Attack Dog Carville Is Trying to Intimidate Superdelegates Afraid of Clinton Revenge

[DrFunkenstein]

Carville's job is two-fold.

1) Spin Richardson's endorsement into something anti-Clinton, instead of pro-Obama.

2) Cower any superdelegates thinking of peeking their head out in favor of Obama.

Very little enthusiasm for Clinton has been demonstrated by superdelegates. Only fear of political retribution along the lines of what we witnessed with the Bush administration.

Quid pro quo has a flip side with the Clintons: They reward those that reward them (cronyism), and they politically murder and disfigure anyone who opposes them (thuggery). Neither of which has to do with the decency and merit of the person involved.

I saw this when Carville came for blood with the Judas comment, but his new column is an unmistakeable twist of the knife just to make sure that superdelegates got the message.

Here's a little game. I'm going to give two Carville quotes and change a name:

"I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington. I was a little-known political consultant until (George W. Bush) made me. When he came upon hard times, I felt it my duty -- whatever my personal misgivings -- to stick by him. At the very least, I would have stayed silent."

"If Richardson was going to turn on (Bush) the way he did, I see no problem in saying what I said."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/28/AR2008032802826_2.html

[Swamp Rat]

1. CANNIBAL!!

[DrFunkenstein]

4. Is That Bat Boy?

[0007]

8. Let Carville do the double shuffle to Buffalo

http://www.gamblingincorporated.com/image.php?productid=16133

[VolcanoJen]

5. Christ

Did he really say that????

[Swamp Rat]

6. Yep.

[tabasco]

13. I LMAO at that one.

The laughing dude is funny as hell.

[Swamp Rat]

15. Thanks!

:D

[backscatter712]

14. I'd say he's like Grima Wormtongue

[Swamp Rat]

16. Is that Mary Matlin sitting next to him?

:D

[backscatter712]

22. Theoden's one of the good guys,

so I couldn't possibly insult him by putting the face of Matalin on him.

I was thinking of putting Hillary's face on Theoden's...

[roguevalley]

43. hell will freeze over before the JUNIOR SENATOR from

NY put me into the position of voting for her or else. Fuck that. Fuck them. If this is what she is doing, its undemocratic and bullshit. This is repug behavior. I would go down in flames before I let her shove me around. I cannot believe she is so stupid as to think that intimidating
people is going to help her. She is going to be a much weaker person after this when she loses and SHE will be the vulnerable one. God.

[tabasco]

2. Good! He is the perfect face of the Clinton campaign!

Let his ugly face expose the truth for all to see.

Don't get in the way, Obama! The Clinton campaign is self-destructing.

[samdogmom]

3. Here's what I don't get....if she doesn't win the nomination...how can she have revenge?

Why are some afraid of the Clintons when it is obvious that their reign/control of the Democratic party is pretty much over.

[malletgirl02]

7. I was thinking the same thing

Why should people be afraid? The Democratic party is more than just the Clintons.

[John Q. Citizen]

18. Being called a traitor on TV isn't most people's idea of a good thing. And that's what happens if

you choose Obama.

[malletgirl02]

20. When Carville

When Carville called Richardson "Judas" I was pissed off, it was wrong of him to say that. There is a difference between being angry because, someone insulted you and being afraid. I was just saying,the superdelgates, or any other member of the party should not fear the Clinton's, the Democratic party is much larger than just them. I apologize for not being clear.

[John Q. Citizen]

37. i'm just saying the attempt to intimidate is obvious. Fear is the object of Carvelle's statements.

I'm not afraid of being called out on TV. But if I were a super D, I might be.

And I would be pissed about that.

The Clinton campaign is all about chaos, confusion, and fear. It's their last hope.

[malletgirl02]

40. Reply

I thought about what you said, you are right, superdelegates are justified in their fear, of being called out on TV. I just don't like the fact that it seems people keep forgetting that the Democratic party is more than just the Clintons.

[John Q. Citizen]

42. It's less and less the Clinton's with each passing day. Spring is in the air. Even if it

snowed here today.

[VolcanoJen]

10. Exactly.

Death throes and tantrums... the only way to describe Carville and his declining relevance.

[DrFunkenstein]

11. Glenn Close Syndrome

After Texas, they were waiting for her to jump out of the bathtub (metaphorically).

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

29. I'm thinking more like Stockholm Syndrome. nt

[VolcanoJen]

9. Senator Casey didn't look too intimidated.

[anamandujano]

12. Bill Bradley threatened the supers who vote against Obama a long time ago.

You saw no problem with that though.

[DrFunkenstein]

17. No, He Said That They Should Consider Voter Anger Before Reversing Their Will

Not a public thrashing by the Obama administration.

[anamandujano]

26. He threatened a well organized, well funded challenge to their seats

if they didn't "do the right thing."

Please don't make me cut and paste the Lehrer interview again.

Once again, if neither candidate reaches 2025, their is no voter will to reverse. Obama has been pushing that crap for ages. He has been arm twisting the supers for months. Unfortunately it falls disproportionately on black supers who have been doing a great job for their constituencies. Instead of working to elect more blacks to congress, he threatens to REPLACE THEM for going against his will. Nice.

[karynnj]

24. Bill Bradley was my Senator

He was and is a gracious, soft spoken guy. He also is out of office and has no power, other than the power of his words and good reputation. What did he threaten the delegates with? What power does he personally have to use against them? Bill Bradley is not a thug.

[anamandujano]

27. Yeah, he's a thug. If you had seen his eyes during the interview,

you would have jumped three yards back from the TV, like I did.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/jan-june08/demdiscuss_03-05.html

[karynnj]

30. Actually, my husband and I saw him in person a couple years ago

at a local bookstore, when his last book came out. When he entered the Senate he lived one town over - so I know a couple people who really knew him well - it sounds like you are seeing things that are not there. It kind of reminds me of :

"The children asked him if to kill was not a sin
Not when he looked so fierce, his mummy butted in
If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him
All the children sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (9x) (fade out)"

Now, the Bill I've seen recently with looks that could kill is NOT Bradley - who doesn't seem to have a pattern of putting his fingers in people's faces.

[DrFunkenstein]

19. SF Chronicle Headline 2/23/07: Flirting with Obama Risks Clinton's Wrath

Flirting with Obama risks Clinton's wrath
The message to donors: Don't play the field

As she watched a stream of A-list Hollywood actors and movie moguls crowd into the elegant ballroom of the Beverly Hilton Hotel to mingle with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama this week, powerhouse blogger and author Arianna Huffington noted that many in the room were uneasy about being there.

"The Clintons have made it very clear that, in the political world, no dalliances are allowed. There is zero tolerance for that,'' Huffington laughed. "It's sheer loyalty versus sheer fear.''

And it's reinforced, she said by the "constant e-mails being sent out about the senator's poll numbers, along with the implication that 'if you give any money to anybody else, you're on the outs.' And that when she is the nominee, and when she's the president, she will remember."

A veteran California Democratic campaign strategist -- speaking only on condition of anonymity because of clients he represents -- agreed.

The message from the Clinton campaign, particularly its chairman, Terry McAuliffe, has been blunt, the strategist said, "that you're with us or against us. This isn't one of those races that you can max out (in contributions) to all the candidates. The message from Team Hillary is: We're ahead, we're going to be the nominee -- and we will remember who our friends are.''

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/23/MNGCAO9NS71.DTL

[pscot]

21. The easiest way to deal with intimidation

is to make sure she doesn't have the power to deliver on her threats.

[Hutzpa]

39. These e-mails need to be published

by anonymous, once she is exposed, then she will back off.

[Yael]

23. This shouldn't even be up for discussion

it is a complete given with the Clinton Camp.

One needed look no further than the Solis-Doyle incident where she didn't tell Hillary that they were flat broke and Hillary didn't tell her that she loaned her campaign $5mm. The Clintons reward blind loyalty without regard for capability or performance.

"Heck of a job Hilly" and all that.

[anamandujano]

28. But it's okay when Bomba does it.

:puke:

[Yael]

31. Example?

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

33. What's with the Herman Munster pic? I don't get it.

[1776Forever]

25. Pushy HRC paid pundits on TV

Has anyone else noticed how overbearing some of HRCs supporters are on the TV programs?

There are some really pushy HRC paid pundits on TV, let alone Carville. Has anyone else noticed? One was on with Andrea Mitchell the other day and she couldn't get a word in edge ways. Sorry I don't remember his name. Also that other guy that is on CNN all the time with the glasses, and even Terry McCulliffe. What is with these people. You know how sometimes you watch a TV show and another person will be taking over for the regular person and the director will have them do and say things that seem just like that person? Who is the "director" of these pushy people. Is it Mark Penn making these suggestions? I don't remember Bill's Presidential campaign being like this. Any thoughts?

[rateyes]

32. Hey, Carville, how fucking loyal were you when you tipped

off Bush via your shitfa....wife, about Kerry's strategy?

What keeps you kissing Bill Clinton's ass? Does it taste like cajun chicken?

[yardwork]

34. Carville is a louse.

Carville wrote to the judge asking for clemency for Scooter Libby.

[mrJJ]

35. The Hillary Deathwatch

The Hillary Deathwatch

Deathwatch: Down and on the way out.

Hillary Clinton is as good as dead. This became the consensus over the past week, when the media awoke en masse to the dual reality that 1) Clinton can't close the pledged-delegate gap and 2) Obama has her beat in the popular vote. But the Clinton campaign shows no signs of slowing--she said herself she's prepared to compete for at least three more months. So the question now is not just "How dead is she?" but "When will she realize it?"

In the tradition of Slate's Saddameter (gauging the likelihood of invading Iraq), the Clintometer (measuring the chances of a Lewinsky-related ousting), and the Gonzo-meter (charting the attorney general's demise), we bring you the Hillary Deathwatch, a daily update on Hillary Clinton's dwindling chances of winning the Democratic nomination.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187558/

[splat]

36. Another Obama-inspired Love Fest -- no wonder you're talking only among yourselves

Suppose the prize went to the campaign that brought the most innovative and likely-to-succeed solutions to the problems America faces.

If it wanted you to hope and participate, wouldn't it ask for your ideas?

Wouldn't the netroots offer them?

Or is this all it's about -- sneering and smug congratulations on your cleverness?

This is your future. What do you want it to be like, or doesn't that start till the candidate leads you there?

[grantcart]

38. Carville's comments are aimed at Clinton's New York Super Delegates

who joined when every one thought this was going to be a 3 hour tour.

she has 41 and there are signs that they are wavering - if they start to go her campaign is over.

[Imagevision]

41. Carville's crap is getting old like Bill Clinton's - after Obama is elected they'll fade...