DU just got slammed on Stephanie Miller for trying to paint her

[Nitrogenica]

and Olbermann and others as irrational Hillary haters.

Great job you bunch of children, way to go.

[olkaz]

1. Stephanie doesn't really take any crap.

Is this the second time she's mentioned this sort of thing?

I gotta admit though, people going after our most treasured progressive voices has to sound an alarm.

[Auntie Bush]

2. self delete

[slick8790]

3. Well, I suppose that happens when you have 20% of the people making 80% of the noise.

Annoying that a few hillbots could give us all a bad rap.

[Texas Hill Country]

4. PLEASE, you gotta be kidding... Obama supporters here make the majority of the noise.

[slick8790]

10. Perhaps I phrased that wrong.

There's probably about equal anti-hillary and anti-obama threads, i'll give you that. But proportionally, based on how many supporters of each we have, hillary supporters are much louder.

[Hugabear]

27. Lol, and it's obviously those that Stephanie Miller was talking about, right?

Hmmmm....

Who are the ones who have been eviscerating KO lately here on DU? How many anti-KO threads have been started by Hillary supporters?

[Pringles]

15. Get over yourself.

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[Skidmore]

39. Hi, Binka.

Haven't seen you around much. Sorry to interrupt such a sweet rejoinder, but just wanted to say "Hi" and ask how your son is faring now.

[Lochloosa]

43. Potato Chip....

:spray:

Thanks Binka, I needed to clean my monitor.

[tridim]

41. I'd say it's more like 2% making 99% of the noise.

I can count the worst offenders on one hand. We all know who they are.

[JoFerret]

59. Get real

Clearly you are part of the problem if you don't see the fact that there are irrational and hate-filled posters all over the spectrum. Arguably more on the Obama side also. But I don't hate data on that. Just a perception which could be false.

[niceypoo]

5. Their own obsession earned them that distinction...

though she has toned it down a bit lately, obviously someone at Air America has told them to knock off the negativity.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

17. She's not with Air America.

[olkaz]

22. She fills in ALL the time, so she really kinda is.

She filled in for Thom Hartmann most of last week while he was in Sudan (Darfur).

[Gidney N Cloyd]

26. No, her show's really kinda syndicated by Jones Radio Network.

[immoderate]

45. Laura Flanders filled in for Tom, among others.

Steph was doing her own show, when not off.

--IMM

[olkaz]

63. I mixed them up. n/m

[WolverineDG]

71. um, no she didn't

I think his show was covered for at least 2 days by Laura Flanders, but Steph was on vacation last week so it definitely was not her. Nice try! BTW, she's part of the Jones Radio Network, not AAR.

dg

[PatGund]

37. Problem with that...

Stephanie Miller (along with Ed Schultz) are Jones Radio Network, not Air America.

[rug]

6. Did she object to the irrational part or the hate part?

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[meow mix]

8. Stephanie Miller! its only a few paid Hillary trolls! dont listen to them

they dont even come close to representing the views of the vast majority on DU.
plz dont pay them any attention.

[ronnykmarshall]

47. WHAT?

Are we back to the paid shit again?

Newsflash, I've spoken up about Stephanie's anti-Clinton bias MANY times. So where's my fucking check?

[Hoof Hearted]

9. Did she cry?

[Upton]

16. No, but Hillary did just before NH

she probably will again when she loses the nomination. A president needs to be made of sterner stuff.

[rodeodance]

20. your post shows you IMMATURITY. for all of us to see.Keep it up

[SoCalDem]

24. note the date..'07... the tears tactic has been known about for a long time

[SammyWinstonJack]

62. Brilliant!

:eyes:

[Binka]

38. Like Saggy Jowls Hillary? Sniff Sniff I Am Human Watch Me Cry.

Wouldn't cry when Bill humiliated her but cried in NH because she was losing. Piece of crap that she is.

[ronnykmarshall]

50. And DU admins show their bias as well

Calling Hillary a piece of crap?

Classy.

[blogslut]

11. Well

I love Stephanie. I do wish she would take the time to see that those painting her with that brush are only a small portion of DU.

[niceypoo]

13. She painted herself with it...

She went negative on Obama's behalf for a couple months...

Let her cry about it, she made her own bed

[PatGund]

29. She did??

She's defended Sen. Clinton on TV more than once, has said she will vote for Sen. Clinton if she's the nominee, and said that either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama would be a great choice for president.

What she's decried as been the tactics that Sen. Clinton's campaign have used. Even there, she's given Sen. Clinton the benefit of a doubt more than once and stated she feels that Sen. Clinton may be getting bad advice.

Hardly "going negative". Unless you define "going negative" as "anything other than total, non-critical and non-judgemental absolute support of Sen. Clinton"

[Occam Bandage]

12. Someone outside of DU calling DU a pit of loonies? There's a first.

For today, at least.

[Upton]

14. Go Stephanie!

[rodeodance]

18. ha ha Steph---you dish out the Bull on Hillary and you expect 'nice"?--what a cry baby

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[jonnyblitz]

19. who THE FUCK cares what she or any other radio talk show

ASSHOLE says?! don't be such a fucking pathetic IDIOT.

[SunsetDreams]

21. Way to go Stephanie!!!

[publicatlarge]

25. Did Miller mention the DU by name?

or, what? It is important to get the facts.

Thanks

[rinsd]

28. Stephanie Miller cares what this board says?

How sad for her....

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. Miller and Shultz are one giant Obama commercial complete

with distortions and constant Clinton attacks. They are not unbiased and I do not see them as helping the democratic cause.

Shultz actually got on Tweety's show and compared Clinton to a baby killer and to Hitler.

Miller and Shultz are doing hit jobs on Clinton under the guise of "progressive."

I have not ever called them "haters" but they sure are attack Clinton with distortions.

[Qanisqineq]

31. I used to love Stephanie Miller

but then her show began to sound like a 3-hour-long infomercial for Obama. When she was blaming Hillary for the photo of Obama in traditional clothes but failing to mention the source was Drudge ('cuz he's just so reliable) or that the photo was already out there weeks before that -- I turned her off for good.

[Maribelle]

32. I would take it a step further ....

Stephanie and Olbermann are obsessed illogical, unreasonable, foolish, ridiculous, absurd, silly, unfounded, senseless, groundless, unsound, baseless, and nonsensical Hillary haters.

:evilgrin:

[Metric System]

33. First of all, who is Stephanie Miller? Don't bother answering, I don't care. Secondly, what kind of

person takes issue with what's posted on message boards, other than Bill O'Reilly?

[here_is_to_hope]

49. You. n fucking t

[NNN0LHI]

34. Any word on what Rush has to say?

[meow mix]

35. Good Job Hillary, any press DU ever gets is negative thanks to her.

:mad:
so sick of that. bad enough with Rush attacking us constantly

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Oh so it Hillary's fault.

How fucking predictable.

FYI - Stephanie has mentioned DU many times. I even started a thread for her when her dog Chester died and she was so sad. I printed the thread out and gave it to her when I met her that weekend.

So NO the evil Hillary isn't destroying DU.

[Cass]

40. Who gives a shit what she thinks.

Why should any of us give a damn if she approves or not? She needs to get over herself.

[mzmolly]

42. DU is a place of extreme brilliance and extreme ignorance.

Both qualities are demonstrated here daily. ;)

[Jamastiene]

68. Both are demonstrated to the extreme, at that. n/t

[bridgit]

44. Great, so 'momma' now becomes Mommy Dearest...

And the yuks just keep on coming :eyes:

[Dinger]

46. I Wouldn't Use "irrational Hillary Haters,"

They can't actually endorse anyone, so they give Obama a de facto endorsement.
I don't think either hates Hillary, but their bias is rather transparent.

[progressoid]

48. Good God - even this thread is pathetic.

Steph is one of the good guys....err...gals.

Time for a DU time-out. Turn on some Yanni. Drink some chamomile. Relieve some stress & become one with nature (don't forget "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down")

[LisaM]

51. Then maybe she shouldn't ACT like an irrational Hillary hater

She's marginalized (and lost) a good chunk of her audience.

While I would prefer neutrality on the Democratic primaries from a talk show host, I'm clearly not going to get it from her. It all started with the Oprah fundraiser nonsense. She had to pay a huge amount of money to go, received some sort of written orders telling her what to wear, and couldn't wear shoes on Oprah's lawn. None of that apparently raised an alert with her. She seems also to have been instructed not to tell what went on at that fundraiser, because we heard plenty ahead of time, and precious little afterwards.

We all have the right to support whom we choose. But I, as a person who enjoys progressive media, do not have to listen to someone who wants to split the progressive audience. None of them gave Edwards the time of day. Once his candidacy was finished, they seemed to start moving in on Hillary.

I'm tired of having my judgement questioned and I've had enough of Stephanie Miller. Since this place is at least 75% an Obama lovefest, the fact that she has somehow determined it's not says a lot about her.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. I miss Momma actually.

I just can stomach listening to three hours of Hillary attacks.

Maybe after the primary is over and the nomination is settled I'll start listening again. But for now, it's all about dusting off my CD collection.

[LisaM]

55. Agreed.

The fact that she would come here, find posts to mock, and then go on air with it, shows me that she chooses not to have me as a listener. And I used to LOVE listening to her before work.

Now I listen to NPR, which is much more soothing.

[JuniperLea]

64. Me too...

She attacks Hillary in the same breath that she chides people for attacking Obama, and she just doesn't see it in herself. So sad to hear her be so whiny. I miss the old Steph.

[LulaMay]

66. Precisely.

[WolverineDG]

73. Puh freakin' leeze

Stephanie has ALWAYS said she will support Hillary if she gets the nomination. But I suppose the Hillary camp doesn't want to accept the fact that this is a democracy & in a democracy, we get a CHOICE!

dg

[PatGund]

76. As near as I can tell....

....anything other than total, non-critical and non-judgemental absolute support of Sen. Clinton is being a "Hillary-Hater" in the eyes of some.

How DARE someone have an opinion!

But yes, Stephanie has said many, many, many times that she will support Sen. Clinton if she gets the nomination, and that both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama would be a wonderful president. But to some, that's not enough. She's not a supporter of Sen. Clinton right now, therefore she must be marginalized and demonized.

[PatGund]

75. Do you actually LISTEN to her??

Or just spout off talking points??

Ms. Miller has defended Sen. Clinton on TV more than once, has said she will vote for Sen. Clinton if she's the nominee, and said that either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama would be a great choice for president.

Yes, she supports Obama. But she's also defended Clinton.

[Chalco]

54. ummm...I personally used to listen to Stephanie everyday, but

once she endorsed Obama I stopped listening because it felt like she wasn't able to take in anything that might contradict what she thought.

Randi Rhodes recently did the same thing and I have stopped listening to her as well.

[ronnykmarshall]

61. I'm with ya on both.

Love them both too. But I can't stomach it anymore.

Oh .... and before some asshole does the "sticking fingers in ears .... na! na! na! I can't hear you" shit or "you just don't want to hear the 'truth'" line ... I don't watch Fox News or listen to Rush either. My choice, I don't want to listen to an endless stream of my candidate being attacked, that my business.

[Basement Beat]

56. I personally love Stephanie. :) n/t

[Lerkfish]

57. well, she's right. I, for one defended both her and olberman here

but the fact is this place is infested.

[Az_lefty]

58. wake up Steph, it's the "Cult of Clinton" your having a problem with...

[NashVegas]

60. So What?

It's no secret that the media has behaved and is behaving shamefully where the Hillary Clinton campaign is concerned, and are openly pushing Barack Obama.

These over-puffed Heathers don't give a flying fuck about the public interest, necessity, and convenience, and in a world where the Fairness Doctrine had never never over-turned, wouldn't have jobs.

[LulaMay]

65. They are. My fmaily and I were fans, but they became so ludicrously biased. VERY disappointing.

for the record, I've never written anything about Miller on here. KO, yes, along with countless others.

His sputtering last night charging Hillary with some sinister role in the passport breech was beyond the pale.

I am done with him forever.

[Medusa]

67. I have news for you. I don't give a fuck what Stephanie Miller thinks

Does she think? I find her to be incredibly annoying and ill-informed as a general rule.

[knixphan]

69. Some of us love ya, mama.

[VeraAgnes]

70. That's why I admire DU.

It is not a partisan website/discussion board. A discussion on how valued listeners disagree with the radio talk host agenda is essential for free speech zones such as DU.
You apparently are unhappy...please make notation to the fact.... you also can voice a dissenting opinion freely, as you have done. See it works!

[WolverineDG]

72. Actually she was re-reading bvar's post from a week or so ago

which was tongue-in-cheek to begin with (made the DUzys, so if you want to read it, check out JeffR's journal).

dg

[bleever]

74. Severe irony deficiency

going around here!