What will keep Obama from throwing Democrats under the bus just like he did to Granny?

[mtnsnake]

The more and more I hear him talking about reaching out to Republicans in order to get elected, the more worried I am that he will bail out on us just like he did to Gramma. Anytime you bail out on one of your own, it is not a good sign, folks. Heck, if you can't be loyal to family, then who can you be loyal to?

If by some miracle, Obama gets elected, you know dam well that the Repukes are going to hold him to his word, and that means everything we fight for will be compromised...like separation of church and state, less government deregulation of industries, and possibly even the environment. With the way things are right now, this is no time to be reaching out to the same people that have wrecked this country from top to bottom.

The only reaching out to Republicans that any Democrats should do is reach out across the isle and slap the shit out of them for what they've done to us.

[DURHAM D]

1. He has already thrown

boomer, pre boomers and gays and lesbians under the bus. Why stop now. This guy is not a Democrat.

[trained specialist]

33. He would be a Leiberman in a nanosecond.

[emilyg]

60. That's his hero.

[zabet]

2. He has thrown so many under the bus,

he is even talking about having
Poppy Bush in his administration.

:wow:

[bunnies]

28. And Hillary has talked about using BOTH Bush and Powell as ambassadors.

Next.

[zabet]

30. Next what?

Obama is supposed to be 'different' and
that means he is not supposed to do everything
Hillary does.
He is not a different type of politician like
he claims. It is outright hypocrisy for him
to even say that any more.

[bunnies]

38. hypocrisy. hypocrisy. hypocrisy. hypocrisy.

Could that word possibly BE any more over-used? Even claims of hypocrisy are hypocritical at this point. Its become a joke.

[zabet]

45. I ain't laughing. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Why do you expect different treatment for his grandmother and his pastor?

Is it because of their different skin colors?

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

4. Only after he throws all the cute puppies and kittens he can get his hands on.

[rndmprsn]

5. when he throws the clintons under the bus and gets the nomination...

then he might come for you...?

[babylonsister]

6. YOU should be ashamed of yourself for repeating r/w talking points.

From DUer EffieBlack:


"Obama threw his grandmother under the bus" - nearly 700 Google hits

Obviously, this is the RW - and apparently DU - talking point for the day.

FYI, to all those who are tempted to use this pathetic claim, Obama spoke in depth about this in his book more than 10 years ago:

"{My grandfather} turned around and I saw that he was shaking. ‘It is a big deal. It’s a big deal to me. She’s been bothered by men before. You know why she’s so scared this time. I’ll tell you why. Before you came in, she told me the fella was black.’ He whispered the word. ‘That’s the real reason why she’s bothered. And I just don’t think that right.’

"The words were like a fist in my stomach, and I wobbled to regain my composure. In my steadiest voice, I told him that such an attitude bothered me, too, but reassured him that Toot’s fears would pass and that we should give her a ride in the meantime. Gramps slumped into a chair in the living room and said he was sorry he had told me. Before my eyes, he grew small and old and very sad. I put my hand on his shoulder and told him that it was all right, I understood.

"We remained like that for several minutes, in painful silence. Finally he insisted that he drive Toot after all, and struggled up from his seat to get dressed. After they left, I sat on the edge of my bed and thought about my grandparents. They had sacrificed again and again for me. They had poured all their lingering hopes into my success. Never had they given me reason to doubt their love; I doubted if they ever would. And yet I knew that men who might easily have been my brothers would still inspire their rawest fear."

He didn't - to use the recently ubiquitous term - "throw his grandmother under the bus." He spoke openly and honestly about his own personal experiences in a family who he loves very much, something he has been doing since before he ran for public office.

Of course, one of the reasons people are trying to mischaracterize and caricature this is that Obama's personal observation was so compelling and impactful - they'll do anything they can to try to smear, denigrate and belittle it and him.

[Emit]

11. It's a form of race baiting, babylonsister

and it concerns me very much that we are seeing this kind of thing repeatedly on DU. Fortunately, it is confined to only a handful. Unfortunately, multiply that by 3 per day, 7 days a week, and we see way too much of it.

[babylonsister]

21. It IS exhausting setting these whackadoos straight. I know this OP;

let's just say he has a history of trying to incite because he loves the flames. Maybe he's a fireman!

[Ron Green]

63. How can you know him when he doesn't even give his name?

???

[Forkboy]

68. I actually considered him a cool dude until a couple weeks ago.

But the pattern of constant ignorance and flamebait is getting too hard to look past.

[mtnsnake]

26. Race baiting? WTF??

How is saying that Obama bailed out on someone in his own family construed to be race baiting???? How is asking if he'll bail out on Dems by reaching out to Republicans race baiting??????

Ya know what? I think YOU are race baiting!

[babylonsister]

41. Then what ARE you doing? See post#6. nt

[mtnsnake]

49. What am I doing? Read the frigging OP and find out...instead of inserting your own BS theories

Jayeeeeeesus!!!

[DURHAM D]

42. Agree.

Most Obama supporters don't understand what he is doing. Guess their children will learn it from their history books.

[mtnsnake]

50. No kidding. Everyone knows all the Obamawhiners got together

and emailed each other with that big whinefest letter last week telling everyone to accuse the Hillary supporters of race baiting if they dare criticize Obama for anything.

[2rth2pwr]

64. Race baiting=criticizing Obama

[Emit]

67. No

Race baiting is bringing the Fox News Rush Limbaugh race bait crap and spreading it on DU.

It's viral race baiting and it's sickening to see DUers stooping to that level.

[pocoloco]

7. Real shame that it is worrying your beautiful mind.

Can't say I give a rat's ass though!

[TwilightGardener]

8. Mass Ignore:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5194028

[mtnsnake]

9. hahaha, I love it when you Obamawhiners cant face the truth so you call for "mass ignore"

like a bunch of babbling little babies. LOLOLOL!!!

[Lerkfish]

12. oops, ironically, I was just calling YOU a whining baby in another post

how ironic is that?

[mtnsnake]

18. Great minds think alike, Lerky!

Hey what else can I say, other than I was right and you were wrong, even though we both came up with the same thought :smoke:

[Lerkfish]

19. um, nope, I'm pretty sure I'm right on this one.

but hey, it doesn't matter, in a few weeks you'll be irrelevant.

[JoFerret]

24. It is quite ridiculous to ignore a whole state

but Massachusetts does have a lot of dems....


Seriously though: - granny - bus chucking did not happen.
However - potential democrat chucking a good probability. That's how divisiveness is.

[Lerkfish]

10. wow, pathetic, transparent, desperate.

[shraby]

13. I just started to use the ignore button

and it really feels good to get rid of the hate mongers, disruptors and ones who use the r/w talking points. I have now "tombstoned" you mtnsnake. One by one I'm cleaning up du. for my use.

[mtnsnake]

17. Oh what crushing news to get put on ignore by a DU Obamawhiner. lol

[BOSSHOG]

20. Would Senator Obama put anyone ignore?

In the interest of unity and diversity? From what I am reading in GD-P you have done a pathetic job of cleaning up DU.

[stray cat]

14. I heard the statement and granny did not get thrown under the bus

Has any female ever gotten nervous at night out by herself with not many people around when a man she doesn't know walks by? Does it make a difference if the man is caucasian, black or hispanic, single or in a group, well dressed or in "gangster" type clothes?

[mtnsnake]

15. Actually, Obama already threw real Dems under the bus & recruited hordes of whiners to replace them

as "the new Democrats", the new breed of Democrats that will put the final nail in our Party's coffin.

[Lerkfish]

16. LOL!

[LSK]

32. you mean like all the Hillbots whining about Obama's media coverage??

[Mz Pip]

22. Have you had many converts

to the Hillary campaign with this bullshit? Is you Inbox filled with "OHMYGOD YOU ARE SOOOOOO RIGHT ABOUT WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON OBAMA IS THAT I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND!"

I somehow doubt it. :eyes:

[mtnsnake]

23. Do you have nose trouble or something?

Jeesh

[Mz Pip]

62. Not at all

I can smell the stench of your posts all the way through cyberspace. :eyes:

[workinclasszero]

25. Boy the reich wingnuts sure like that throw granny under the bus BS

So do Hillary's minions on DU.

You guys takin orders from the same people?:shrug:

[onenote]

27. I can see why a few "Democrats" ought to be thrown under the bus

[mtnsnake]

29. From what you've been posting lately, you've clearly taken 1 greyhound bus to the head too many

Look both ways before crossing, dude, and you might start making more sense someday if you recover.

[onenote]

40. thanks for your concern. But I feel just fine.

You seem a bit anxious and slightly disoriented, however. I suggest you lie down.

[Zodiak]

44. mntsnake, you have become a disruptor

This is a right-wing talking point, and it has no basis in truth (mostly because it is a right-wing talking point). And you defend it with insults. Out of all of the years you have railed against others on DU (rightly or wrongly) for using the same tactics, it saddens me to see you do the same.

I have finally decided to "hit the button".

[Lerkfish]

54. "become"?

that implies a previous condition that was different.

[mtnsnake]

56. haha, you're one to talk...

:eyes:

[mtnsnake]

55. "I have finally decided to "hit the button".

Knock yourself out, Zodiak. You have just become part of the same clique of narrow-minded faux Obama supporters who rail against anyone criticizing Obama for any reason or who rail against anyone who dares speak their mind. Join their club and petition the admins to get me banned until you're blue in the face if it makes you happy. You gave me a similar sermon just a few weeks ago from high atop your self-righteous pedestal, so I am not all that surprised that you would stoop to the same level as the other ones who go out of their way on these private little campaigns to get Hillary supporters thrown off the board. Whatever floats your boat...

[LSK]

31. 60 Democratic Senator will make the Repukes irrelevant

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

34. Been watching Fox News a bit much, have you?

[azmouse]

35. Why do you insist on 'throwing the entire Dem party under the bus'

with these posts?

You're pathetic.

[Window]

36. LMAO! You Hilly supporters are funny as hell.

:rofl:

[whatchamacallit]

37. What will keep my lunch off of my monitor after reading your posts?

:eyes: :puke:

[Hieronymus]

39. Hillary already threw the party under a bus.

[MadHound]

43. I'm more worried about Hillary continuing to throw the lives of innocents under the bus

After all, she has stated repeatedly that she will keep combat troop in Iraq, going on combat missions, for the foreseeable future, perhaps throughout her entire first term.

[JoFerret]

46. Forget the granny and bus crap

.

[TooBigaTent]

47. This has been my major problem with Obama all along. He has geared his campaign

to attract the pukes and indies while abandoning Democrats. I have never gotten any coherent response from the Obama supporters.

Neither have they answered the question of what President Obama would owe these people for their vote. What is he prepared to give away to keep his center-right coalition together?

I just do not trust someone who reaches out so much that he loses his footing.

[LulaMay]

48. He already has. Go to "Republicans for Obama", the group he was with yesterday. AGAINST WOMEN, GAY

RIGHTS, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.


THIS is what Democrats are willing to invite into our party now?

I thought we had a PLATFORM that is FOR women's rights, gay rights....now some people are willing to grease that platform under our feet to make room for these conservative pigs?


They can forget it. Obama can forget it.

[mtnsnake]

58. Obama is quickly becoming the Republicans' best friend, isn't he

Afterall, he's close to derailing the Republicans' worst nightmare, Hillary Rodham Clinton, the last person on earth that the Repukes want to see become president.

[cbayer]

51. Wow, so many haters in one room.

Too bad we can't just lock y'all in here for awhile and let you beat each other silly.

[fadedrose]

52. Not all Republicans...

Chuck Hagel and Ron Paul oppose the war. Some Senators disapprove of Bush's handling of it - Warner, Snow, Coleman, etc. They could be helpful in bringing the soldiers back home. Maybe socially we disagree but where we could be friendly, we should. It will be difficult for them to support McCain, I think, given his opinion on the war.

Hillary likes McCain on the war (and everything else?) better than she likes Obama, a Democrat, so who's throwing who under a bus?


A friendly hand should go out to Lincoln Chaffee and Susan Eisenhower. Lincoln's independent now and she is still repub supporting Obama.

[JTFrog]

53. Clicked the thread link and just got this:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

57. Obama was running so fast from Rev Wright that he ran into McCain who was running as fast from Bush.

[dailykoff]

59. Just the mean old racists.

Get used to the taste of asphalt. :hi:

[Warren Stupidity]

61. Another Clinton supporter goes to the rightwing talking points.

Congratulations.

[Windex]

65. go ahead and slap me

I crossed over. In my defense, I have voted more democrat than republican in my life and left when the extreme wing of the democratic party took over. I felt Obama's invitation, I want him to deal with NAFTA and get us out of the War. McCain promises more War and will continue the Bush's failing free trade policies.

A while back I posted a link to a picture of a little boy. He looked to be around six years old. He was dressed in a Sunday suit, standing very reverent and still while being presented a folded American flag. His dad had been killed. He was trying to be brave but you could see how close he was to bursting into tears. This is what is most important this election!

[ecstatic]

66. What will keep Clinton from throwing Democrats under the bus like she did to Chelsea?

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno." - McCain aka the Clintons Best friend

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

Hillary Clinton and John McCain are very close, Bill Clinton says. (CNN) -- If Hillary Clinton and John McCain become their party's presidential nominees, the general election race is likely to be a love-fest. ...



Not to mention, how Bill Clinton threw his wife and Chelsea under the bus by getting blowjobs in the Oval Office while his wife and young daughter were in the next room.

[citizen snips]

69. What did Obama do to his Granny?