try not to go too hard on Bill....

[galaxy21]

Despite what it may look like sometimes, he does love his wife, and wants this badly for her. He's probably trying to make up for Monica/Gennifer/random ho...

Bill is doing what he's doing out of love and guilt, not because he hates Obama and doesn't want him in the white house. He's not a racist, either.

If you were him would you tell your wife of 30 something years her dreams were over?

[TwilightGardener]

1. I believe this. I just think it's sad, the lengths both of them will go to for this.

[bunnies]

2. He's gotten enough free passes from me over the years.

No more. I've had it.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. Same here. I defended him throughout the 90s.

Even during the Lewinsky scandal when I was, quite honestly, disgusted by his behavior. But protecting our republic from the attempted Newt Gingrich coup was more important so I was steadfast in my support. And how am I rewarded? By a disgustingly negative campaign and embarassing behavior by him.

[bunnies]

23. I've even gotten to the point that

I'm starting to feel like a sucker for ever supporting him to begin with.

Between the Clinton camps lies and the nastiness and the love-fest with McCain... I'm not even sure if I could support her in the GE anymore. A "D" after the name is not enough to make up for all this. What a disappointment.

[msallied]

41. I'm with you completely on this.

[Debi]

29. You mean...Not This Time?

:hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

38. I see what you did there!

Clever.:)

[Debi]

40. I'm thinking signs should be made.....

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

3. Bill's problem is that empty space in the center of his being

The one he fills with whatever bullshit he thinks he needs to get through the day.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. And Joe McCarthy was a drunk.

That really doesn't excuse him questioning people's patriotism though.

[FARAFIELD]

5. I know

I like him, was a great prez, he is blowing his rep, for what? Hillary, she doesnt have a chance.

[leftofcool]

6. What he is saying

is that in a matchup bewteen his wife and McCain, it wouldn't be negative but be between two people who both love their country........."all that other stuff" was probably a reference to Monica L. Of course, the Obama supporters want to spin it differently and no doubt MSNBC will make it looks as though he say saying that Obama doesn't love his country.

[dkf]

10. Sigh...why are you so clueless. Reading your posts makes my brain hurt

[TwilightGardener]

11. Why would he imply that an Obama/McCain matchup would be negative?

Is he saying that people should vote for his wife because...why? She's white? She loves her country as much as McCain, that other guy doesn't?

[leftofcool]

13. Not negative between Clinton and McCain

could be they have just known each other too long to rehash old stuff

[TwilightGardener]

21. Yeah, right--Obama is all kinds of a negative "issues-less" campaigner.

You are in contortions with your spin now.

[DearAbby]

15. Was he talking about Monica prior to this statement?

Why in hell would we reference this statement to the MONICA ORDEAL, if it wasnt the topic of discussion? That sure is a hell of a reach, hope you didnt pop anything out of joint, stretching like that.

[leftofcool]

16. He was talking about negativity in GE campaigns

but you spin it any way you like

[DearAbby]

30. I am spinning?

I am not pulling a topic out of my ass to try to explain what he clearly meant...sort of like Hillary's "McCain has a Lifetime of Experience, She has a lifetime of experience...Obama has just a speech" now two of them.

Guess since the big dawg didnt mention Obama by name at all...we can spin it to mean that GW isn't, or Cheney...or -Fill in the blank-

The RW has been doing the Patriotic bullshit, the "not saying the pledge" bullshit, doesn't "wear a flag pin" bullshit....tell me how the hell and I supposed to take this...dont spin so fast, this granny gets motion sickness real easy.

[crispini]

18. What? In the context of the week (Wright, race)

"all of that other stuff" can refer to nothing else but that. Monica doesn't even come into it.

[JVS]

36. They can't run a clean campaign against Obama, I'd be pissed if they ran a clean one against McCain

[uponit7771]

7. wow...yeah...thats hard

[dkf]

8. He burned his elder statesman status for this losing effort.

So sad. He has no credibility no more.

[gateley]

20. But he still has money -- and THAT'S what matters more than anything, so

he'll do just fine.

[book_worm]

9. I think he loves his legacy and thinks if H is repudiated it will reflect on him in some way

p.s.
I don't doubt that Bill also loves Hillary.

[MrSlayer]

14. If I cared about her I'd tell her the truth.

So, yes, I would tell her if I were he.

[gateley]

26. They might both believe it's still doable.

It is probably inconceivable to them that she won't be the next POTUS since they've focused on and believed in this for several years. And they're not used to losing much, either. I've been thinking during this campaign that they're probably reeling at the support Obama has garnered -- support I think THEY felt would be there for Hillary.

Take it from a Biden supporter, you can look at teeny positives and make them mean more than they really are, and you have hope and optimism as a result.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. He shot his load on a blue dress years ago

Face it, that is when he literally and figurative was done
and lost his credibility when he pointed his finger at the
American people and lied rather than say So What, I made a stupid mistake.

[cottonseed]

19. He needs to love his wife enough to pull the plug on her

campaign, the costs of this thing are skyrocketing and I'm not sure she'll be able to make this miracle happen.

[grantcart]

22. explanation: Richardson endorsement is driving them crazy

[BlueIdaho]

24. Doing his duty

Trying to take one for the team to get the focus off of Richardson's endoresement for the weekend talking heads cycle.

[City Lights]

25. My concern for America comes before my concern for the Clintons.

I have no idea why they are doing what they are doing and I don't really care. She can't win. I'm sure they both know it. If she were as patriotic as he claims, she would drop out. America can't afford anymore of the Clintons' egos.

[scheming daemons]

27. Please.... don't put "hard on" and "Bill" in the same sentence....

...

[uponit7771]

28. lol!!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. he was deeply hurt by Richardson's endorsement and I believe he let his emotions get the better

[grantcart]

37. exactly just like he was upset about Obama's remarks about Reagan and that it made him say stupid

things in South Carolina?

You think this helps? It just shows that under pressure - Obama is cooler than Clinton

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. excuse me but, in case you didn't know Bill is NOT the candidate..so your last remark is just stupid

[scheming daemons]

42. Except for the fact that Hillary continues to try to run on *HIS* record.....

...instead of her own.

[grantcart]

44. well you only think on the most obvious level so it has to be spelled out in detail

The main theme of the Clinton campaign is that she has more experience and would be cooler under pressure that Obama.

What your reply accurately shows is that Clinton is rattled by the Richardson endorsement and has started yet another set of gaffes.

Obama has been under much more intense fire and has stayed cooler than the former President thereby showing that he has more than

enough experience and calm to be effective under pressure.

[cliffordu]

32. Not her, I wouldn't

:rofl:

[JVS]

33. Fuck him. He's doing this at our expense.

[catnhatnh]

34. "he does love his wife,and want's this badly for her..."

Are you INSANE??? We're not talking a weekend at a bed & breakfast or a piece of jewelry here-the item under discussion is the Presidency of the Republic at a time when it is in danger of collapse.And after being granted the honor of serving in that position himself and all the good things and easy money and adulation that came after he does THIS to the hundreds of millions of Americans who gave him that chance.He trashes a candidate supported by half the democrats and in such a way as to BOOST the chances of the republican??? Bill Clinton has surrendered any legitimacy he ever had with me as a democrat and now seems a part of the flow of capitol cronyism that runs from Nixon thru Bush II with only the Carter interruption....as far as I am concerned he can go and NAFTA himself.....

[boston bean]

35. get a fuckin grip!

[msallied]

43. Bill Clinton has no love for anyone but himself.

And I defended him. Still think that he did an overall good job leading this country. But he's a crooked bastard and always has been, and their tactics in this primary have tarnished them completely in my eyes.