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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:14 PM
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LaRouche is beating Kucinich in South Dakota!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:21 PM
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1. Uncommitted is right on Dean's heals for 2nd place
The others may not have campaigned in SD for quite a while, but Uncommitted didn't spend a dime in SD.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:41 PM
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3. uncommitted has overtaken Dean now n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:16 PM
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19. He still didn't get enough to get delegates
;)
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:41 PM
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2. It doesn't matter. They're both losers. Is Kucinich going to be Nader's
running mate?

I suppose he's not running for re-election to the House. Will a real Democrat run?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:46 PM
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4. Kucincih is real Democrat, and a great Congressman, and he is running.
Kucincih is real Democrat, and a great Congressman, and he is running for re-election to the House.

We need more Congressman like Kucinich.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:49 PM
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6. Yes! Let Democrats Be Democrats, Again!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 PM
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7. Give the Kootch a break, y'all
I like what Dennis says on many issues. He's already said he backs Kerry.

Putting the word Nader in the same sentence as Kucinich is really being insulting.

If anything, a strong LaRouche backing (i.e. miniscule percentage points) shaves off on the Chimp pimp ho's.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:13 PM
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21. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
Kucinich is a DEMOCRAT! He is bringing greens and progressives back into the democratic party. He is HELPING John Kerry. Are you really that ignorant?
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Lefty Pragmatist Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 PM
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8. Why America is a cool country.
    DIST 27 DEM STATE SENATE
(D) AMIOTTE MARY 0 0 0 22
(D) CHARGING ELK EDD 0 0 0 22
(D) TWO BULLS THERESA "HU 0 0 0 22
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 09:10 PM
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9. John Kerry is kicking ass
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 09:13 PM by JI7
gooooooo kerry
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 01:15 AM
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10. Wouldn't suprise me one bit
I used to live in MN's old 2nd Congressional District, which covered the SW corner of Minnesota, which is right next to South Dakota. Demographically, both places are very, very similar. It was one of the least-densely populated CDs in the country. The largest town in the district only had 9,000 people in it.

Back when I lived there, we had a rather large LaRouche contingent living in the district, and they were a very vocal and hostile minority at our conventions.

It seems the LaRouche nutjobs congregate in remote rural areas-- probably easier to put tinfoil around your house and not have the neighbors complain, I'd guess.
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Beatrix Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:26 AM
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15. What do you mean by hostile?
nt
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 11:10 AM
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16. They were very disruptive
They were bullies, and would disrupt conventions if their platform issues were not accepted into the convention. They harrassed other delegates, and were very hostile and aggressive.

They were a bunch of conspiracy-theory nuts, who were convinced that the Queen of England was an international narco-trafficker who controlled both the US and USSR. One of their great ideas was to drain the Great Lakes to irrigate the desert SW. They also advocated cutting giant icebergs off the polar ice caps and using the water to turn Arizona into a garden.

I can tolerate total whack-jobs (some are my best friends), but not when they're aggressive and threatening violence if they don't get their way.
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PfNJ Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 05:14 PM
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22. I met one in Jersey City a few months back.....
pushing LaRouche's "New Federalist" newspaper.....

I was in my vehicle at a stop light Downtown, and this guy actually BANGED on my window, when I opened it, he gave me a copy of the paper and tried to sell me a pamphlet for 50 bucks.....
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:28 PM
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24. Glad to see they've not changed tactics in 16 years!
My most vivid memory of them is at the 1998 MN Cong Dist 2 convention. They had a candidate running for the DFL endorsement for the US House seat (then occupied by Vin Weber). I remember that they were shoving copies of the New Federalist in everyone's faces, and pushing some LaRouche publication for some ridiculous price.

I actually kept the copy of the New Federalist for a while, because it was so twisted. It was like a glimpse into a very paranoid mind. I remember one article by LaRouche's wife, Helga Zepp, about some great big conspiracy in the music world.

Apparently, a couple of centuries ago, the pitch of the note A was fixed at 440. Before that, it was at 427, or something like that. To most normal people, the difference between these two frequencies is negligible. But ol' Helga wrote two whole pages about how it was a conspiracy to ruin the greatest operatic vocalists of all time, because the A=440 pitch was too high, and was straining their vocal chords, thereby ruining their voices.

Of course the only normal reaction to this would be :wtf:. They're a strange lot.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:39 AM
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26. They've been causing trouble for quite some time
There was some interesting happenings with LaRouchies in Illinois back in 1986:

http://www.prin.edu/users/els/departments/poli_sci/state/state/larouche.htm
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:02 PM
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27. One of my best friends worked on that race!!!
Yeah, that one was a disaster!!! My friend, who was 16 at the time, was working hard for the endorsed Dems. But wouldn't you know it, the WASPy "Fairchild" and "Hart" won the primary, probably because their names were easier to spell, and looked more "familiar" to many people.

He told me numerous stories about these two, and some of the outrageous things they said ("I hate Jews", from Fairchild, for example). The two REAL Dems had to actually run under a separate party banner that fall; and in a state that tends to vote straight ticket (Dem in Chicagoland, GOP downstate) it completely screwed the Democrats.

The LaRouchees may be putting on a "nice" face this year, but I STILL don't trust them. I was around the party in the 80s, and I know what they're like, and I'm not buying the nice act for a minute.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 11:51 AM
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17. Remember how the LaRouchies disrupted the Democratic debate?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:31 PM
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25. Totally forgot about that
but you're right, they were there causing a scene as usual. However, I've noticed lately that they've put on a much "sunnier" face than they used to. Sometimes they're actually cordial and friendly, which is really odd for them....
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:10 AM
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11. Odd
all night the numbers for Uncommitted were bigger than for Dean, but they still show Dean with a higher percentage. :shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 01:01 PM
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18. Not showing that now
DEM PRESIDENTIAL
(D) DEAN HOWARD 4837 6
(D) KERRY JOHN 69454 82
(D) KUCINICH DENNIS 2043 2
(D) LAROUCHE LYNDON 2942 3
(D) UNCOMMITTED DELEGATES 5104 6

http://www.sdsos.gov/results/statwide.shtml

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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:25 AM
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12. One would think all LaRouche Voters
should be committed (right along with LaRouche) He can be President of the Bewildered Republic of Bellview.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:36 AM
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13. and none of those democrats who voted for kerry had to vote for him
people had more than 1 to vote from and most of them voted for kerry.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:46 PM
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20. Not true.
The media told them they HAD TO vote for Kerry.

Or LaRouche. The media just loves LaRouche. Can't you tell by all the coverage they give him?
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Beatrix Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:23 AM
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14. If you ask me
this is evidence of our primary being infiltrated by non-democrats. I wonder how many repubs voted and for who...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:42 PM
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23. Funny, but
not very surprising. LaRouche got about 22% of the vote in Arkansas in 2000. He was the only one on the ballot against Gore.
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