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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:57 AM
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Obama: The Biblical Prophecy
Obama: Breaking the barriers between Church and State.

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I gave the following article to Senator Barak Obama and his wife the week after his announcement in order to encourage them and to strengthen his faith in Gods Providence. But because of the nature of the prophecy, I could not make it public.

I am moved by the Holy Spirit that now is the time for African American Pastors across South Carolina and the South to be made aware that this is more than History.

Please be kind enough to read and then disseminate . . . and may God defend the right!

SONS OF ISSACHAR
A Biblical Rationale for the Presidential Campaign of Barak Obama
by
Kenneth R. Adderley, Ph.D., M.Div., M.A.
Professor of Religion & Theology
Bethsaida Bible Institute
http://www.bethsaidabible.org

The devil hit us with Osama,
But God raised up Obama,
The devil hastily made a death-launching push
By stealing elections and approving Bush,
But God, whose Will is not slack,
Remembered the prophecy and raised up Barak.


Baraks Victory (Judges 4: 3-5:15)

Winning the War

1. The next time the Bible mentions Issachar is when he moved from being a slave to becoming a soldier.

2. Gods people were fighting for their lives, and God moved upon Deborah, a prophetess and a judge (counselor) in Israel to go to Barak (same name) and encourage him to lead the fight to save the nation and the people.

3. Barak hesitated (Judges 4:8) but agreed to go if Gods prophetess would go with him to battle.

4. The bible says that Deborah arose and went with Barak (v.9) and that he called Zebulon and Naphtali, armed soldiers of war to go up with them. (I do not know if this reference is to Michele) but notice that Bible does not mention that Barak called out Issachar to fight. However, all through the wilderness wanderings Issachar is always encamped somewhere between Zebulon and Naphtali, with three tribes on each of the four-sided encampment.


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No worries Obama supporters. Nancy Pelosi, who is running the Convention in Denver, founded the Democratic "Christian Coalition". Obama is the ONE. HE has been chosen to bring more Evangelical Voters to the flock. To see the way. Can I get an Amen?

O8)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:59 AM
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1. This could actually work on the right wingnuts
:rofl:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:01 PM
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39. Paul Newman has a great speech in Exodus about this. SIGH!
Such dreamy blue eyes. :P
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:59 AM
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2. A-fucking-men!
Is this person for real?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:01 AM
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3. Oh my! "The One"
Welcome your new messiah, folks!
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:06 AM
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4. I'm in the tank for Senator Obama....
...but he's a job applicant, not a messiah. Haven't we learned our lesson from President Insane?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:14 AM
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7. Thanks for saying that. "We don't need another hero. All we need is to find the way home . . . ."
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:15 AM by patrice
This sort of thing is very damaging with religious others who disagree with a coronation of a "ONE".

All of that distracts from the vital tasks at hand.

Besides which, Obama seems to be saying it's not about a "ONE" it's about us.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:14 AM
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8. I'm just reporting the Prophecy
:hi:

Pelosi would have us believe that the lesson we learned from President Insane is that we need more of that good ol' religion to bring more voters into our flock.

Doesn't thrill me much. :-(



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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:19 AM
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11. I think this whole country needs to step back and think about the definition of Blasphemy.
All of these revelations coming at us externally = VERY creepy stuff.

Truth has an internal private ground. Trying to graft this of that onto it, for whatever "good" reasons, has historically resulted in many abominations.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:27 AM
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14. Thank you! Correct! Obamanation = abomination
I don't think they realize how offensive this is
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 AM
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16. Case in point: What you just posted is Blasphemy. nt
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 AM
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49. How about fuck blasphemy? Does that count? n/t
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:32 AM
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17. Truth --does-- have an internal private ground
For me.... truth is very personal. I'm bothered that there are those in the Democratic Party that exploit the individual spirit for purely political purposes. But.... that's just me.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:47 AM
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20. If it's personal, why don't you just let those who are being "exploited" take care of themselves.
Truth, internal and/or otherwise, is, by definition, inevitable. The best thing you can do for the truth is to tend to yourself, be as honest in ALL things as you can be, that is what those who you claim are being exploited need.

It is a FALSE thing for you to interfere with their perceptions of truth, just as false as what you claim the Democratic Party is doing.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 AM
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24. Sooo.... you're okay with mixing Religion and Politics?
It is a FALSE thing for me to respect the spirit of the individual? There is only ONE Truth?

I gave ya' one link down below. You can dismiss this post as just the crazy ramblings of an internets tubes poster, but it IS where the Democratic Party wants to go.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 AM
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26. I think truth is inevitable and y/our projections violate the very principles you claim to espouse.
YOU are mixing politics and relgion. I DON'T KNOW what all of those "exploited" folks are doing, but I DO know what you are doing, and your assumption that you can go around doing this sort of thing to "save" folks from the horrible Obaminator PROVES that you think you are somekind of SAVIOR.

You don't have a problem with mixing politics and relgion; you're problem is when it's not YOUR politics and/or religion.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:12 AM
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28. Again. I'm just reporting the Prophecy
And honey... believe me... you don't know me. I'm not trying to SAVE anyone. Is there a forum on Religion around here? I'd be happy to have a "discussion" on this with you if you feel I'm just upset because I have a problem with my conflicted politics and/or religion.
:hi:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:50 AM
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48. did you catch that?
If you are trying to warn people about following a savior, well, then you are trying to save them! That makes you a savior.

Have to wonder about that logic.

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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:01 AM
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54. The only warning I'm giving.........
Is that the Democratic Party is heading down a road I'm not traveling on. You're ok with Prayer Groups in Public Schools? Obama is. I'm not. If you're kewl with that kinda' stuff,... go for it.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:06 AM
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5. So how does OUR story end...?
The Bible tells that after the victory of Barak and Deborah,
the leader of the enemy (Sisera) flees the battle,
hides out in the tent of Jael, who impales him with
a tent spike while he sleeps...

So, who is Sisera (Cheney?)..
and who is Jael who does the honors?

Stay tuned, faithful flock,
and see how this prophetic soap opera
winds up.... as the stomach turns...
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:06 AM
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6. ...Neo?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:18 AM
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10. He is Morpheus, we are Neo, "I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door."
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:17 AM
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9. I will vote no to the Pastor in Chief
I found this link regarding your post http://www.hbcunetwork.com/modules/membersinfo/members_info.cfm?user_id=32815

It is a pathetic concept




NO to the Pastor in Chief




last October he told an audience of 4,000 that he hoped to be "an instrument of God" and that "I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth".
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:24 AM
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12. Sadly. It's where the Democratic Party wants to go


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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:27 AM
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15. And you speak for The Party in what capacity? nt
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:34 AM
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18. None
I just know where folks like Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, et al want to go with this "got religion" stuff.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:42 AM
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19. How do you know these things? Did they tell you? nt
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:48 AM
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21. Nothing special.... just that 'Google Thing'
To reach the voters alienated from the Democratic Party, Dean has been studying the way that the Christian Coalition built its movement, according to people who have spoken with the former governor. He ...

http://ctlibrary.com/ct/2005/februaryweb-only/13.0b.html

Do you want more?

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 AM
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23. Using google to infer the most private workings of people's minds and hearts is delusional.
Have you ever taken a course in logic?

Do you have any idea how technology creates what you are reading?

Using google to INFER the most private motives and thoughts of others is like looking at a pile of dogshit and describing its owner's thoughts on love AND then prophecying the future of humanity.

Inferences have NO logical necessity, by the way.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 AM
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25. Do they give courses on Logic by mail order?
:dunce:

I see I touched a nerve with you. My bad. I guess the inference of the Faith Working Group in the Democratic Party doesn't have a logical necessity but it sure has a politcal one.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:33 AM
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29. Saying that they are trying to create a Messiah is not fair.
There are religious Democrats. Corporate media characterizes the Party in negative religious terms. So there's a working group to examine those two facts.
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:10 AM
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31. No, it's not fair. But it is a bad side effect of the mixture
And when you open that door there is no going back. It is disrespectful of YOU and ME when a Political Party places the needs of the Party above the Spirituality of the Individual. Obama is seen as the perfect mixture. So be it. For me... there is no "perfect mixture" and there never will be.

Peace
:hippie:

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:29 PM
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34. We agree about "perfection". nt
:hi:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:24 AM
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13. indeed -- religiosity pervades the whole campaign. not into it. nt
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:09 AM
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27. not into anyone that sees themselves as an instrument of God
certainly not to build his kingdom on earth as POTUS

Wonder what his plan is for those he deems 'divisive' from his policies. May we never find out.


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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:48 AM
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22. Aw, he has no photos or shout-outs!
It's apparently very lonely being insane.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 PM
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40. ...........
:spray: dude...soda burns like HELL coming out of your nose
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:06 AM
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30. Speak not ill of the chosen one, or be smited. The whole thing gives me the creeps.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:24 AM
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32. LOL!
:spray:


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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:11 AM
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55. I've been smited all to hell by now then. Obama is an albatross.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:28 AM
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33. Please, keep your religion outta' my government!!
Your assertion that Obama is the "One" in a religious sense just makes me want to puke. I don't want a preacher president and neither should you. It goes against the very foundations of our democracy!

Get a grip, man, Obama is not the be all to end all, he's just another politician!!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:38 PM
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35.  Matthew 20:16: So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 12:43 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
oy oy oy

A saying of Jesus; in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus declares that in the world to come, The last shall be first and the first last. 1
The teaching implies that those who have prospered through wickedness will fail, whereas the good who have suffered for the sake of God will win salvation.


sounds like we maybe in for another round of Bible thumping in the WH

I'm going to hell in a hand basket!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:10 PM
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41. You're going to hell? shit...I'll be driving the bus!
:toast:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:52 PM
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36. He has risen...
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:04 PM
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38. Obama hasn't
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:38 AM
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58. He has risen indeed.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:52 PM
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37. ~*~....
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:00 PM
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42. seriously.. these obama as messiah for the religious wrong posts are really creepy...
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:06 PM
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43. I saw a website that proved with scripture that
he is the anti-Christ. Should I take that seriously?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:47 PM
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44. Yet another reason I don't trust him.
He is a false prophet.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:07 PM
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45. Amen
OMG. Some of our elected officials are religious! {GASP}
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:27 AM
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46. That wasn't the point
When ya' get a chance read the entire thread. Then we'll "talk"
:hi:
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:44 AM
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60. Oh, I'm sorry, there was a point?
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:13 AM
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61. Nope
I can see where this is going. :eyes: Sorry I wasted your time but thanks for kicking the thread. :P

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:37 AM
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47. "We have to fix our SOULS - Our souls are BROKEN"
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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:56 AM
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50. Thanks. I had not seen that video before
I don't understand why the merging of church and state doesn't bother anyone. Guess I'll cross it off my list of "progessive" ideology.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:56 AM
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51. Bookmarked.
Because I thought I'd seen really funny shit on DU in the past.

This beats all.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:57 AM
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52. Oh, and K/R, too.
Because everyone has to see this funny shit.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:57 AM
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53. This is more than creepy...
It is downright frightening. I don't even know where to begin in commenting on the OP. So, I won't.

Man, what happened to my country...to my party???

-P
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:25 AM
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57. How did you come to Obama?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:01 AM
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59. I Didn't n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:13 AM
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56. The creepy crap posted above is, IMO = Lower than a snake's belly.
:thumbsdown:
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