Obama says he doesnt take money from oil companies. We say that's a little too slick (Factcheck.org)

[cuadrangular]

Factcheck.org calls Obama's claim that he has not received money from oil companies "a little too slick" and "misleading".


Why? Because campaign law makes it illegal to receive money from oil companies as corporations anyway. Neither Obama nor Clinton, not even McCain, have received money from oil companies in the form of corporation donations.

Read:

In a new ad, Obama says, "I don’t take money from oil companies."

Technically, that's true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn’t distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading:

* Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

* Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

So here's the catch. Individuals who are big oil executive, employees or their wives, have donated Obama $213,000, which is less than Clinton has received ($306,000), but Clinton never attempted to be misleading about it.

I give Obama 213,000 pinoccios for this one.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html

[anonymous171]

1. fail

[Hawkeye-X]

2. !

[TTUBatfan2008]

3. Private donors...

are NOT lobbyists. I'm going into the oil industry when I graduate. I support Obama. I've given him what little I can as a college student. I suppose this means I'm a corrupt fuck that wants to buy a seat at the table for the oil industry right? Bullshit.

[cuadrangular]

5. Nobody says they are lobbyists

Who made the claim that they are lobbyists? The criticism is that they are oil executives or people tied to oil companies.

[TTUBatfan2008]

8. Many of them are frickin' regular employees...

accountants, etc. It's very misleading to pretend that it's just executives. Every company has people donating their private income to the campaigns. And yes, that's exactly what Hillary's campaign was implying with her memo and she did try to play it off like she's NOT taking money from them by bragging about her "plans" to "fight" the oil industry. What a crock of shit and a hypocrite.

[walldude]

4. Well thank god Hillary's in the race then

because she would never let herself be beholden to anyone or anything... :rofl: :rofl:


McCain is a puppet with a neo-con corporate fist up his ass, either candidate would be better than him...

[bilgewaterbill]

6. That depends on the meaning of the word "companies."

[bhikkhu]

23. Individuals are not companies, or industries.

Its very simple, but the OP here keeps reappearing with the same RW slant.

[laugle]

7. What's the big

surprise, he's turned into a very "SLICK" politician.....there are non so blind as those who will not see................

You can expect to see this pattern repeated many times!

[Cha]

22. Oh, Obama's "slick" because he's beating

the rovian candidate by takin' to the people?

[Forkboy]

27. Supporting Tellurian and now a tombstoned troll....at least you're consistent.

[laugle]

34. Have a little

respect for another member. Stop all this BS name calling.....shame on you!

[Forkboy]

35. Shame on you for defending the stuff you defended.

You're the one who bought into Tellurian's OP...by WorldNetDaily, based on a "report" from Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy In Media, a far right group funded by the likes of Scaife and Union Carbide, and someone who thinks Fox News is moderate.

You're the one agreeing in this thread with someone who got tombstoned.

And Tellurian deserves zero respect.

:shrug:

[C_U_L8R]

9. What??? So he's only supposed to...

take donations from people without jobs ???
He said he's not taking money from the PACS or the Lobbyists -
they're the ones looking to buy influence with their oil dollars.
Not regular working people, for crying out loud.
If Mike who works at the Mobil station wants to donate to Obama ,
that's just fine with me.

[TTUBatfan2008]

13. Exactly...

You can't fault anyone for taking private contributions from normal Americans, which is where a vast majority of that money is coming from. In fact, a shitload of the oil companies' employees have nothing to do with oil and gas whatsoever. Marketing, accounting, finance, and on and on...those departments don't deal with it directly. But hell, my degree is Petroleum Land Management. I view it as a "gotta do what ya gotta do" sort of thing and it was a situation where it was the only degree that I was interested in out of all the Business Administration ones, but my politics are pretty moderate compared to most that work directly with exploration and production.

[cliffordu]

10. weaksauce......

Just a little disingenuous, re-read what you posted. it has nothing to do with the oil companies.


Oh, yeah, I gotta take a duMP....

:hurts:

[TTUBatfan2008]

11. Total amount of money from employees in the energy industry...

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/sectors.asp?sec=E

[MidwestTransplant]

15. I'll bet that 50% of Alan Keyes' money came from big oil.

[Spiffarino]

17. $250? Enough to buy a new bell for his campaign tricycle

And some nice red, white and blue streamers for the handlebars.

[Forkboy]

12. Welcome back!

[housewolf]

14. Wow, that was a short life

n/t

[Spiffarino]

16. I work at a hospital

So that means Obama just got money tonight from the Healthcare Industry?!?

:thumbsdown:x( FAIL!

[doublethink]

18. cuadrangular ...... oh ....... nevermind .....

[Spiffarino]

26. Is somebody blowing Taps?

Oh no, it's just this OP that blows.

[ekwhite]

49. I believe it is against the rules to gloat over tombstoning. N/T

[thevoiceofreason]

19. You are shown as tombstoned already?

Dawn of the dead?

[Forkboy]

20. CyberPieHole...same thing as a zombie though.

:)

[Thickasabrick]

21. Does anyone else find this just pathetically sad? This is probably the lamest

attempt I have witnessed to date....so I guess you get points for that.

[rodeodance]

29. "Clinton never attempted to be misleading about it."--per Factcheck.

[DerekJ]

38. pffffttt....

Factcheck this:
She said he takes money from oil companies, not from workers in the oil companies. That's misleading.

[rodeodance]

39. I think your post is misleading

pffffttt....
Posted by DerekJ


Factcheck this:
She said he takes money from oil companies, not from workers in the oil companies. That's misleading.

[DerekJ]

41. ~~

~gives rodeodance a blood pressure pill, and an anti-depressent pill ~~

[DemGa]

24. I don't get it -- BO says he takes no money from oil companies

but he cannot legally do so anyway. But he IS taking large sums from oil company execs?

Seems Obama is pulling another end-run around the truth.

[TTUBatfan2008]

25. Large sums?

As in $2300? That's the max they can give for the primary and $2300 more for the general election.

[rodeodance]

44. Slick BO

[TLM]

28. Huh... so if I work construction....

And I as an individual donate to obama, does that mean that the construction industry has somehow corrupted him or that he is no beholden to the construction industry as a whole?

Thats just dumb.

[rodeodance]

30. "I give Obama 213,000 pinoccios for this one."--I agree with this message

[Forkboy]

31. Of course you do, it came from a troll.

Welcome back! :hi:

[pointsoflight]

32. Are people this dense? He doesn't take money from oil LOBBYISTS.

You know, the people who are trying to directly influence policy? There is a huge difference between donations from employees of a company--who could even be secretaries and janitors--and donations from lobbyists who try to influence politicians as the main purpose of their job.

[jackson_dem]

33. It isn't the janitors who bundle $2,300 checks for him...

[DerekJ]

37. Riggghhht

Show me the data that supports your claims. You know damn well he doesn't, and you know Hillary is a crook. What you are trying to prove Obama is "just as bad" as Hillary.
What a magnificent way to tell us why you support your candidate.

[sandnsea]

36. Companies can form PAC's

Obama doesn't take money from PAC's or lobbyists. In no way does he take money from oil companies, and most of the employee donations were $250 or less. Fact Check has always been a lousy fact checker.

[McCamy Taylor]

40. So you mean Obama's boast that he does take money from companies is just a gimic?

[anonymous171]

42. He doesn't take money from them. Employees of those companies can donate.

He also doesn't take PAC money. Clinton does.

[DerekJ]

43. Hold on!!

Do you mean that you actually believed him before?! And if you did, you were still supporting Hillary knowing she is in the pockets of half the countries PACs and lobbyists.

[OzarkDem]

45. kick

What was Obama thinking?

[City Lights]

46. So many corpses, so little time.

:rofl:

[not_too_L8]

47. 35 years experience, sniper fire, opening the borders of Kosovo, etc...

[Scriptor Ignotus]

48. so how many pinoccios do you get?

for this distortion:

factcheck: * Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

you: Individuals who are big oil executive, employees or their wives, have donated Obama $213,000


Factcheck doesn't say the individuals are big oil execs. You completely made that up to make Obama look worse.



For shame sir/madam. For shame.