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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:01 PM
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BUTTE, Mont. -- Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton rolled into this legendary copper-mining town Saturday for that night's big state Democratic Party dinner, where they were to address some 4,000 Montanans electrified by the state's suddenly-relevant June 3 primary. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/05/a_s... )

The dinner is a big, big deal in Butte, which claims the title of birthplace of the American labor movement and which drew so many immigrants from far-flung lands to its mines that it likes to call itself "Butte, America, not Butte, Montana."

Today, the enormous hole in the ground right next to downtown that is the Berkeley Pit -- 1,780 feet deep and a mile and a half wide -- is being filled back up with old mining fill, the city's handsome 19th-century streets are lined with empty storefronts, and until this week the only bold-face name to visit the town in recent years was actor Matthew McConaughey, here for the funeral of local boy Evil Knievel.

Before heading over to the city civic center, Obama stopped by a local bar, the M&M Cafe, to shake some hands.



Before stopping at M&M Diner in Butte yesterday, Obama swung by his hotel to change out of his suit and into more casual garb, wearing a gray Columbia fleece and a casual button-down shirt sans the tie. When he got to the state's Mansfield-Metcalf dinner tonight, the suit was back on, but Obama was boasting of his desire to drink a beer. (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/06/86411... )

"I spent a little time in the M&M. I wanted to have a beer, but my staff wouldn't let me. They said you have to go talk we don't want you slurring your words," he told the crowd.

His emphasis on appealing to Western voters appeared to be more than just cosmetic, however. In his speech in Butte, Obama emphasized a message of personal resilience, declaring that people in the West's desire for good government had nothing to do with getting a handout. He also spoke about Native American affairs, promising that his administration would place a higher priority on their concerns than past administrations. Montana is home to 10 Native American tribes.

The trip underscored the senator's support in Western states, and he played up the idea that despite being poor in delegates, states like Montana may be rich in potential Democratic support.



I am absolutely convinced that this is our moment, this is our time, Obama told a packed Butte Civic Center. If you in Montana can stand up and fight for me we will win not just this nomination, but we will win the general election.

Obama, a U.S. senator from Illinois, walked to the podium at 6:40 p.m. to a prolonged standing ovation, as the crowd waved Montana Loves Obama signs. The cheering subsided after more than a minute, but erupted 70 times during the 41-minute speech.

After telling his audience Montana is just as important as any other state in the nominating process, Obama said he's running for president because he wants America to be a country that helps its citizens rather than telling them you're on your own.

We know that government cannot solve all of our problems, he said. We don't expect it to.

But that's not an excuse to spend another four years doing nothing. We don't want another four years of George Bush's can't-do, won't-do, won't-even-try type of politics. We're a better country than that.



Barack Obama said he supports environmentally sound ways to use coal and promised to appoint a high-level adviser on Indian issues if elected president.

Obama acknowledged his support of clean-energy technology might worry voters in a region that produces lots of coal.

"I know Montana's a coal state. My home state, Illinois, is a coal state, but we've got to make sure that we are investing in technologies that capture carbon because we can't sustain the planet the way that we're doing it right now," Obama said, speaking to 8,000 people at a college arena in Missoula, Mont. "Look at this incredible landscape around you. We've got to pass that on."




Obama talked about issues facing America's Native people during an interview with the Missoulian following his speech Saturday at the Adams Center.

In an interview after his speech, Obama talked about his proposal to significantly strengthen the government-to-government relationship between tribal nations and the White House.

A key to his Native policy platform includes creating a senior White House staff position filled by a Native person, recognizing that the Bureau of Indian Affairs hasn't provided Natives a clear channel of navigation.

My strong belief is you have the bureau, which is often treated as sort of a backwater by the White House, he said. Maybe it has access to the White House if there's a problem; otherwise, there's not that direct contact between tribal leaders and the president.

It's very important that there's somebody in my White House who on an ongoing basis is keeping me informed, keeping me abreast, said Obama. It's the same reason we want an annual summit with tribal leaders in the White House. I want tribal leaders all across the country to feel as if they have direct access to me, that they're not going through layers of bureaucracy.

When I look at the history of Montana and all the Native peoples have done to preserve their culture, when I think of what the pioneers went through to carve out a way of life for themselves, you're reminded that each generation passes on some obligations to work for the next generation.

This is long overdue, said Obama. I've consistently believed we have treaty obligations, we have moral obligations to make sure we improve health care for Native American communities. A lot of illnesses being experienced are preventable illnesses. For us not to make these investments is unacceptable.





And this, from Obama's speech at the Montana Democratic Party dinner last night:

I love this country not because its perfect, but because weve always been able to move it closer to perfection. Because through revolution and slavery; war and depression; great battles for civil rights and womens rights and workers rights, generations of Americans have shown their love of country by struggling and sacrificing and risking their lives to bring us that much closer to our founding promise. And as long as I live, I will never forget that I am only standing here because they did...

Its a country where the improbable love of my parents was actually possible; where my mother could raise me without much money but still send me to the best schools in the nation; a country where Ive seen hope triumph in neighborhoods that were devastated by joblessness and poverty; where Ive seen ordinary Americans find justice in a courtroom; where Ive seen progress made for working families who need leaders who are willing to stand up and fight for them.

That is the country I love. That is the promise of America. And in this election, if we can shed our cynicism and our doubts and our fears; if we remember that we rise or fall as one people, and that we can meet any challenge that comes our way if we meet it together, then I believe that this generation will do its part to perfect our union and keep our promise alive in the twenty-first century. Good night, God Bless, and as they say here in Butte, tap er light.






Watch Sen. Obama's Butte speech and interview here: http://montanasnewsstation.com/Global/category.asp?C=50...

Read Sen. Obamas speech here: http://thepage.time.com/obamas-remarks-at-montana-democ... /
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:06 PM
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1. Well, I'D like to Tap that Butte....
:evilgrin:
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:59 PM
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24. LOL
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:08 PM
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43. You shameless bastard
That was hilarious. I got tears.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:07 PM
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2. You're a class act and credit to HRC supporters K&R n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:09 PM
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3. This is a great thread!!!!


K&R!!!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:09 PM
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4. What does tap 'er light mean? n/t
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 07:13 PM by bbinacan
edit for spelling
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:24 PM
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15. I'd like to know too.
Anyone? :shrug:
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:12 PM
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47. see also:
Robert D. Geach Sr. wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:32 AM:

" I started my career as a miner in the Butte mines in 1947....Where I learned how to "tap her light."..The term refers to loading a hole with dynamite paper cartridges, which were slit lengthwise, and the first one in, the primer, fitted with a fused cap...When all the dynamite sticks were in, they were squashed gently and packed tightly by using a long wooden rod, like a broom handle, as a ram...Using a wooden stick was ideal since it wouldn't cause sparks to set off the dynamite, and you didn't want hard ramming that could set off the primer, like a percussion cap, at the bottom of the hole and you into "kingdom come"...hence, the term "tap her light." "

http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/02/13/opinion_t...

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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:25 PM
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17. It literally means, "take it easy," or "be careful and have a good day." It comes from the practice
It literally means, "take it easy," or "be careful and have a good day." It comes from the practice of setting explosives in the mines, they had to pack in certain types of explosive charges by carefully tapping them in with a hammer. Hit the charge too hard, or miss and strike a spark off of rock, and ka-BOOM! (grin)
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:26 PM
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18. Thanks for the info. n/t
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:03 PM
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37. So interesting how these old sayings evolve
I've always heard "tap 'er light" used in the context of when the bartender taps a glass of beer to not put much foam on the glass.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:15 PM
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44. that's what i thought they were talking about. a beer w/little foam.
and i RARELY drink...(but i used to... :evilgrin: :toast:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:10 PM
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5. Rec'd with thanks, bigtree. nt
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:10 PM
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6. Bigtree does it again!
Yet another enthusiastic report from the edge of democracy. Thanks for the reporting and the photos - top notch stuff!
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:12 PM
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7. Another awesome post...Thank you!!!
Barack is really eloquent on speaking of his love of country--sure beats a flag pin any day.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:16 PM
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8. Thanks Bigtree
:hi:
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:18 PM
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9. K&R
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:19 PM
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10. Thank you!
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 07:57 PM by jenmito
:)
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:20 PM
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11. A presidential candidate spoke to Natives?
I'm fucking floored. It's about damn time. And his approach to the situation? Not hte best (A restructuring of the BIA would be far better) but it's better than what's there now.

This man needs to be our president.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:42 PM
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36. Maybe a restructuring of the BIA would result from Obama having
a person in the White House advising him on Native American affairs. One change can effect another change, and so on...
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:06 PM
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38. Chimpy spoke to, or at least about natives too, and so very eloquently
One of my favorite bushisms.

REPORTER: What do you think tribal sovereignty means in the 21st century, and how do we resolve conflicts between tribes and the federal and state governments?
DUBYA: Yeah tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. It's you're a you're a you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity.
REPORTER: Okay.
DUBYA: And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:08 PM
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46. heh
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:32 PM
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48. Ah, yes, I remember it well. Idiocy upon idiocy, that man.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:22 PM
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12. Great coverage, bigtree, as usual.
NT
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:22 PM
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13. I'm falling for you,
even if you sleep with the other side! :loveya:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:22 PM
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14. Thank you.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:24 PM
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16. this big tree is casting a big shadow
from which we can all learn from
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:32 PM
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19. Thank you, Bigtree
Another marvelous contribution by you to DU. :hug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:35 PM
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20. K/R
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:35 PM
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21. Great post!
:thumbsup:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:36 PM
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22. Another big K&R for bigtree!
Thanks for your efforts!!

:kick:
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:38 PM
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23. Thanks, Bigtree, for another positive report.

--spent time in Butte this summer; good people, great civic pride. Bet the turnout for all candidates is terrific.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:07 PM
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25. He looks drunk in the last photo.
Maybe he actually had a full beer instead of pretending to drink one like he did in PA.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:14 PM
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26. tsk tsk
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 08:15 PM by landonb16
you can do better than this.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:22 PM
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27. bigtree - you are a big asset to DU..
whether or not you are a Obama or Clinton supporter. I appreciate your posts!

:hi:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:33 PM
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28. Thanks bigtree. K/R. Very nice article.
Thanks also for being a great person. I have come to truly admire you during these trying times.

Peace :thumbsup:


:kick:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:36 PM
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29. Thanks for posting!
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:42 PM
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30. Nice read Thanks
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:34 PM
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31. kick
:kick:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:49 AM
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32. morning kick
:kick:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:51 AM
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33. If you look "charisma" up in the dictionary, I bet Obama's picture is there.
What a smile!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:47 AM
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34. Bigtree is planting shade trees....
...under which he might never sit.

That's really beautiful---and very rare.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:23 PM
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35. Some Trees



These are amazing: each
Joining a neighbor, as though speech
Were a still performance.
Arranging by chance

To meet as far this morning
From the world as agreeing
With it, you and I (and others)
Are suddenly what the trees try

To tell us we are:
That their merely being there
Means something; that soon
We may touch, love, explain.

And glad not to have invented
Some comeliness, we are surrounded:
A silence already filled with noises,
A canvas on which emerges

A chorus of smiles, a winter morning.
Place in a puzzling light, and moving,
Our days put on such reticence
These accents seem their own defense.


-- John Ashbery
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:01 PM
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39. Butte, America is my ancestral home!
I am so homesick looking at those photos of the M&M! I just sent a planeload of relatives back to Butte this afternoon. Dad couldn't get a ticket to the dinner, it was sold out. He managed to get one to Clinton's event tho.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:03 PM
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40. He is looking rough lately ..
He must be exhausted!!!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:05 PM
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41. Still at the top of his game...GOBAMA!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:22 PM
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42. Wonderful Post!
Thanks!

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:22 PM
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45. bigtree, you are a class act. Thank you.
:applause:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:33 PM
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49. Wonderful post ( pictures, too). Many thanks, bigtree, for sharing this with us.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 05:33 PM by hisownpetard
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InfiniteNether Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:00 PM
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50. Montana in play? Most definitely!!!!!!!
2004 Bush- 266,063 votes

2004 Kerry- 173,710 votes


Would be a close one, but I think Obama can do it!
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:12 PM
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51. Nice pictures of Obama and the kids.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:14 PM
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52. KR for an excellent post.
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