy]

34. They're brand new site I tell ya!!!!!

LOL

[Yael]

39. Just started last week!!1! I'm series!!1!11

[Yael]

31. "YouTube was created in mid-February 2005"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube

:shrug:

[donheld]

77. Boy did you show your ignorance here

Both those websites have been all over DU for years.

[Faygo Kid]

42. Our cult leaders know all, see all.

Klaatu Barada Nikto ("Yes We Can")

[Yael]

9. You called that one!

I wondered where it had been hiding.

Yanno, this is almost worth calling Amtrak and picking me up a ticket.

Y'all want to come down from Boston and join me? We can take pictures. Would have to be careful though -- between you, me and Bi-Baby, we wouldn't want to outnumber them and steal their thunder (assuming that many can get the principle's permission to take a day off...)

[sniffa]

12. Heh. I wish I could

But I work. If it were on a weekend, I may have taken part.

[Yael]

17. I'm just looking for reasons NOT to go to work

:P

[sniffa]

27. Maybe I could call in hungover?

:o

[Yael]

36. In advance!

Meet you at the Manhattan Plaza at 7:30 for bloody marys.

Come to think of that -- it would probably take that for me to watch this spectacle unfold.

*snicker*

[anonymous171]

20. Check out this comment:

"These male media should be ashamed of themselves. They are disgusting. They represent uncivilized world, still in stoneage.

Shame on you male media of USA. They should hand their head in shame."

How do I "hand my head", exactly?

[Yael]

22. Please. If you weren't still in stoneage, you would know the answer to that.

[Ken Burch]

79. "stoneage"...Isn't that that mysterious ancient rock thing in England?

n/t.

[sniffa]

23. Hand your head is code

for hopeless campaign in flames, I think.

[Forkboy]

67. That HAS to be a certain someone here big on shame and bad spelling.

[weezie1317]

21. I wish the HRC in the video was the real HRC. I'd vote for her. ()

[OzarkDem]

30. Why do Obama supporters want to publicize a pro-Clinton rally?

Do tell...

[GarbagemanLB]

33. So Obama supporters will show up and make the protest interesting...

[tammywammy]

35. Why not? Helping out the Hillary supporters on the board

:shrug:

[OzarkDem]

45. Umm, no thanks

Your "help" we can do without.

[tammywammy]

46. Then feel free to ignore the thread

:shrug:

[sniffa]

52. I agree with you

as I'm ignoring whomever you're responding to.

[tammywammy]

56. LOL

He doesn't want your "help"


You like my new Obama Logo? Buddy Christ looooooveeess Obama!

[sniffa]

58. I do like it

And I don't care to help actually. They don't need me to add gasoline to their burning, bright, self-immolation. :D

[Yael]

37. Its not a rally, it is a protest against "unfair elections"

[Tatiana]

47. I wish this group had headed down to Florida in 2000. n/t

[Faygo Kid]

40. Because it's ridiculous. It's a "Protest" for Clinton, not a "Rally" for Clinton

It's funny. Desperate, too. Instead of a public rally, they call a protest. It's just in line with where her supporters have been going - she's not winning, so the solution must be to protest, instead of to rally in her support.

That's the last serious comment I intend to make on the subject. Can't wait for the video.

[apocalypsehow]

41. Okay, I went and watched both videos. Count me as officially confused.

:shrug:

[sniffa]

49. You're not the only one

The ones agreeing with it are too.

[apocalypsehow]

57. LOL! Finally, the light dawns in apocalypsehow's addled head...

:think:

It took me a bit, but the fog finally cleared (it's been a long day). :toast:

[anonymous171]

43. That video is just a bunch of clips where republicans are attacking her (Olb. aside)

[rug]

48. This place is just a bunch of posts where Democrats are attacking her.

[Yael]

50. Wrong thread

Up in here, we are pretty much :popcorn: at the "protest of the unfair election"

[rug]

53. Wrong thought.

It's about media coverage, not unfair elections.

[Yael]

59. Thats not what my invitation said

Hillary Clinton Supporters Taking Action!!! Please join in our contest!!!

Attn: All media organizations

Re: Hillary Supporters Demonstration

When: April 11th at 8:00am

Where: Rockefeller plaza, NYC

Why: We are all very passionate Hillary Clinton supporters that demand to be heard for Hillary! We refuse to stand by and watch this election become corrupt and unfair!!

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=4212

:shrug:

[rug]

60. Read it s-l-o-w-l-y.

"Protest against Media Bias"

[Yael]

61. That was added later -- after the original invite went out

Read the "why" -- it is a protest against "unfair elections".

If they are so all-fired concerned about media bias, where were they when Edwards and Kooch were ignored?

Face it -- it is a convention of low information voters who are worshiping at the feet of someone who is within 2 weeks of dropping out of the race.

[rug]

63. Is "low information voter" code for stupid Democrats who are skeptical of Obama?

[Yael]

65. If you take a minute to read through the tripe on that site

You will know exactly why the media calls her base "low information voters".

[rug]

66. Sorry, I've reached my daily limit of tripe. Nighty night.

[olkaz]

51. I dont get your point, you want DU to be on the video?

That'd be awfully exciting.

[rug]

55. As exciting as watching sociopaths set kittens on fire.

[olkaz]

82. You really aren't being very clear.

What are you trying to say?

[cottonseed]

70. Hey. I watched it and I was moved.

This video was a pretty good pro-Hill piece overall, does a good job of getting a point across. I'm still not a 3rd way kind of guy. So I'm sticking with Obama.

[redstate_democrat]

72. It's a shame they

have resorted to playing on the emotions of women who believe Hillary is the best they can do. These same people believe that nothing was wrong with the MSM's treatment of Obama via the Wright situation. They also see nothing wrong with the MSM's treatment of Obama in regards to the race issue. Hillary being a woman works for her because women are 50% of the population. Barack's race works against him and for Hillary as evidenced in a recent poll asking that question. These same people dismiss the AA vote saying that AA's are "only" voting for Obama because he is black, as if AAs are brainless twits or something. It is highly insulting. I could say these women are only voting for Hillary because she is a woman. This would be equally stupid. But judging propagandistic videos like this, where Hillary's gender is the sole focal point, I have no choice but to conclude this is the basis for a lot of her support...the fact she is a woman. It works for her. If Hillary was John Edwards, would she be getting this same support from these women? I doubt it.

Hillary would be thrown out of the race if she weren't who she is...and she is very lucky this is the case.

Anyway.

[chill factor]

73. I am a 66-year old female

I have voted since the days of John, Bobby, and Martin. I am in the age group Hillary depends upon for votes. I watched both of these videos. I have to say I am appalled that women would go to this extreme to support a candidate just because she is a woman. What audacity! Who in God's name do you think you are? I wish I was close enough to attend this rally - and do not put any other spin on it - it is a rally! It is not going to be a rally in protest of media bias, but a rally of despair! I would hold up a sign that said, "I am DAMNED ashamed of these women!" My, God, by the time the media gets done, Hillary and her supporters are going to look like idiots! The media is biased against Hillary? If not, they will be by the time this farce is over. I am sorry, but this is not the March on Washington. This is strictly a march in hopes of garnishing support for Hillary in the last desperate days of this campaign. I would suggest you women wear bags over your heads so the media cannot identify you - when you get home you do not want other people knowing how you are - they will laugh in your face. And you will accomplish just the opposite of what you set out to do - you will lose more votes for Hillary. OMG how dumb!

[DerekJ]

85. Well said chill factor,

[JayFredMuggs]

87. Great post! I agree 100% .......nt

[Beacool]

76. Wow!!

The "Mad as Hell" video was only posted 17 hrs. ago and it already has 445 comments.

Way to go!!!!

:bounce:

[McCamy Taylor]

78. The first video sure brings back memories. That was the women's movement of my youth.

And all those guys on the MSM are the ugly male chauvinist pigs of my youth, too. Who would have thought that kind of talk was still allowed. For shame.

I think a protest is in order. I wish I was going to be in NYC. I would picket all the networks. Maybe I should call my mom and see if she wants to fly in with me from Texas. This could be a once in a lifetime event.

[rodeodance]

89. I wish I could attend also

[ima_sinnic]

80. oh, waaah, clinton is losing, we must "protest" that the voters aren't voting for her

oh, boo hoo, life is SOOOOO unfair!! the delegates can't be convinced to go against the will of the voters, and the voters JUST DON'T LIKE HILLARY!!

I'm sure a "protest" is really going to convince people to vote for Hillary. :rofl:
and everyone is going to feel sooo sorry for her, the way the media is so "sexist" in giving her 24/7 coverage.
Gee, maybe we former Kucinich supporters might have had a shot, eh? if we had organized a protest against the media, and gone to the delegates on our knees, begging.

apparently NOTHING embarrasses her or her supporters. Desperation is now "cool," I guess.

[kevinmc]

81. This reminds me of those Whacko's that Screech "Breeder" at Pregnant women. .. n/t

[UALRBSofL]

90. LOL, sniffa is trying to stirr trouble again as usual.......

Anyway, this is just like moveon did last month except they had less support then Hillary has. :)

[bunnies]

94. Has anyone alerted C-Span?

This is some serious must see tv!

[sniffa]

97. ...

:rofl:

[mdmc]

98. kick