Hillary is losing PA rapidly, She will Lose. The End is NEAR!!!!!!!

[meow mix]

im so glad this race is almost over. whew

[JVS]

1. May God grant it!

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[Maddy McCall]

14. .

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[Hardrada]

24. Surgare, Domine!

Arise, O Lord, and scatter Thine enemies!!

[globalvillage]

2. I made calls in Pittsburgh today

Hillary will not win here.

GObama!

[ClassWarrior]

11. You go!! Don't get complacent, folks...

Here's to hard work for hope in Penn...

NGU.

[anigbrowl]

3. Don't count your chickens

1 or 2 polls could be deceptive, and there are almost 3 weeks to go yet. Realistically, I'm expecting a close result like in TX.

But if he does get lucky (very lucky) and win PA, then I'd say the argument is pretty much settled.

[ORDem]

5. If Hillary wins with less than a 20 point lead, it's over (though I'd say it was over since WI). n/t

[JorgeTheGood]

17. it won't be over until Obama

shows he can win either OH or FL or both ... until then, the super delegates will not go with him and allow McCain to waltz into the White House with little to no effort.

It's about taking the White House and the General Election is not a caucus ... Obama has to prove himself.

[FARAFIELD]

19. and then you woke up

Superdelegates? are you kidding me, Since supertuesday she has lost 5 and he has gained 26 or 27

[JorgeTheGood]

22. the super delegates are there to stop a candidate

that is not viable and Obama is looking more and more that way every day. The SD's have all the power and they will use it if necessary to stop Obama.

[Zhade]

35. Keep wishing.

We'll be here to rub it in when she finally accepts her loss!

[Blondiegrrl]

39. Exactly. The candidate who's winning is definitely the less viable one.

:eyes:

[dchill]

42. Snap out of it! Do you have a TV?

Do you ignore DemConWatch? AP? MSNBC First Read? The superdelegates are actually looking more and more TOWARD Obama every day. It's NOT Opposite Day, Spongebob!

[anigbrowl]

64. So how come so many more are endorsing him?

You think they're all going to change their mind at the last minute? Not very likely. Sure, it's possible that something awful could happen Obama's campaign, but equally Hillary might melt down on national TV and start doing the chicken dance. Neither possibility seems especially probable.

[Zachstar]

65. Can you do math?

If they wanted to stop Obama if he is not viable then why the hell is he GAINING superdelegates?!

Keep dreaming!

[dchill]

40. Or until Hillary runs out of money...

and credibility. Oh, right, that already happened - never mind.

[SoCalDem]

66. he does not "need" either state..or even PA

If they choose to come along for the ride, then great..:P:

[DemVet]

53. Yeah, spin it anyway you want....Barry loses PA

[dchill]

57. Spin it anyway YOU want...

Hillary loses the nomination.

[Hepburn]

4. From your kitty lips to gawd's ear!

:applause:

[mrJJ]

6. Garner delegates

Diffcult to say she will loose PA. Odds don't point that way. Keep Clinton's win within single digits and keep the delegate count adding up.

[Blondiegrrl]

38. That's best most likely scenario, IMO.

Regardless, it's bad news for Clinton and good news for Obama.

[Liberal Veteran]

7. I would hope that if she does lose, even by a hare's breath, she will see...

...how futile this really is.

[MindMatter]

15. She is irrelvant

If Obama keeps this to single digits -- when it started with a 25-point spread, Superdelegates will be coming out daily. TX was supposed to be tailor made for Clinton with the strong Latino vote. Of all the remaining contests, PA was the one everybody has identified as being a big advantage for Clinton, with a lot of lower demographic whites.

Remember, a large number of the uncommitted supers are seasoned politicians who have been through campaigns themselves. They will understand the picture. A lot of them have deferred to Bill, allowing Hillary one last chance to get back in the game with a big win in PA. If she doesn't score big, a lot of them will say "that's enough".

[Zachstar]

67. I think this is a big point.

Somehow they have decided to give her a shot in Penn (Not all of them tho as many have flocked to Obama) Yet I just can't see them keeping it up if Obama wins or even loses slightly.

[MindMatter]

69. It is a spectrum.

If Obama wins, the whole Clinton insurgence implodes, and quickly -- within 48 hours.

I don't expect Obama will win PA. I expect he'll lose by about 8%. At anything less than a real whuppin' by Hillary (say, great than 20%), a substantial number of Supers will come out for Obama, enough to make it clear to the Clintons that they are not going to pull this out.

[woolldog]

9. It's nice isn't it?

:toast:

[Bigleaf]

10. Yep, I can see Hillary cuing up "My Way" on her MP3 player. Oh, what might have been.

Hillary, do everyone a favor please. Turn the lights out when you leave.

[IDemo]

59. Or 'someone left my campaign out in the rain'

[jazzjunkysue]

60. "What I Did For Love."

[FlyingSquirrel]

12. Meow!

nt

[MindMatter]

13. The Clinton camp is all over Indiana

Bill Clinton is practically living in Indiana.

We can all hear it now. PA doesn't matter. Indiana is where they are really making their stand.

[dailykoff]

16. Can't come soon enough.

This shit is getting dangerous, now she's got stalkers going after him. Wish the uncommitted supers weren't such frickin' cowards.

[PBS Poll-435]

34. Do you have any proof of that?

Prolly...no

[dailykoff]

43. Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4575420

Two threads about it right here on GDP, and no I'm not claiming she hired him, although I wouldn't rule it out.

[PBS Poll-435]

49. What?

Quoted!

Before:

This shit is getting dangerous, now she's got stalkers going after him.

After:

...and no I'm not claiming she hired him, although I wouldn't rule it out.


Just ridiculous.

[Zhade]

45. "the uncommitted supers" - Man, I read that as SNIPERS.

Seriously!

:rofl:

[PBS Poll-435]

50. OOCD

or Obama Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder has been linked to the symptoms that you describe.

[Life Long Dem]

18. It won't be over till the final goal post is set at the convention.

And I hope I'm being sarcastic. :shrug:

[anonymous171]

20. Remember the Kentucky polls that were being posted here?

It's so not going to be over.

[totodeinhere]

23. I doubt if she will withdraw if she loses PA,

but a PA loss would make it quite clear to the super delegates that for all practical purposes it's over, and the undecideds would probably go over to Obama's side en masse.

Then after that, anything that Clinton does will be irrelevant.

[Strelnikov_]

31. three words . .

write in campaign

[dchill]

58. She will figure out a way to fight on PAST the convention...

because she never quits, she never gets up. (Cue theme from "Rocky")

And I hope I'm being sarcastic,too.
:shrug:

[tigereye]

21. there are many people here in PA who love HIllary and will gladly vote for her

just a thought.

[GoneOffShore]

30. And there are lots in Philadelphia who don't like her even a little.

And in the surrounding counties.

[Zhade]

47. Well, there are lots of people who love proven pathological liars, I guess.

NT!

[mudesi]

25. You wish

Even if she loses PA, I'm convinced she will continue her Tonya Harding campaign. She was supposed to drop out if she lost Texas, remember?

[KaptBunnyPants]

26. The PPP pole is an outlier, don't get carried away.

Obama still has a lot of ground to make up in PA, and he probably won't. Hillary was up by 20+ just a few weeks ago.

[Zhade]

48. And now, a mere 5%.

Good news, I say!

[shellgame26]

27. Hillary keeps saying

that she's won "the big states", as if Ny and California aren't going to vote for Obama in the GE...disingenuous!

[meow mix]

29. shes weak in swing states, and she says this is a good thing. i know lol

and her supporters parrot her words. which is wierd.

[JorgeTheGood]

32. You're gonna be surprised by McCain in California ...

he's gonna be strong in all the military areas ...

Air Force bases ... Beale, March, Vandenberg, Travis, Edwards
Marine bases ...Pendleton, Miramar, 29 palms, et al
Navy bases ... the many naval instalations in the San Diego area (probably the 2nd largest in the country -- make that in the world) along with China Lake and some smaller facilities like El Centro.

He will take the staunch-red areas ... Orange County, all of the San Diego area (partially mention) and the San Diego north suburbs up to Escondido and possibly into the Temecula area and on to the Riverside area (3rd fasting growing county in the country behind Maricopa and Clark)...

He will easily take the valley areas ... Central, Imperial and San Joaquin which represents the agricultural areas reaching 500 miles in length and 100 miles wide.

In a nutshell, he will take every inch of CA with the exception of Los Angeles county, The Bay area (San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose) and most of the northern coast up to the Oregon border with a few spotty counties inland like sonoma (Santa Rosa, Petaluma, Rohnert Park ... )

Another area where he will be really strong with the retirees ... Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Indian Wells, La Quinta areas just west of Riverside and Beaumont.

And he will be big with the hispanics ... simply because Obama will not.

Taking CA for granted in '08 is beyond foolish -- more than likely McCain will win CA comfortably.

[Zhade]

51. Do you live here? Because I do, and your analysis is nuts.

People in CA are trending toward rejecting anything with the repub label.

I hope, for our sake, that you're wrong. (Still, not relaxing is a good way to go.)

[JorgeTheGood]

55. Yup -- south bay

feel free to debate each area I mentioned (explicitly) -- otherwise your claim to being a californian is probably bogus...

CA in a nutshell, is trending more and more red every day. Obviously you haven't been to Orange county lately or San Diego or Sacramento ... where you look around and begin to think you're in South Carolina .. big pickups, nascar love, knuckle-draggers, flat-earthers ...

show me the debate ...

[kid a]

28. Lets work...get to the phones..donate...etc.!

[futureliveshere]

33. Expectation management people.. Remember NH.

[Blondiegrrl]

36. Seriously ... even if she loses PA ... who thinks she will drop out?

I don't.

*sigh*

[dchill]

41. I would be pleasantly surprised.

:hi:

[Blondiegrrl]

44. If she did, I'd gain some respect for her.

*waves back*

[dchill]

46. Yeah, yeah... me, too...

maybe. After a while.

[L. Coyote]

37. Meanwhile, Dem voter registration is climbing in Oregon. Are they Dems??

[eridani]

52. I think she gets PA by a few percent n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

54. No real reasons WHY Obama should win?

:sarcasm:

I want to be a fly on the wall when some Obama supporters grow up and see that the big bad world is not catering to their little whims and tantrums any more. What a rude awakening they will get. Ahh. Too bad so sad.

[Bonobo]

56. Have to agree with you on this one.

[Steely_Dan]

61. YES! So long to the....

evil bitch! She is pure evil!!! She should be kicked out of the country immediately! What a horrible human being!


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Zachstar]

62. She is losing rapidly but now she is not done yet.

3 weeks can see Obama winning the state. However, Clinton knows this and knows that if she loses the state she has zero chance at ever convincing the supers to sway in her favor.

So everyone I hope you are ready for another 3AM type ad or some scandal to surface on Obama just before it is time.

So let us work like Clinton leads by 20 and we want to turn it into a win! Because it may well be that way!

[debbierlus]

63. It would be for the best. Let's move on. I voted for Hillary in MA, I now want Obama

Gobama

That it the first time I ever typed that...

[meow mix]

68. So much good news for Obama today!!

goodnight hillsie