Hillary interviews with Philadelphia Gay News; McCain, Obama decline

[TacticalPeek]

Hillary interviews with Philadelphia Gay News; McCain, Obama decline

Submitted by lambert on Thu, 2008-04-03 20:44.

Of course, McCain would decline, and after the whole Donnie McLurkin thing, it’s only natural that Obama would bow out, too. Guess there’s just some kinds of people that Unity doesn’t apply to. Whatever.

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Now, I have to say that I don’t have a great understanding of these issues—though I imagine Hillary’s position on, say, gay marriage is hardly a maximalist one.

But for pity’s sake, at least she talked to the community! How are “unity,” and “change,” and “transformation” anything other than empty words when you won’t treat the whole country the same way and talk to anybody? Especially people who still suffer from great prejudice and discrimination? Where’s the justice in that?

http://www.correntewire.com/hillary_interviews_with_philadelphia_gay_news_mccain_obama_decline

Just sayin'.

[tekisui]

1. C'mon Obama, you need to step up on this.

Equal Rights are not Special Rights.

[jackson_dem]

38. Ironic isn't it from a guy who wrote a book called the audacity of hope...

[xchrom]

2. recommend

[AX10]

3. K & R!

Also, Obama would not pose for a photo with Mayor Gavin Newsom.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

8. Playboy Newsom: Aide quits as Newsom's affair with his wife is revealed....

AIDE QUITS AS NEWSOM'S AFFAIR WITH HIS WIFE IS REVEALED / Campaign ...Feb 1, 2007 ... San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's re-election campaign manager resigned Wednesday after confronting the mayor about an affair Newsom had ...
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/01/MNGM8NSSD91.DTL

[QC]

10. Check out the dates of those two events,

and you will see that this justification, though widely and uncritically circulated in Obamaphile circles, is bullshit.

[Freedom Train]

17. Obama's record could be a whole lot better on this issue,

that much is certain.

[Clintonista2]

4. Oh gee what a surprise.

Not.


K&R!!!

[dsc]

5. I am sure we hear chapter and verse about how this isn't Obama's fault

yet again Obama has willfully decided to ignore gays.

[PBS Poll-435]

16. Don't you realize

Gays are not the prize in Philly.

[rodeodance]

26. there is whole thead form BO fans making excuses for BO staying out of Memphis today.

[Clintonista2]

6. Kick

[Clovis Sangrail]

7. didn't she sit interview with Scaife as well?

Do candidates get points added or subtracted for sitting down a with paper that counts hate mongers like Brent Bozell and Jonah Goldberg among their columnists?

[joshcryer]

12. Are you comparing a gay paper to Scaife?

Or am I just confused?

[Clovis Sangrail]

33. oh yeah... that's exactly what I'm doing

:eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

15. If you want the endorsement, you have

to interview with the Editorial Board.

Doesn't mean you have to like it.

[Clovis Sangrail]

34. so the views of the publication are irrelevant it's really just chasing an endorsement?

If it doesn't indicate their acceptance of the publication, then why does it matter who did or didn't interview with the Philadelphia Gay News ?

[PBS Poll-435]

35. I will break it down...

The paper is the largest paper in that city. People read it every day. It is a common and almost ceremonious ritual to go and sit before the Op/Ed board.

This is special because Scaife basically called Hillary Clinton a murderer, a lesbian, and etc...

She had the courage to go one-on-one with those assholes.

No apologies needed from her. You should be cheering her rather than chastising her.

[Clovis Sangrail]

39. I'm neither 'cheering' nor 'chastising'

I'm simply asking if candidates should get credit or ridicule for pandering to any particular publication.

You're the one that implied that there is not necessarily a relationship between what publications a candidate likes and which publications they choose to interview with.
I happen to agree with you on that... which is why I ask my question.

If a candidate interviewed with one publication for political expedience, why should we think that same candidate didn't interview with some other publication for political expedience?

[PBS Poll-435]

40. Is it going to crush you when

Obama sits in the same chair Hillary did in front of Scaife's Editorial Board?

[Clovis Sangrail]

42. errrrr.... no, why would it?

you're assigning opinions to me that I never expressed rather than addressing the question I posed

[PBS Poll-435]

43. I am trying to figure out your angle.

This is politics and people should do interviews with Papers/Mags that will put them in a favorable light and some that will just give them exposure.

I am glad Hillary bit the bullet and met with Scaife. He is a douche and if he would have gone ballistic on her there would have been witnesses...

Seriously, I hope Hillary meets with as many as will have her.

[Clovis Sangrail]

44. I thought that was obvious

I 'like' neither candidate.
I like their vitriolic supporters even less because they tend to be more dishonest than the candidates.

If Hillary's interview with Scaife wasn't an endorsement of his views/methods, then why should we think her interview with the Philadelphia Gay News was an endorsement of their views/methods?

If we are to believe that who candidates choose to interview does indicate some measure of support/acceptance of the publication, then Hillary has some serious explaining to do regarding her sit down with Scaife.

It can't be both ways.

[TacticalPeek]

9. Morning kick.

:kick:

[QC]

11. Obama can't risk getting those gaycooties--might cost him that fundy support

he has so assiduously cultivated these past few months.

[ronnykmarshall]

18. He probably got a call from his pal Miss Donnie *Butch*

"Now, if you want ME to go instead I'll take one from the team."

[LostinVA]

13. Gosh, what a surprise

*cueing up cries of "DOMA/DADT" from spinmeisters*

[ronnykmarshall]

14. Oh dear.

[LisaM]

19. What do you expect? They wouldn't go to the State of the Black Union either

Hillary did, in the face of a very hostile crowd, I might add. I applaud her for it.

And regarding the fact that (Bill) Clinton couldn't implement gays serving openly in the military as his first act as President, which he wanted to do, people should put the blame where it really lies - with Colin Powell, who essentially refused to implement it.

Hillary is fearless. I love her.

[GarbagemanLB]

20. Fearless? Tell me about it. I'd piss my pants dodging sniper fire with my daughter in a warzone.

[LisaM]

22. Is "sniper fire" the talking point of the day for the O people?

I guess it must be. Can you TRY staying on topic?

[rodeodance]

25. many BO fans are very Rovian--change the topic. They have read Rove's handbook

[LisaM]

27. It's like listening to Johnny One Note...........

It's the second thread I've attempted to respond in today, and the second time that incident was raised.

[rodeodance]

28. the IMMATURE BO fans have been spaming all the threads with this issue.

[rodeodance]

24. go right ahead and piss in your pants. Good show!

Fearless? Tell me about it. I'd piss my pants dodging sniper fire with my daughter in a warzone.
Posted by GarbagemanLB

[DURHAM D]

36. And Senator Sam Nunn was Clinton's biggest opponent in congress.

Senator Nunn is now being pushed a possible VP for Obama. Wouldn't that be just ducky. :sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

21. REC

[sniffa]

23. Edwards stiffed them too. As did HRC at the time.

The Democratic race for president has been heating up for months. And where once eight contenders graced the national stage, only two have made it to Pennsylvania’s primary: Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. In these months, an alliance of LGBT papers sought to speak with the top three contenders — Clinton, Obama and former Sen. John Edwards — to no avail. Now, with the delegate spread hovering around 150, smaller constituencies, including the LGBT community and their superdelegates, are playing a larger role.

PGN invited both Clinton and Obama, as well as presumptive Republican candidate John McCain, to speak with us. Only Clinton granted an interview.

http://www.epgn.com/

So, it's not that she cares, it's that she's desperate for every last vote. Over a month ago, she wouldn't grant an interview; now she gives one. Good for her.

[rodeodance]

29. You know nothing about hillary when you smear her with the "she does not care" meme.

So, it's not that she cares, it's that she's desperate for every last vote. Over a month ago, she wouldn't grant an interview; now she gives one. Good for her.

[LisaM]

30. Well it's good that it matters more, then

Clearly, Obama must be feeling a little arrogant about his chances.

[dsc]

41. she was on the cover of the advocate

when she was still a prohibitive front runner (your candidate has still refused to give any interview to any gay publication save one damage control McClurkin only interview). Of course she didn't sit down with a PA newspaper until closer to the PA primary, duh.

[Iceburg]

31. K&R -- More proof that Hillary is the REAL uniter /nt

[juajen]

32. I love her laugh, and that photo brings it. She is so genuine

when she laughs. She has a great sense of humor.

I have known for a long time that she is the only real supporter of gays, lesbians, transgenders, etc. She is the real deal, and I hope a lot of people realize that Obama is NOT before it's too late.

I believe in Hillary, but the forces that have been brought to bear against her are formidable, and totally Rovian inspired, I believe, directed.

Her strength and courage are only more illuminated by this onslaught.

Hillary supporters will not waver and will support her until. . . . . .

[jackson_dem]

37. he couldn't even say "present'?