I am now having doubts about John Kerry......

[Nimble_Idea]

he is going to accept the nomination in July, what a bozo!!

[NMDemDist2]

1. ROFL eom

[PurityOfEssence]

2. Spoken like a true Clark supporter

Derisive ridicule is a little more appropriate for conservatives, but it certainly is the norm with this crowd.

Real men change their minds; it's a hazard of having one.

[Justice]

7. Hey, Not An Accurate Statement

a true Clark Supporter is a supporter of Kerry, as Clark asked his supporters to support Kerry.

[PurityOfEssence]

13. Point taken

I'm just a tad crabby on the subject these days, since I'm trying to stay out of the Edwards/Clark turf wars. Many Clark supporters are amiable and thoughtful, and I've said so before. The problem is that the entree onto the board of a blustering phalanx of Clark supporters at the very beginning of his campaign set the tone, and a certain more-than-few have continued the dynamic, always using the tone of ridicule with terms like "whiner" that smack of conservative bluster.

There ARE tendencies in the characteristics of the various contenders supporters, and they often reflect a great deal of the attitude of the candidates themselves. Many Dean supporters are reckless and derisive. Most Kucinich supporters are gentle and tolerant. Clark is an anomaly in this, though, because he is anything but a superior snot; he does not dismiss those who disagree as losers, and he comports himself with a great deal of decency. (I do have problems with him on other issues, but that's not the point here, and I've recited them over and over.)

Bad mood. Don't take it personally. I don't take it back to the many long-standing Clark supporters, though, and it's not just me who's commented on this trait.

[Justice]

22. Okay Then

For what it is worth, this very ardent Clark supporter thinks that Edwards will and should be the VP.

I am convinced, as I have always been, that Edwards is our best hope for the future.

Clark is about right now - and can very ably support the adminstration as SOS or NSA.

What I really like about the Kerry/Edwards combination is that Kerry makes me feel so much better about our foreign policy, whereas, Edwards can empathize with people hurting at home due to no jobs/poverty.

[Crunchy Frog]

12. Please don't paint everyone with the same brush.

Do you enjoy it when all Edwards supporters get painted with the same brush? There are alot of Clark supporters on here with a very wide range of viewpoints. One Clark supporter is not representative of the entire group of Clark supporters.

There are a few Edwards supporters here who are very rude and obnoxious, but I would never try to say that they are representative of all Edwards supporters.

I wish you would extend the same courtesy.

Just for the record, I think that Kerry is making the right move here.

[PurityOfEssence]

17. Fair enough; see above

You are correct on all counts, but I would point out that even you are saying only "a few" Edwards supporters are of this ilk.

Sorry about that, but I guess I had a couple too many Anthrax Ripples last night, and I'm a wee wobbly just now...

[Kahuna]

21. Exsqeeze me? Totally uncalled for remark. Especially since..

Clarkies were very gracious in accepting Kerry when Clark dropped out. Please don't try to rewrite history. :eyes:

[Nimble_Idea]

24. Yeah, I support Clark for VP

if your saying I supported Clark for the Number one spot, then you don't know what you speak. I have ALWAYS been for Kerry since day one, even when Gore the Snore was running.

Second, I'm having doubts that he is sober , as I can see he must be on something for doing stupid stuff like this. I still support this man for prez always have, always will.

Shrub must go.

[WilliamPitt]

3. Thank fucking God

Not that you are doubting Kerry, but that Kerry is going to accept the nomination. I live in Boston, and both papers have been howling at the possibility that he won't accept the thing. I haven't paid all that much attention until today, strangely enough, but just being in the city here is enough to pick up a bad vibe.

The convention is going to, completely, stop the city of Boston cold. All the major highways in, out and through are bring closed, particularly I-93, because that passes within rock-throwing distance of the convention site. I-93 is the femoral artery of highways passing through the city; that's why they've been doing the Big Dig since 1904 or so.

The Mayor is telling every business in downtown Boston to basically close up shop that week and give all their employees a week's vacation. This is going to cost the city's economy billions.

If Kerry doesn't accept the nod in Boston, the ONLY story will be the entire city screaming at him for offering only a wave and a speech at the convention that removed Boston from the Eastern seaboard for five days.

The pollution in the Boston Harbor damaged Dukakis badly. The entire city of Boston telling Kerry to eat shit and die won't do good things, either.

My 2 cents.

[blm]

4. Is a Toby Keith concert really going to happen

in Boston then, or was that just blown smoke?

[WilliamPitt]

5. No idea

Haven't heard anything about it here, but then again, I'm not exactly wired into the awesome spectacle that is Toby Keith.

By the way, who the fuck is Toby Keith?

[blm]

8. Dixie Chicks nemesis. Remember Natalie's shirt FUTK

at the awards ceremony?

It was on CNN that Keith was planning a concert in Boston to counter Bruce Springsteen's concert during the GOP convention.

[WilliamPitt]

14. Toby Keith v. Bruce Springsteen?

I'll take the Boss with a 40 point spread.

[blm]

15. heheh...no brainer.

.

[Arugula Latte]

20. I'd like to put a boot

in Toby Keith's ass, as the saying goes.

[Justice]

6. Will, Heard US Representative Today At Chamber

Saying that when the announcement came out regarding the road closings, he (and others) were very surprised - went far beyond anything being discussed.

There is some hope that the plan can be modified. It is of course, completely ridiculous to shut down storrow and memorial drives, and 93 from braintree to woburn.

I can't help but think this is done to make dems in boston look bad, whereas the secret service is not recommending the same measures for NY.

Also, I was looking at the sponsors for the Convention today, as I read that Time Warner is a sponsor of the Republican Convention (inexplicably, I will say - how can a major media outfit be a sponsor). I noticed Gloria Larson was a director of the committee -- how the heck does a republican get named to be a director of the committee for the republican convention?

[WilliamPitt]

16. The Boston Herald has been running Onion-esqe headlines about this

To wit:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! BOSTON CLOSED FOR DEMS!

In reality, when it came out that Kerry might not accept, the headline was:

WE'RE ROAD KILL: KERRY MAY NOT ACCEPT NOM AT CONVENTION

The Herald still uses exclamation points in its headlines. *sigh*

[BeFree]

25. Boston can take a flying leap

Five weeks of no extra money for Kerry just so Boston doesn't get upset and pee it's collective pants. I hope to hell Boston appreciates the sacrifice Kerry is making for the cry-babies of Boston. Ya'll can't win a world series when ya have it in the bag and now you're threatening to help get * elected. Geeezz

I guess it's just a new-age yankee ingenuity, eh?

[bushwakker]

26. This is a miserable city

full of whining, wise-guy, a-holes.

[Rationality]

29. And let's not forget, Boston has the Red Sox

:grr:

[Kira]

9. Absolutely

It was the most ridiculous idea I ever heard. I couldn't believe I heard Dean the other day on CNN saying that he shouldn't accept it then. He would have looked so foolish up there accepting but not accepting.

[Cheswick2.0]

18. I sincerely dpubt that it was Deans idea in the first place

But he has been backing Kerry up in everything simply because he thinks bush is poison.

[Kira]

23. I doubt it too

but I was suprised to see him promoting it. He was my guy and it was the first time I have disagreed with something he was supporting.

[Nimble_Idea]

19. I don't have the perspective of Boston people....

so there may be a different view of it there, but It doesn't play well for Kerry to be

For the Nomination, Then Against it, and then For it again...
Flip Flop Flip

it Just plays into the Repugs hands, if he wasn't planning on delaying the acceptance, he shouldn't have said squat.

This just looks bad either way.

I don't know who was responsible for this, but I would fire them.

[Rationality]

28. Boston is expendible

We own Mass. regardless of what happens over there, and given how close this race can be, Kerry should've postponed.

[flpoljunkie]

10. AP link to Kerry's decision...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58256-2004May26.html

By RON FOURNIER
The Associated Press
Wednesday, May 26, 2004; 5:23 PM





WASHINGTON - Bowing to pressure, John Kerry decided Wednesday to accept the nomination at the Democratic presidential convention in July, scuttling a plan to delay the formality so he could narrow President Bush's public money advantage.

"Boston is the place where America's freedom began, and it's where I want the journey to the Democratic nomination to be completed," Kerry said in a statement released by his campaign. "On Thursday, July 29, with great pride, I will accept my party's nomination for president in the city of Boston. From there we will begin our journey to a new America."

<>The statement ended four days of controversy over an idea that was supposed to remain a secret for several more weeks.

<>"We believe it is right to start the general election on the same day as our opponents, and we will continue to explore every way possible to level the playing field against the Republicans' five week advantage," Kerry said.

One of those ways is having Kerry raise money for the Democratic National Committee, which could air ads to bolster Kerry's effort. However, the Kerry campaign would have little or no control over those commercials.

______________________________

The DNC is sending out emails touting the matching of contributions dollar for dollar. by a group of DNC contributors. For those who have already given the maximum to John Kerry, this is a vehicle to help him remain competitive if he cannot get the FEC to level the playing field of the Republicans' five week advantage--which may be a tough sell with the FEC equally divided between Republicans and Democrats.

[flaminbats]

11. there is nothing wrong with having doubts...

Proverbs 12.1 Anyone who loves knowledge wants to be told when he is wrong. It is stupid to hate being corrected.

Proverbs 13.13 If you refuse good advice you are asking for trouble; follow it and you are safe.

[Rationality]

27. I agree. This is foolish

Kerry already had the disadvantage of having to fight eight other contenders before he could take Bush head on, and now he's going to have this five-week setback as well when he could've dodged it? :shrug:

[flaminbats]

31. Kerry blew away the eight other contenders...if that's what they were

Winning the nomination as quickly as he did against eight opponents, three of whom were considered to be just as likely to be nominated as Kerry, makes him the stronger candidate next to Bush. This would have been a better issue to consider just before or even during the convention. This way the suspense would have been building right up to the moment Kerry excepted the nomination at the convention.

[oasis]

30. Why can't the BIG story of the convention be the veepstakes?