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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:47 AM
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Obama has opened a 23% lead in North Carolina - New Rasmussen Poll
Saturday, April 05, 2008
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In North Carolina, Barack Obama has opened up a twenty-three percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that Obama attracts 56% of the vote while Clinton earns 33%. A month ago, Obama’s lead was just seven percentage points.

While the absolute numbers are different, the trend is similar to results from Pennsylvania where Obama gained ten-points on Clinton during the month of March.

Perhaps the only disturbing news for Obama in the survey is that most Clinton voters (56%) say they are not likely to vote for the Illinois Senator in the general election against John McCain. A month ago, 45% of Clinton voters said they were not likely to vote for Obama against McCain.

There remains an enormous racial divide in the North Carolina data. Obama leads 86% to 9% among African-American voters. Clinton holds a 47% to 38% advantage among white voters in the Tar Heel State. A month ago, Obama led by fifty-three points among African-Americans while Clinton led by twenty points among White voters.

Obama is viewed favorably by 75% of the state’s Likely Primary Voters, up three points from a month ago. Clinton is viewed favorably by 66%, down four since early March.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/north_carolina/north_carolina_democratic_primary
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:51 AM
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1. I can't comprehend someone who's first choice is HRC then voting for John McCain.
Those numbers simply can't be right.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:52 AM
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2. Racism?
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:59 AM
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3. The poll is of "Democratic Primary Voters" is this an open primary?
There's a difference between "Democratic Primary Voters" and "registered Democrats."
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:01 AM
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4. Yes, but also Hillary supporters so strongly identify with her that they have lost perspective.
Incoming!

But you can see it here. If they think John McCain will be better for them and their families - and 56% are at that point, according to the article, which is astounding - they have clearly lost sight of the goal here.

I laugh when Obama supporters are called "cultists," but this growing trend of Hillary supporters to say "Hillary or nobody or McCain" is not healthy - or funny. And it is growing, and of course will be laid at the feet of Obama supporters. Which we also see here; we are an affront for daring to support someone else.

Perhaps it's a reaction to the very precarious position of their candidate, and common sense will dictate that cooler heads prevail when issues like jobs, the war, health care and the like come front and center with our nominee, rather than ministers and sniper fire.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 AM
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5. Anyone who votes for McCain is complicit in the clusterfuck that will follow.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:04 AM by BlueManDude
I despise Hillary Clinton at this point but if she's the nominee she gets my vote in November. Period.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:34 PM
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18. I agree! NT
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:30 AM
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7. Perhaps it's a reaction to the very precarious position of their candidate
I take it to be more of a selfish overreaction on the part of Clinton supporters.

They've all heard the rest of us (and a few in the MSM, too few IMHO) talk about Hillary trying to undercut Obama now that her chance is essentially zero so that she can try again in 2012 against a President McCain.

They would rather put this country through another long 4 years of Republican HELL than to just het behind our nominee so we can get our nation back on track.

If thats the way they truly are thinking, they are proving themselves to be the real sexists by preferring to damage this country just to have a future chance at voting for a woman again in 4 years.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:08 PM
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9. So you think it's mostly women?
Do they not realize that if McCain wins, he will appoint a couple of strict constructionist judges who will overturn roe v. wade and hurt women in other ways?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:42 PM
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11. From what I've observed
since moving here, you may be right.

Many of the people I know here would fall into that category, but they certainly don't recognize that in themselves. They're GOOD people, but in this particular age group anyway, it's too much a part of who they are. For the people I know, anyway, it wouldn't be a conscious decision, but the end result is the same.




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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:50 PM
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12. You can't? hialry endorsed how much experience mccain has..
and the bil said mccain loves his country..if bil says it it must be true.

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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:23 PM
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19. Hilary represents status quo. McCain represents status quo.
Simple, really. Most people naturally fear change. What they don't understand is that change is upon them from every direction. Status quo is the most dangerous place to be in these times.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:11 AM
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6. Good news! Thanks
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:03 PM
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8. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:20 PM
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10. People need to stop worrying about Clinton supporters talking about voting for McCain.
Some will. But the vast majority will take one look at what McCain stands for.

100 years of war

4 more years of Bush style politics.

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And they will vote atleast for someone else. Hell even writing in Ron Paul is better than voting for McCain!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:51 PM
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13. voting for mccain is voting for more war
and all the accompanying death and misery that brings
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:41 PM
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14. Well, Clinton supporters keep defending the IWR
Methinks they aren't that uncomfortable with war, in general.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:45 PM
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15. The fact that Obama has been able to break the 30% white barrier in a state like NC is progress. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:47 PM
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16. Bill Clinton: "N.C. now crucial for Hillary to win the nomination"
Source: Charlotte Observer

Like it did in Texas and Ohio, the Clinton campaign for president has drawn a line in the sand, down the middle of the Tar Heel state.

Bill Clinton said Friday in Charlotte that his wife's presidential bid hinges in many ways on whether the New York senator wins North Carolina's Democratic primary.

Speaking to about 4,000 at a rally at UNC Charlotte, the former president said Hillary Clinton would likely have to win the state's May 6 primary to have any chance at winning the overall popular vote and ultimately overtaking Sen. Barack Obama as the party's nominee.

Read more: http://www.charlotte.com/217/story/567422.html

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:56 PM
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17. Wow, 45% of those Hillary voters appear to feel that McCain represents their
views more than Obama does. DLC = Republican
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:40 PM
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20. I think Obama likely to win NC with WI type suport at the very least now
Maybe even 62-38. WI was 58-41
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:06 PM
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21. k
:kick:
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