Wow, the more you think about it the weirder the Bosnia story is!!!

[KansasVoter]

She really thought the Secret Service would allow the First Lady to land under sniper fire?

She really would allow her Daughter to run across a runway under sniper fire, knowing she could be shot?

She didn't know that the First Lady running and ducking under sniper fire would be front page news and video?

I now think she was flat out insane and actually believed it herself. Scary. She already told the story twice and did not get caught so she assumed that she could continue to use it. Until CBS found the old footage and used it against her.

Her memory scares me. What else does she think she has done?

[Araxen]

1. She needs to seek help.

[Occam Bandage]

2. It's perfectly believable. First Ladies regularly walk around in the middle of firefights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RVXc

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. I don't get tired of that creative use of the footage

I know someobody had lots of fun and the 9 mm was a nice touch

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. That is hilarious!

:bounce:

[RoadRage]

30. Wow.. it's not as scary that she told the lie.. it's how she looked when

she said it. It was totally believable.. completely flawless. She could pass a lie detector test with no problems... because she's become so skilled at lying that it's second nature to her.

THAT to me is a bigger problem then the lie itself. Compulsive liars don't even think before they speak... they just say what is most convienient for them at the time.

That is a huge difference between her & Obama... he doesn't seem to lie, and when he stretches the truth, he's certainly not comfortable with it. If you look at his "racism" speech - you can see that he goes out of his way to be overtly honest, even if it may not benefit him at the time. It's his nature.

[City Lights]

4. Have you seen this?

Well, It Did Happen to Somebody

By Mary Ann Akers And Paul Kane
Thursday, March 27, 2008; Page A15

For those of you who doubt that story involving a Balkan airport, the one Hillary Rodham Clinton tells about darting across the tarmac to dodge sniper fire, take note: It really did happen.

Just not to Clinton.

In October 1995, six months before then-first lady Clinton led a delegation to Tuzla, Sen. Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) and six other senators went on a fact-finding mission through war-torn Sarajevo, just before the Dayton accords resulted in a U.S. military presence on the ground in Bosnia.

Snowe's congressional delegation had an experience remarkably similar to the one Sen. Clinton (D-N.Y.) described in a speech delivered on St. Patrick's Day. Clinton has since said that she "misspoke" when she recalled arriving in Tuzla under sniper fire.

Unlike Clinton's version, Snowe's story was backed up news accounts. Clinton's story has been debunked by sources including television news accounts and the memories of the comedian Sinbad.

The seven senators flew into the host city of the 1984 Olympics on a military C-130 that, in addition to its senatorial payload, was carrying 20,000 pounds of peas to the starved city. A States News Service dispatch from Oct. 20, 1995, provided a portion of Snowe's Bosnia account:

"It's really sad. People are basically just living there and trying to survive," the Maine Republican said. "They're constantly living under threat of shelling or sniper fire." . . . As the plane landed she took note of the fortified bunkers surrounding Sarajevo's airport. . . . She glanced at the wall of firetrucks lined up along the airport tarmac, acting as shields from any Serb gunman looking to make a name for himself. She dashed across the runway to an armored vehicle waiting to whisk the senators to the city center. She glared at the hollowed-out remains of buildings along the city's main highway, better known as "Sniper Alley."

And here's Clinton's description of her landing in Tuzla in 1996, with an entourage that included Sinbad and singer Sheryl Crow:

"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

That was Clinton's March 17 recounting of the '96 trip, coming six days after Sinbad had already publicly refuted Clinton's prior versions of the trip. In other accounts, Clinton had said there was a "threat of sniper fire," so they ran across the tarmac into an awaiting military vehicle.

The Tuzla airport case culminated this week with Clinton sheepishly admitting that she "misspoke" after archived CBS News footage showed her calmly walking off the plane with her daughter, Chelsea, then a teenager, at an arrival ceremony that offered no sign of gunfire.

Snowe, who is vacationing this week, declined to comment about her own trip 12 1/2 years ago.

more... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/26/AR2008032602971.html?nav=rss_politics/fedpage

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. Her daughter ducked into a coffee shopp to avoid the falling Trade Towers!!

:eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5269112&mesg_id=5269112

[Occam Bandage]

7. Nah.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5280299&mesg_id=5280299

[LaurenG]

13. Thank you for being fair

Obama gets creamed by stuff like that and it just doesn't end. You did the right thing ~ thanks.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

14. I should have put the :sarcasm: tag next to my :eyeroll:

Couldn't help but fuel the sensationalism though... :hide:

[redqueen]

16. Thanks!

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. At first I thought it was a fairly rational comment -

assuming she meant that people were worried about snipers taking pot-shots at the plane as it came in for a landing, necessitating an unusually steep rate of decline, as they did (and still do?) at the Bagdhad airport.

If she had left it at that, I'd have no problem with it - it's a rational worry.

But talking about ducking & running and all that, and sitting on flak jackets, when others there could dispute it, that's just bizarre.

[azmouse]

9. ...

[Cha]

15. In the Arizona Republic!

"Courage Under Liar" "Bosnia Medal of Pure Invention"! And, some thought it wouldn't have tenacles.

[azmouse]

17. Benson is really impartial as to who he blasts.

He pisses off both sides of the aisle equally. He's one of the best.

[Cha]

20. And this is so obviously in need

of blasting! Thanks az:)

[roguevalley]

26. part of its power is that it involves exploiting troops. that is unforgivable

the way this country is now

[Cha]

27. I know, rogue! That's why I couldn't believe

that something like this that was totally fabricated outta "let's make hilary look better cloth" wouldn't disgust anyone who wasn't a hilary surrogate.

[roguevalley]

33. we can but hope, zidzi. we've had eight years of troop exploitation

for politics.

[Cha]

39. Halleluja!

[GodlessBiker]

10. It's like Regan...she pictured herself doing something and it becomes real.

Sometimes, we begin to believe our own bullshit.

[Eric Condon]

11. Her "memory" has nothing to do with it.

She didn't "misspeak." It was a bald-faced lie. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Her ego and continued (delusional) sense of entitlement led her to basically think, "I can make up a complete lie to make myself look tough and experienced, and no one is going to bother to call me on it, because haven't you heard? I'm Hillary Clinton! I AM the Democrats! And if my lie just happens to denigrate the sacrifices of those who have actually been under sniper fire, oh well, they can go fuck themselves, just like the 4000+ troops who've died in the war I voted for and supported until it was unpopular."

[Cha]

19. Precisely, Eric..

Sinbad came out and tried to help her "remember" but she would have none of it..dismissing him as a comedian. hilary had all kinds of chances to disavow the bogus story.

The pilot, Colonel William "Goose" Changose, who flew them into Bosnia didn't say anything about her "story" even though as he said it's been on the military blogs for at least a month. But, it's out now and there's no denying that she flat out made up a tall tale to make herself look better.

hilary lies to make herself look better and she lies to make Obama look bad. And, this is the best the dlc has got?

[Barack_America]

23. *applause*

Yes that is it. That is exactly it.

You nailed it.

:patriot:

[leftstreet]

29. Classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder n/t

[KansasVoter]

37. She is that stupid?

She honestly thought that no one would check up on it?

[Eric Condon]

41. Maybe not stupid, but encased in a protective shell of inane delusion.

You know, the one that makes her think she has any chance of being the legitimate party nominee.

[ClayZ]

12. Maybe she thought Bill was trying to get her killed?

I think stress does funny things to your head. Enough stress and you get Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Maybe she has it!

I would if my marriage had been trashed on the public stage.

She is trying to get her damaged ego back. The Psyche plays tricks on us!

[Bonobo]

18. It's not about what she "thought" but about how low her opinion of the American people is.

She thinks people are that stupid?

[City Lights]

22. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones

she's concentrating on. :hi:

[HooptieWagon]

36. "She thinks people are that stupid?"

Evidently those who still support and defend her are... So I guess she was addressing her "base".

[Barack_America]

21. And the very thought of sending her into an active war zone, after the peace agreement...

Wouldn't reflect well on Bill's achievements in Kosovo.

And apparently she just plain forgot that she was accompanied on the trip by scores of journalists.

What a fool.

:eyes:

[Life Long Dem]

24. She really would misspeak over an event that never happened?

How do you make a mistake in recalling an event, that never happened in the first place?

[crankychatter]

25. It's bulls**t - It's a "gift for fiction"

be nice

[Not the Only One]

28. Hillary's a bullshitter

Harry Frankfurt said that while the liar is trying to lead us away from what she knows to be the truth, the bullshitter doesn't care about truth, because bullshitters don't believe in "truth."

She's a pathological liar, like a sociopath.

[msallied]

31. She's not "like" a sociopath

She IS one. She and her husband both.

[mainer]

32. She's too smart to lie about this. It's her memory.

I agree that this is a form of false memory syndrome. We've all probably experienced it -- remembering an incident differently than it actually happened. It's the only explanation for her claiming something that was so easily proved false. She probably really remembers it as happening under sniper fire.

It doesn't excuse her, though. Who wants a President with false memories?

[Tresalisa]

34. I hear ya on the false memory syndrome,

and as I add more birthdays, mine gets worse! Only thing is, I'm 110% sure I'd remember if I had to dodge sniper fire or not to get to safety, even if I couldn't remember the next day whether I'd worn the green scarf or the yellow scarf the previous day.

[mainer]

35. I've been amazed by my own weird memories of things

For years I swore I witnessed a certain crisis in my family. I swore I was present in the room. Then, decades later, I realized it was impossible -- I was away at college that week. But because my mother had talked about it again and again over the yars, I began to believe that I was actually there!

[McCamy Taylor]

38. Charles Krauthammer called Gore crazy, too. You guys are in some bad company,

[cooolandrew]

40. Let's just bless her and hope HRC sees truth soon. Our negativity probably is moving this further.