Why I am very happy that the Clinton campaign does not know what we talk about.

[grantcart]

After the Iowa County Convention there were a number of threads and we paid close attention to what was happening. It was a major delegate defeat for the Clinton campaign, she in effect lost 10 delegates to Obama. It wiped away all of their hard fought delegate wins of super Tuesday. For the delegate race it was as if Ohio never happened. The media made a note of it but the average DUer was better informed about than anyone else. Googling County Convention Iowa Results would bring you back to DU.

In my thread I noted that after Iowa that there was a real 'buyers remorse' after Iowa


And I highlighted several comments made by the Clinton campaign after Iowa that most certainly had an impact on their popularity and their delegates. It had a high visibility, lots of comments and lots of readership - with many expressing real surprise that the Clinton campaign would continue to 'piss on the caucuses while they were still making up their minds'.

Fortunately the Clinton campaign does not read and learn these lessons.

Today, as everyone knows, Govenor Richardson endorses Senator Obama.



The Clinton campaign responded:

“The time that he could have been effective has long since passed,” he continued. “I don’t think it is a significant endorsement in this environment.”

Richardson responded

But, you know, I resent the fact that the Clinton people are now saying that my endorsement is too late because I only can help with Texans — with Texas and Hispanics, implying that that’s my only value. You know, that’s typical of some of his advisers that kind of turned me off,”


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/21/clinton-aide-says-richardsons-endorsement-is-insignificant/?mod=WSJBlog?mod=googlenews_wsj


New Mexico has 6 superdelegates currently committed to Clinton

There are over 30 hispanic superdelegates.

[better tomorrow]

1. Oh, I'm sure someone on their staff is reading us.....

[XemaSab]

2. There's a difference between reading and comprehending

:P

[better tomorrow]

4. you got me on that one.....

:rofl:

[jgraz]

7. There's reading, there's comprehending, and there's giving a shit what we think

Even Hillary supporters will agree, she's not exactly known as a grass-roots candidate. I doubt that her top-down management style will allow room for the opinions of a few thousand peasants who just happen to be hardworking, loyal Democrats.

[crispini]

16. Peasants! That's me!

Fucking precinct chair peasant who works her ass off, but damn straight I'm a peasant.

[Kittycat]

18. Actually...

One responded today, something about them being the an all over netroots campaign or something to that effect :rofl:

[grantcart]

26. lol

[juno jones]

15. Apes do read philosophy Otto,

They just don't understand it.

:P

edit: with apologies to Wanda and the Fish...

[grantcart]

23. This campaign needs more John Cleese

[blm]

Heh - don't we know it. But, there is ONE person they have that CAN comprehend

pretty damn well, and I would bet anything he wished he had not jumped the gun and let himself be convinced to work for Hillary2008 so early on.

Based on his natural goodness and once sterling integrity he should have been a top Obama guy by now.

[ginnyinWI]

3. the point is that they didn't take our lead

they didn't listen to what the people thought. And it's too late now.

[Eric J in MN]

5. I doubt that any of Hillary Clinton's top staffers read DU.

Elizabeth Edwards is the only high-level person in politics we ever got evidence visits here.

[zonkers]

8. That was great when she showed up!!!!!! Like partying with a rock star.

[grantcart]

17. hope she is lurking now

[Voice for Peace]

24. If she is I hope Elizabeth will urge John to endorse Obama, soon.

[Mimosa]

34. John, Elizabeth, now's the time!

Voice for peace, I do indeed hope the Edwards will endorse Obama. Only Obama will even try to do anything to help lower class and middle class people. The Clintons are happy to be among the very rich and privileged: those are their peer group, their best friends.

The fact that the Obama family attended a church where poor people went showed me that they wanted to stay in touch. John Edwards says she cares about regular people. Now is the time to show it, please. We will love you forever, Elizabeth!

[better tomorrow]

20. maybe not but they read passport files......

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

13. "Drop out!"

[Cha]

6. Yeah, I guess all of hilary's little hilarys on

DU haven't been able to get the word to her.. their mission is just to snark and nasty.

Thanks for the pic..now I see what they were all talking about with Richardson's beard. :)

30 Hispanic Delegates..oh my.

[grantcart]

27. shhhhhh

[Tatiana]

9. People are missing a key point made in Richardson's quote:

You know, that’s typical of some of his advisers that kind of turned me off,”

Is Hillary running this campaign or BILL?

[grantcart]

11. See Hillary didn't show up for the SuperBowl

[Blondiegrrl]

21. I wondered about that too. Was that a typo? Did Richardson mean to

say "she"? Or was he talking about Bill Clinton, or possibly Mark Penn? (Does Mark Penn have advisers? In context, it almost seemed like he was referring to Penn.)

[Tatiana]

22. It was NOT a typo. Here is the video:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/03/21/king.richardson.intv.cnn

About the 3:45 mark. Sounded like he was referring to Bill Clinton to me.

[Cha]

28. Wow, I didn't catch that..

It's the billary show.

[2rth2pwr]

10. Cries of racism! as soon as he joins Obama's team.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Yep.....we're crying alright....

of laughter!

[grantcart]

14. Carville calls Richardson a Judas on Good Friday

The reaction of some of Mr. Clinton’s allies suggests that might have been a wise decision. “An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.

“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

[futureliveshere]

19. wow..

talk about turning the guy off.. no wonder he didnt want anything to do with them.

[Voice for Peace]

25. what an idiot. nt

[grantcart]

29. something of an absence of a learning curve

[Mimosa]

35. Carville is a SERPENT

Carville's long been in bed with Corporate America and out of touch with regular people. He's SLITHERED to a new low, hasn't he?

He never cared about the ideals of the Democratic Party, only about becoming rich and powerful. He has attained that to a certain extent by attaching himself to the Clintons. And for him to do such an evil 'us vs. them' against another Democratic candidate shows he's not a true democrat in his heart. Bill Richardson IS!!!!

[grantcart]

44. he has been good about camoflauging it - as they come to their final hours

he has to come out biting

[Arkana]

30. America is not ready for a bearded vice president.

[tokenlib]

32. Yeah, I heard that crap in Psychology class too.....

People are put off by beards. Beards push people away.

I actually like the beard...but he'd shave it off for the VP nod..the consultants would remind him of the psych "facts".

[Arkana]

33. I was being facetious.

[grantcart]

37. 'face - tious'?

[Arkana]

38. Oh I see what you did there good sir

[grantcart]

40. could not resist

[Why Syzygy]

31. K&R

[Ysabel]

36. k and r...

"Googling County Convention Iowa Results would bring you back to DU"...

- i love that... :D

[grantcart]

39. and then down on the thread I made a funny update about that and one hour

later the reply made the top google response. lol

[Ysabel]

41. hahaha that's really funny... n/t

[Scurrilous]

42. K & R

:thumbsup:

[rainbow4321]

43. They better damn hope HRC DONORS don't read DU

Cuz with all the threads focusing on her mismanaging their donations, they may stop taking her phone calls--which at this point are going to be "will you accept a collect call from Sen. Clinton?"