Seem to me the Democratic Doom & Gloom scenerios don't make any sense

[Atman]

By now most have us have heard the GOP-controlled media telling us that the entire Democratic Party is on the version of implosion, and by virtue of a couple of spats between the our two candidates voters are likely to flock to the side of John McCain, throwing out everything they've worked and hoped and prayed for for the last seven years.

They're reasoning? A poll stating that 20% of either Clinton's or Obama's supporter might vote for McCain if their first choice doesn't get the nomination. Now tell me, how does this in any way spell doom for either candidate, let alone for the party?

Right now, either Dem candidate can (and will) beat John McCain. I just don't have any doubt that in a real, honest election, that will be the outcome. Americans are simply not going to vote for 4/8 more years of this shit. It's not going to happen. Legitimately, anyway. So, if only 20% off either side defect, and either side is already going to beat McCain, that means 80% of either sides supporters go along with our nominee, whomever it is. How does this equate to Democrats being slaughters or even mildly roughed-up by McCain?

It's time (it's well passed time) that we simply stop believing ANYTHING any of the cable news shows say regarding this race. Clearly, Fox, MSNBC and CNN all want to give the impression that it's a horse race because a horse race is good for their ratings. There's the added benefit of them getting exactly the candidate they're looking for (Clinton) if they manage to pull it off. There is virtually no downside for the media corporations to dragging this fight out and making Americans afraid that the Democrats won't win. It's ratings gold for the news outlets.

Stop worrying about what the media assholes are saying about us killing ourselves. When we have a nominee, the vast majority of Democrats will cast their vote for that nominee. People aren't going to suddenly becomes Republicans and love tax cuts, deficits and endless war just because dey got there widdle feewings hurt.

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[bdamomma]

1. the media is just manipulating all of us.

[C_U_L8R]

2. Exactly... this tortured primary is ratings gold

literally gold.

[CTyankee]

3. I'm concerned about McCain rising in the national polls. I know that this is early

and polls change daily. But I also know, just instinctively, that McCain is able to spend his time campaigning for president, not for his nomination by his party, and we Dems are still battling and demeaning our candidates.

I'm not saying I believe all is lost. And I agree with you that people are fed up with the last 8 years of disaster from the Re publican party. I just don't see how this internecine battle will benefit us in any way leading up to the GE.

[DemVet]

5. I can understand your concern, but....

...from a sheer marketing perspective (and don't let ANYONE think this is not about marketing...because it is), having both Hillary's and Barack's name in the news so much, even in a negative light sometimes, IS A GOOD THING. Name recognition are repetition is what it is all about.

[CTyankee]

7. But it works both ways: Rev. Wright is seen as a negative forObama and

being caught in a lie (confirmed by actual videotape, not just by RW commentators on MSNBC)is seen as a negative for Hillary. Actual polls immediately following these incidents have shown this.

Look, if we Dems chortle with glee at how the McCain eff up in Iraq with Joe Lieberman correcting him, makes McCain look like an idiot, why don't we see how OUR candidates look when they eff up? It's two way street...

[DemVet]

8. Agreed. n/t

[DemVet]

4. I agree....The Democratic Party is FINE!!!

I agree with you when you say: "It's time (it's well passed time) that we simply stop believing ANYTHING any of the cable news shows say regarding this race. Clearly, Fox, MSNBC and CNN all want to give the impression that it's a horse race because a horse race is good for their ratings."

You hit it right on the head. These news people have nothing else to babble about so they invent all this crap.

I also agree when you said, "When we have a nominee, the vast majority of Democrats will cast their vote for that nominee."

Also, all these negative attacks on Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton ARE A GOOD THING. It's best they are out in the open NOW than right before the GE.

What...do we actully think the 'pubs AREN"T going to use EVERYTHING they can think of against our eventual Nominee?

Great thread.

[MrTriumph]

6. Consider down ballot races

This long, competitive race for the pres. nomination has been great in a few ways. It has driven many Democrats (and some R's) to the polls. In doing so it has motivated Democrats to get involved. Here in North Texas (very red) we will have a record number of Democrats attend this Saturday's Conventions.

How great was the turnout March 4? Former state rep. Nancy Moffat switched parties to run for her old seat in the Texas House. It is probably one of the most red state house districts in the US. Ms. Moffat drew more votes in the D primary that the incumbent did in the R primary. Before you say, well, the R primary was unimportant, there were still contested local races on the R primary ballot and the R turnout itself was a record.

So you are right. We could still have a Democratic presidential nominee elected in Nov. But will this prolonged fighting breed such discontent that our pres. nominee will have no coat tails?