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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:57 PM
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Can we all agree on this?
If Obama loses, at least in part, due to racism -- we all lose.

If Clinton loses, at least in part, due to sexism -- we all lose.

And so -- even for the sake of our own candidate, whoever that may be -- we shouldn't be applauding the tactics of the racists or sexists who would derail either candidacy.


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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:58 PM
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1. racism much bigger factor in this race.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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3. You're not addressing the question I asked. n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:01 PM
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9. Only because it has been made so.
If the RW thought they would have an easier time beating Barack, Limbaugh would be shilling for him and not Hillary - and we'd be hearing loads of sexist shit coming from the RW media.

The difference is I don't think Barack would be participating in it.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:58 PM
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2. I agree!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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4. YES
:thumbsup:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:59 PM
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5. Sorry pnwmom. Reason and diplomacy don't seem to play well in this forum....
.... The armpit that it is.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:00 PM
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6. Is that why my head is getting so bruised
from knocking against the wall?

:shrug:
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:00 PM
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7. Agreed. nt
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:01 PM
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8. Well, one will win and one will lose and either racism or sexism will play some part in it
this seems defeatist to me
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:02 PM
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10. That doesn't mean we should be a part of supporting the racism or sexism
with our own words and actions.

We should be leaving that to the Freepers, shouldn't we?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:04 PM
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11. Yes...I can agree with that. nt
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:13 PM
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12. No we can't, if Hillary loses it will be because of her republican tactics and
her win at any cost attitude.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:50 PM
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17. I said, "at least in part." You're saying that sexism isn't at all a factor
in how she's treated in the media?


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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:19 PM
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13. I do agree.
And I don't often agree with your posts.

That said - I am sure we strongly disagree on what constitutes "racism" or "sexism". (The world has not gone crazy after all - we still don't agree on much! ;) )
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:39 PM
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14. I agree!
and I will be a little sad either way.
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:41 PM
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15. I agree
We need to make sure that Hillarack Clinbama is still a functioning candidate come November.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:52 PM
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18. Exactly.
And we need to make sure that women and gays and people of all races are NOT discouraged from running for office.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:44 PM
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16. I agree...
We Democrats need to stick together on this.

Racism and Sexism are just flat out wrong!
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