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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:51 PM
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the documents make clear that at moments of major crisis, Clinton was often busy with her own agenda
"They do not list her as attending National Security Council meetings or joining briefings in the Situation Room. She did not have a national security clearance. And the documents make clear that at moments of major crisis, Clinton was often busy with her own agenda."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/20/AR2008032003771.html


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:54 PM
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1. She was a typical First Lady, most of the time--for whatever that's worth.
People will have to decide for themselves if Laura Bush or Babs Bush or Nancy Reagan were also more qualified to run for President because of their time in the WH.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:56 PM
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2. Exactly
NOT a co-President x(
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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4. Nancy Reagan was all about service.
Mostly in the back seat of a Buick convertible running up and down the Pacific Coast Highway.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:44 PM
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10. You Know This How?
Did she "service" you?

She's an old woman and her husband is dead. Do you think she deserves it because she's a Republican?

Telling your own tall tales is one thing; this is another, and I've read you saying it at least three times. Stop repeating a potential libel.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:17 PM
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11. Hey...
I was told this by Peter Lawford and by no lesser mortal than our late, great Friend.

Ain't no libel and that old woman is a Harridan.

And I will never let up.

You should know that by now.

Tom
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:03 PM
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3. Why did so many perpetuate the HRC myth in the media? To set Clinton2 in place to protect Bush2
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:04 PM by blm
into the next decade the same way Bill did for Poppy Bush throughout the 90s?

How obvious does it have to get?
http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:06 PM
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5. Different dogs, same handlers.
Obvious doesn't count anymore, blm.

Welcome to America the Blind.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:07 PM
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6. From the same article....
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:10 PM by uberblonde
Funny, how she was attacked by the media, the Democrats and the Republicans as playing too large a role in her husband's administration... and now the same people are saying she played no role at all! How funny is that?

Yet she lived through those episodes with a vantage point few get. "I would not say she was sitting there planning cruise missile attacks," said former White House press secretary Michael McCurry, who supports her candidacy. "But you're there and you see and you understand the requirements of leadership. . . . Having lived through it even as a spouse, you absorb a lot."

And while it does not equate to brokering deals, her travel through 82 countries certainly exposed her to more of the world and its leaders than did cutting ribbons as a state senator in Chicago. She was considered one of the administration's top surrogates and she devoted enormous energy to particular interests, such as women's issues, education, health care and international development.

When she took trips abroad, the first lady's office checked in with the NSC to see what sorts of messages she could carry, former officials said. She was a quick study. "What you need . . . is the nuance about the politics of the situation, what is the psychology of the people you're going to meet and that sort of thing," said former deputy national security adviser Mara E. Rudman, who advises her now.

The Northern Ireland episode captures the complexity. Several major players have said she was hardly instrumental in forging peace in 1998. But James B. Steinberg, then deputy national security adviser, said she was part of multifaceted strategy that included reaching out to women's leaders in Northern Ireland to help end the decades-old conflict. "She wasn't the only one," he said. "But I think her role and the obvious personal stake . . . were significant. You can't parse out each contribution."


Yeah, judging people is pretty important, too. Obama thought Tony Rezko was a good guy.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:23 PM
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8. Sorry, can't buy it
Her experience as First Lady qualifies her to be a First Lady. I've said it before: if I'm married to a surgeon, and based on that experience, do you really want ME to take out your gall bladder?
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:11 PM
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7. Could that be because it was Bill's job and not hers? n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:25 PM
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9. Yes, she was not 'President in training' for those eight years n/t
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