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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:13 AM
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Hillary will be defeated in Texas on Saturday
Hillary will be defeated in Texas on Saturday
by Texasblue
Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 09:38:42 PM PDT

If you live in Texas and you voted for Obama and you caucused for Obama and you were elected as a delegate to the county convention, you know that this Saturday looms large. It looms large because Saturday is when the county conventions throughout Texas convene. It is Saturday when the outcome of the statewide caucuses will be ratified by the precinct delegates. It is Saturday when Hillary Clinton will discover, officially, that she was defeated by Barack Obama in the Lone Star state. Hillary may not like our quirky "Texas three-step" process...primary-caucus-county convention. But it is time-honored tradition here and the outcome is immutable.

After Saturday, Texas will be in the Obama column. He will have won the most pledged delegates...in a very BIG state.

Tonight, in precinct 335 in a tiny rural community 40 miles outside of Austin, 15-20 Obama delegates met to plan strategy for Saturday's convention. Taking nothing to chance, we organized a meeting held a private home. Most of us were relative strangers to each other. By the end of the evening, we were friends with a common mission, fired up once again and ready to go.

As the meeting got started, we went around the room and gave everyone the floor with some time to share why they support Obama, what their political background was and what this election means to them. Everyone in the room spoke extemporaneously and had some poignant, heartfelt story to share. This gathering was a metaphor for the Obama campaign itself...spontaneous, cerebral, passionate, patriotic. Everyone found a way to describe how Barack Obama touched them as no political figure in recent memory.

Almost all of the people in this room were middle aged white men and women. Most had been democrats all their lives but had gone into hiding in recent years. One or two delegates admitted sheepishly to voting in the past for Republicans. The one constant refrain spoken tonight was that we are at a "tipping point" and that this was our nation's "last chance" to get it right.

Most people have better things to do with their Saturdays than to spend them in a dinky ass county convention in podunk Texas. But nothing, nothing could be more important to this group of committed citizens. We will do our duty to elect Barack Obama no matter what it takes. We intend to do our part to change the course of history. The Obama delegates will show up Saturday en masse. Our voices will be heard. America will hear them and Texas will officially be Obama country.

Tags: President, Barack Obama, Texas, Primaries, Caucuses, Primacaucuses, 2008, Hillary Clinton, Recommended (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/27/03842/2974/1019/485117
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:16 AM
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1. Thanks for the update!
So if Obama comes out of the county conventions with a delegate lead, do you think the M$M will change their map colors?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:16 PM
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27. Or will it even count unless Hillary wins?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:18 AM
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2. Brace for the spin.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:21 AM
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3. I'll be there, representing Obama from SD-7! -eom
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:26 AM
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4. South Texas checking in
Hoping all goes smoothly, but I've heard the national media will be parked on our doorstep in case all hell breaks loose. ;)

dg
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:43 AM
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5. Get ready to be declared non-important.
We'll still love you in the morning, tho. :D
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:42 PM
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26. Yeah, and then they'll turn around and scream "disenfranchment "of MI and FL,
Kick.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:09 PM
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42. If being labeled "non-important"
will get RID of her and her whining/lawsuit threats/raining on the BEST Dem turnout in recent TX history....PLEASE, please, please label away!!!! I'll even purchase the label maker for her!!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:49 AM
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6. The big question is, will the MSM report it? nt
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:29 AM
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13. WaPo is covering my county's convention
thanks to all the shenanigans that went on at the precinct level. }(

dg
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:00 AM
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7. Obama in SD-15 here - fired up and ready to go.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:03 AM
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8. I've been calling for y'all from Florida
to make sure you all know where to go and when to be there!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:30 AM
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14. You haven't called me!
:cry: :sniff:

;)

Thanks for helping out!! :)

dg
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:01 AM
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16. I did Dallas 23 - that precinct is HUGE!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:45 AM
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21. That's a senatorial district ... and yes, it's huge!
Thanks for your support! :patriot:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:06 AM
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9. Yeargh!!
GOBAMA!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:09 AM
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10. I'll be waiting to hear what happens
Go get'em Obama delegates.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:11 AM
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11. Thanks for posting! A compelling read!
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:14 AM
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12. Texas..."three step"?
I swear, Texas DUers, your process is just one big mindfuck for me.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:50 AM
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22. Yeah, I think the only one we haven't seen dance has been Hillary.
Geez we even saw Chris Matthews...with Ellen Dengenerous. She had some good footage of it.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:35 AM
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15. Sounds very reassuring to me. =) WTG TEXAS!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:03 AM
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17. K&R. nt
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:10 AM
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18. Anyone in SD 24?
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:11 AM
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19. SD 18 is ready to go
I was impressed with the Obama delegate training program. It was well run and had standing room only at the session that I attended
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:13 AM
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20. This needs A LOT of media attention - digg it, buzz it, huff it, myspace it, facebook it, buz it UP!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:55 AM
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23. kick
:hi:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:15 AM
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24. SD 12, checking in
:kick:

FIRED UP AND READY TO GO


:kick:


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:19 AM
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25. Let's get it done! Yes we can!
:thumbsup:
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:23 PM
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28. Nope, Hilary won Texas (as well as Nevada). The delegates are a separate matter from the notion of
"wins" in a state. Wins are about momentum and support from people in a given state. The Latinos districts in Texas may have been penalized in delegates for having a lower turnout in 2004, but you can't take away the importance of their people. Bill Clinton lost Connecticut to Jerry Brown in 92, while picking up delgates, and it was touted by the media as a humiliating loss--it led off the national news. An Obama claim to victory is decietful and dishonest.

Steve
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:26 PM
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30. I really agree, the fact is more people in Texas support voted for HIllary than Obama
You can't say that's meaningless just because of some made up delegate rules. The idea of one person = one vote means something completely above all else.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:28 PM
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33. Whatever momentum came from TX is long gone no matter what happens
But you are being the dishonest one by blurring the definition of victory. Delegates are what count in this race even if your selected candidate is behind when using the metric that matters.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:29 PM
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34. Popular vote is what count in a democracy. One person = one vote.
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 08:30 PM by AGirl
Primary is opened to all, allows more people to express their natural right of self determination, this is what democracy is about. In a democracy, Hillary won the vote in Texas, lost the delegate count because of artifically designed rules.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:45 PM
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36. "artifically designed rules"
Rules that have been in place for at least 20 years. Hillary would have done better if she had prepared for Texas beforehand.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:10 PM
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43. kinda like super delegates? n/t
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:13 PM
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44. We are representative democracy - actually a republic
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 10:14 PM by wileedog
Popular vote as defined by the founding fathers is largely meaningless. They never envisioned or wanted mob rules.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:59 PM
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46. no mob rules..okay, so superdelegates should make their own independent decision.
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 11:00 PM by AGirl
popular vote = largely meaningless, nice to know you think like that.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:58 PM
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40. Get a grip Steve.
Texas is a marathon (just like there is a Marathon, Texas). You have to do it all. That's the HRC problem, IMHO. She has no staying power. She's ready on day 1, then ignores you on day 2.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:24 PM
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29. Hillary may not like our quirky
cacucus is not democratic, no democratic person should like this "process".
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:27 PM
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31. I'm ready for tomorrow, SD 10 here
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 08:27 PM by tammywammy
I have my Obama shirt ready. :)
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:28 PM
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32. thanks for that, does anybody know
what time the results will be announced?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 09:55 PM
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39. Call them in to barack's HQ as you learn them.
The folks running the individual counties/senate districts will be doing the same to the state.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:18 PM
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45. Keep in mind that there is one TX county not having their convention til Sunday afternoon
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 10:25 PM by rainbow4321
Collin County (just north of Dallas). They got a waiver from the state cuz there was no local facility big enough on Saturday to accomodate the expected 3,000 people that would also be in line with federal handicap access laws. Surprised HRC has not challenged the federal handicap laws over this yet!


So HRC gets another double kick in the ass with yet another TX 2 step..she gets 2 days worth of losing TX county conventions (Obama won in Collin County's precinct caucus' that Tuesday night so don't worry about Collin County taking away from his # of delegate totals you may hear Saturday night).


And I apologize in advance to people tired of all my "don't forget Collin County is on Sunday" posts...just get this feeling like my county is showing up late for the dance--or after the dance--not because of DUers responses but because the MSM is gonna only report by what #'s they get their hands on Saturday night and act like it's all a done deal before my county's delegates even get into their convention doors on Sunday!
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:42 PM
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35. Primaries = Delegate game.
Barack's team knew this, and the scoreboard is rewarding him.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:52 PM
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37. Wanna bet that suddenly Hillary will start pointing out that NO Dem. could win TX in the GE?
Moving the goalpost once again...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:58 PM
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38. Waaaaaaaaaaa...I'm
all shook up! :cry: That was poignant and just emotionally tearing at my heart strings. :loveya: Texas!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:00 PM
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41. I just talked to my brother that worked with ANN RICHARDS
When she was a County Commissioner and he was the County Judge.

HE SAID IT IS OVER, NOT TO WORRY, HILLARY HAS LOST.
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