It's disgusting to watch the Obama camp piggyback on the right-wing Judicial Watch's witch hunt

[bigtree]

Judicial Watch, whose past leader, Larry Klayman, dragged the nation into the impeachment of Bil Clinton by pressing for information about a private affair in a case which would later be thrown out of court, is behind the pressure to release the records of the Clinton administration.

Much like their exploitation of Paula Jones in an effort to disrupt and unseat our Democratic, two-term presidency, Judicial Watch is hoping to disrupt our Democratic primary.

As evidenced by the corporate media's willingness to immediately seize on lurid details in the released documents about the proximity of Mrs. Clinton to her husband during his affair, it should be clear to everyone in our party that attacks leveraged off of the efforts of Judicial Watch risk complicity in the same types of inevitable smears and half-truths which characterized the entire right-wing campaign which exploited Vince Foster's suicide to 'investigate' a failed land deal, resulting in an impeachment over a lie about an affair.

The politics of all of that couldn't be more sleazy. But, some are content to roll around in the waste that slime like Judicial Watch and its leadership leave behind in the wake of their slippery politics.

Moreover, it's the Obama camp, who now wants our sympathy against these half-truths and innuendo, who can't seem to get enough of the present line of bull which has accompanied the release of the summary outline which comprises the First Lady's official schedule. It's not a complete record of Hillary Clinton's work or involvement, but already, it's being used to draw broad conclusions about her conduct and actions without taking into account the myriads of other detailed accounts of Hillary Clinton's record and experiences.

But, if it floats your boat to hang with slime like Judicial Watch and feed off of whatever they dig up and throw out, just to get a leg up on your political opposition, have at it. Don't come crying when Obama's on their agenda.



Some Judicial Watch facts:


In all, between 1997 and 2002, Judicial Watch received $7,069,500 (unadjusted for inflation) in 19 grants from a handful of foundations including. The bulk of this funding came from just three foundations - the Sarah Scaife Foundation, The Carthage Foundation and the John M. Olin Foundation, Inc

The Scaife Foundations consist of the Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation, the Carthage Foundation, the Allegheny Foundation and the Scaife Family Foundation. All four have been heavily involved in financing conservative causes under the direction of reclusive billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Judicial_Watch

Richard Mellon Scaife has been a key figure in conservative politics since the 1960s. Called by liberal pundit James Carville in 1999 “the archconservative godfather in a heavily funded war against Clinton,” Scaife has helped bankroll the modern conservative movement.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/395.html


from their website: http://www.judicialwatch.org/hillarywatch.shtml

The purpose of “Hillary Watch” is to closely monitor Hillary Clinton activities and filings for any irregularities and reporting violations. Judicial Watch will take action should any problems be discovered. (Judicial Watch is also monitoring other presidential candidates with ethical issues, including Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Rudolph Giuliani, and John McCain.)


JW Open Records Lawsuits in Pursuit of Hillary Clinton's White House Records

* Judicial Watch v. U.S. National Archives and Records Administration- JW lawsuit to obtain records of the Task Force on National Heath Care Reform chaired by former First Lady (now Senator) Hillary Rodham Clinton."

* Judicial Watch v. U.S. National Archives and Records Administration - JW lawsuit to obtain Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s official calendar, schedule, and day planner, and related documents from her tenure as First Lady.

[geek tragedy]

1. Those are official US government documents, not

Judicial Watch documents.

Nice try, but no cigar.

[bigtree]

2. where are the Bush's records?

This is a political effort to smear the Clintons and disrupt the campaign.

Where are Obama's state records?

[Tempest]

14. Everything is a smear campaign or a fishing expedition to the Clinton supporters

Clinton opened up this can of worms by claiming she had experience. It shouldn't have taken JW to ask for them, Clinton should have provided them.

[bigtree]

21. is this a smear?

3/19/2008
Clinton Campaign Calls on Senator Obama to Release State Records

Campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson issued the following statement on a conference call earlier this afternoon:

"11,000 pages of the former First Lady’s schedules are now part of the public record and I believe that is approximately 11,000 more documents than the Obama campaign has released up until this point relating to any part of his service especially as a State Senator.

"When these documents were released and we had a chance to look at them online, we put out a statement about them and in that statement we called on Senator Obama again to release relevant documents and information from his tenure in the State Senate relating to his schedule, to memos, to letters that he may have written to state agencies perhaps on behalf of Mr. Rezko or others.

"We’ve heard different answers from Senator Obama about this when asked about it. At one point he said he had documents, another point he said he did not have documents. Apparently he left his office with nothing.

"But we have 11,000 documents in the public record as of today. Senator Clinton has, as many of you know, been the subject of some 60 books. She is in many respects an open book. Senator Obama on the other hand has not been forthcoming with critical information about his tenure. From what I understand Chicago newspapers have multiple FOIA requests into state agencies in Illinois for basic information about Senator Obama’s correspondence with them. Senator Obama should do everything he can to release that information, to speed up that process in Illinois. If he has the letters that he wrote and the responses that he received, which he may well, he should just go ahead and release them, he doesn’t have to wait until the FOIA request has run its course.

"There is much that Senator Obama can do on the subject of disclosure if he chooses to make this an issue as he has. I think in many respects he has gotten a free ride on this but there is a voluminous amount of information that presumably should be available relating to his tenure in the State Senate that he could release and make available at any time since he thinks that this is so important. I would again call on him to do so."


The campaign’s statement on the release of Hillary’s Clinton’s Schedules today by the National Archives can be found here: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6618

[Tempest]

53. You're the one making the claim it's a smear campaign

And here you are posting a release of Clinton making the same request of Obama.

You're being a hypocrite.

[bigtree]

60. I personally couldn't care less. Let's get that clear right here.

I want this campaign to be fought on the issues, but the Obama camp jumped right on the release to claim some lie by Clinton they had deduced from the summary outline of part of Clinton's schedule, which comprises the official record. If Obama thinks this is a way to fight this campaign then he should make his own records available. The hypocrisy isn't on me, wishing none of this was inserted in the middle of our primary. It's on the Obama camp and their tactic of calling for transparency while covering his own government paper trail.

[Tempest]

63. For someone who couldn't care less

You are protesting quite loudly and frequently.

And you've yet to prove Obama's camp has anything to do with the JW request as you claimed.

[bigtree]

69. They used it today to conclude Clinton lied on NAFTA

Based on a record of two meetings with no transcript. All of the other exidence against their conclusion was thrown out the window by his campaign leadership to promote their new line that the reports show Clinton lied on NAFTA. What's next from the Obama campaign?

[Tempest]

73. So why won't Clinton release the WH records?

And prove she didn't lie?

[bigtree]

78. probably the same reason Obama's resisting the release of his own government paper trail.

[MagickMuffin]

82. JW is responsible for getting the secret Cheney Energy Meetings disclosed

Granted I wish they would have gotten more and maybe they will eventually. Time will tell.

[roguevalley]

106. agreed. they belong to us. Judicial watch is the key to get them

and see them. I am sick of fuckers locking their stuff up. Bush does it and now they have.

[Bigleaf]

3. By the way, when she started spouting off that she had this wealth of experience, along with her pal

McCain, but Obama had none, well she opened herself up to having these records released to see if they in any way backed up her claims.

[bigtree]

6. so it's a political fishing expedition?

led by the right-wing? She opened herself up to that?

Where are Obama's state records? Hasn't he claimed that tenure as his experience?

[rodeodance]

39. last I heard.BO can't find them.

[Bigleaf]

41. She's the one running on experience.

[rox63]

4. The Obama campaign has no involvement in the Judicial Watch suit n/t

[bigtree]

8. no, they just piggyback off of the results

and misrepresent them to boot

[rox63]

32. Please explain how this "piggybacking" supposedly works?

Then can you ask HRC to release her tax returns from last year? Obama has, why can't she?

[bigtree]

37. six years of tax returns already released by the Clintons to ONE year's released from Obama

he's behind.

[rox63]

56. Then why the problem with one more?

Obama's net worth didn't increase by multi-millions in a very short time, like the Clintons' did.

[Tempest]

58. You're coming across as a hypocrite

You're complaining about JW requesting Clinton's records because she hasn't released them at the same time you're complaining about Obama not releasing his.

Pick one side or the other, don't keep jumping over the fence.

[bigtree]

61. Oh wait, you're spamming this

reply #60

sheesh.

[Tempest]

65. I had to make sure you would see it

Considering the number of posts you've made as someone who couldn't care less.

[bigtree]

66. I defend my posts. That's a virtue here.

[Tempest]

68. You defend your posts

By claiming you couldn't care less.

:rofl:

[bigtree]

70. some argument you have there. divert, distract, change the subject

[Melinda]

89. The Clintons have released 6 years of tax returns? LINK PLEASE!!!

Please!! PS: Specifically, 2000-07, spanks!

[MagickMuffin]

93. If she has released her tax returns for the past six years, then how can we view them

Since you seem to know so much about them being released then I would like to see them.

So, Where do I need to go to research them?.?.?

[onenote]

102. and which six years would that be?

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Judicial Watch also pressed Cheney to release energy task force docs

some of which are up on their website, showing oil maps of Iraq and potential suitors, from March 2001.

They may be right-leaning, but they have done some good as well.

[bigtree]

10. what are they looking for here? The one explanation was to verify claims of experience from Clinton

This is a political fishing expedition. It's a unilateral one, at that. Where are Obama's state records?

[havocmom]

7. disgusting to see supporters of a DEM candidate using so many neocon tactics in this campaign

Guilt by vague association

Race baiting

Making damaging statements then trying to deny responsibility for making them

Saying hateful things, then when called on it, using the lame Limbaugh tactic of claiming it was just a joke

We have been treated to all this disgusting crap since Senator Obama dared to stand up and challenge the ineveitable candidate.

[jgraz]

9. What's this? A Hillary supporter crying about right wing sources?

:rofl:

Tell me, have you posted similar chastisements against the ACTUAL RIGHT WING SWILL your compatriots have been linking to? Any at all?

[bigtree]

Is that all you have as a defense of appropriating right-wing garbage hunts? Someone else did it?

pathetic.

[jgraz]

22. Looks like that "garbage hunt" is turning up some pretty good stuff from the people's records

The difference? Hillary's records are real, undeniable fact. The Right-Wing bullshit that Hillary supporters are spewing is provable falsehood and propaganda.

So let's turn it around: you are faced with PROOF that your candidate lied about NAFTA and all you have is a defense that you don't like the people who proved it?

Now who's pathetic?

[bigtree]

proof that she attended a meeting? no transcript? Two unnamed sources

cited in an article from Sirota? That's proof??? I don't want to live in a land where that's the standard of proof.

[jgraz]

36. You're avoiding the question. Why are you bothered by the release of public records?

They're PUBLIC RECORDS. Anyone has access to them. This is not exactly a right-wing hit piece.

[bigtree]

40. where are Obama's

where's the equity of concern from his camp?

[jgraz]

75. Where are Obama's ... what? His records as First Lady?

[bigtree]

80. his records from his tenure in state government.

. . . that he's basing his claims of experience on. That's the way the Obama camp's argument goes.

so coy, so naive.

[jgraz]

83. What more do you want? He was a state senator.

They didn't keep the kind of records that the White House did. This was stupid when it came up in November and it's still stupid now.

[bigtree]

86. what's he hiding?

myopia

[jgraz]

104. He's certainly not hiding bribes for pardons or stealth lobbying for NAFTA

Can you say the same about Hillary?

[rodeodance]

105. What IS he hiding???

[jgraz]

71. Waitaminute -- you think the Clinton administration put her in a meeting to OPPOSE NAFTA?

Are you kidding me?

[bigtree]

76. what did she 'support'? You have NO idea, because the records say NOTHING about that.

But, we do have several other accounts from key players willing to put themselves ON THE RECORD who contradict Mr. Obama's campaign's charges today that she 'lied' about being opposed to the NAFTA effort.

[jgraz]

79. Avoiding the question: Is it credible that she was in that meeting to OPPOSE the admin's position?

Does that make ANY SENSE to you?

And as far as people going "on the record", there are several Clinton administration officials who have now been shown to be lying "on the record".

[merh]

11. LOL, the Judicial Watch is the group that uncovered Cheney's

Energy Task Force findings that showed how this admin wanted Iraq long before the 9/11 attack - they may be conservative group but their work has been bipartisan - corruption by either side should be a concern to all of us. Corruption and abuse of office shouldn't have a party affiliation and should never be defended.

[bigtree]

19. what 'corruption' is the target of this fishing expedition?

do you know?

[merh]

31. LOL - so it is a fishing expedition if they ask to review democratic

party members documents and/or dem administration documents, but it is legitimate concerns for functions of the government and to ward against abuse of office to review all others.

For the love of god, stop with the double standards.

Who is to say they find anything in HRC's records, they do have the right to them, she should have released them years ago.

[bigtree]

35. you're the one claiming some noble motive of a pursuit of corruption

where are Obama's state records?

[merh]

43. You are the one calling legitimate review of the people's documents

a "fishing expedition" - get a grip.

[bigtree]

46. Are you opposed to the immediate release of Obama's state government records?

this is the middle of a presidential campaign and balance would help. After all, he's the one complaining about transparency.

[merh]

57. yes

I'm for transparency.

I think HRC's records are long past due - wasn't it like 8 years ago she garnered her 8 years of experience as the first lady?

[blm]

12. Clintons didn't care about Whitewater - they knew it was cover for getting into Rose Law Firm

for the Bushies who needed Jackson Stephens files completely scrubbed, as he was the firm's biggest client, a longtime friend and ally of GHWBush's, and a named figure in BCCI especially as the man who BROUGHT that terrorist bank into this country.

You think Clintons didn't KNOW there would be a trade off for Stephens bankrolling their careers and underwriting Bill's primary campaign? You think they didn't stall and 'lose records' just so investigators could have extended access to all the files to protect Stephens and GHWBush and their financial dealings with Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, and other nations involved with illegal BCCI operations?

Are you of the belief that Stephens bankrolled Clintons careers because he is a patriot who wanted to form a more perfect union?

[bigtree]

17. I don't buy that. It's the same fantasy that Scaife likes to spread around

. . . as a distraction from the Bushes own complicity in their own crimes and abuses.

[blm]

42. Bushies biggest crimes were IN that BCCI report and its outstanding matters, and Stephens

was a central figure to that. You are inconsistent. You KNOW Bushies criminal agenda was in that report and that Stephens was a key operator in that agenda, but when it comes to his role in Clintons careers, all of a sudden, it is just mere coincidence to you.

You really think Bushies spent all those years dragging through the entire law firm looking for Whitewater records to use against Clintons, and DIDN'T scrub Stephens' BCCI dealings? And you really believe that Clintons didn't KNOW any of this? You do know that THEIR lawyers and representatives would have been allowed to observe the searches, don't you?

[bigtree]

44. not choosing to use his time pursuing these charges against the former administration

isn't the same as the complicity you charge. You still haven't shown any evidence beyond these strung-out relationships.

[blm]

52. Those relationships are NOT strung out they are DIRECT. You CALL it strung out to convince

yourself and others.

And how many times do you need to be reminded that a PRESIDENT doesn't HAVE to pursue the charges against the CORRUPTION, just cooperate with the investigations that were going on and still current and still requiring documents and access to documents.

Why do you pretend otherwise? Are you convincing others or yourself still?

[bigtree]

54. they are not 'direct' to your conclusions, and you know it

That's why this story has been festering for as long as it has without any significant interest from any but the most ardent Clinton opponents.

[blm]

59. Baloney - you know it. You read the list of outstanding matters and know damn well

that they are part of many of the last ten years' events and part of today's stories, too.

[bigtree]

64. and, you know well that I do not agree with the conclusions of those reports

[blm]

92. You don't believe BCCI's outstanding matters needed further scrutiny? Kerry made false conclusions?

What led you to YOUR conclusion that there were no outstanding matters?

Maybe if you explain how you came to your conclusion that there were no serious matters left outstanding then that may draw a clearer picture for the rest of us who believed Kerry's 5 1/2 year investigation was accurate in what it detailed and in what was still left that needed to be examined.

Gee - big - didn't know YOU knew so much about BCCI that you even questioned the findings of Kerry's report - and to BushInc's benefit, no less. Interesting turn of events. Doesn't even sound like you actually.

[Lucinda]

13. Actually, I have no problem with JW working for release of the docs

regardless of any skank factor that may hang over their activities. I also have no problem with people making use of the information.

The important thing, IMO, is to watch and see who tries to cherry-pick data to attempt to discredit Hillary and who uses them honestly. It will tell us a LOT about them.

I watched Dick Morris take a couple days of routine activity and state that was what every day was like for her. He already had less than zero credibility with me, so I didn't expect him to do anything else but lie. He certainly met my expectations.

[anigbrowl]

18. Well said. I too am OK with any FOIA requests

and also agree that the proof of the pudding is how the records are discussed and find their way into the campaign. For example, I would be angry and disappointed if the Obama campaign used them as an excuse to remind people about the Lewinsky scandal or suchlike. The media touched on that over the weekend (which is hardly surprising, as scandal is always a popular news item) but it remains to be seen if anyone will pick it up and run with it as a campaign issue. I hope not, as personally I think it has no bearing on this election and I never cared that much what Bill got up to on the side.

[stillcool]

15. Looks like Scaife and Clinton made up...

So Happy Together

Bill archenemy Richard Mellon Scaife now has 'admiration' for him. Huh?
Mark Hosenball
NEWSWEEK
Updated: 4:21 PM ET Nov 10, 2007
http://www.newsweek.com/id/69545/output/print

ill Clinton now finds himself the unlikeliest of Scaife heroes. Last month Ruddy posted a softball interview with Clinton on the Newsmax site (sample question: "What is the best thing about being an ex-president?"). A worshipful cover story followed in the current edition of the magazine. Clinton, it gushed, is "a political and cultural powerhouse" who is "part Merlin and part Midas—a politician with a magical touch."

What is going on here? Scaife declined to comment, but Ruddy tells NEWSWEEK he and Scaife believe Clinton's life since leaving office has been "very laudable," and that he is doing "very important work representing the country when the U.S. is widely resented in the world." He said they never suggested Clinton was involved in Foster's death, and insisted they were not among those hyping alleged Clinton sex scandals, though he acknowledged their work may have encouraged others.

Whatever the reasons for Scaife's change of heart, it's not hard to figure out why the Clintons would embrace a former nemesis. As they prepared for Hillary's presidential run, the Clintons made quiet attempts to disarm, or at least neutralize, some of their most vocal opponents. Last year Hillary accepted an offer from Rupert Murdoch (who always hedges his bets) to host a fund-raiser for her Senate campaign. The New York Times reported that the Clinton camp has also made efforts to open a line of communication to blogger Matt Drudge, who has served as a conduit for anti-Clinton GOP leaks.

Ruddy, who accompanied Scaife to the Clinton lunch, says the peacemaking meeting came about after former New York City mayor Ed Koch offered to put the two together. (Koch declined to comment.) Clinton, pouring on the charm, greeted Scaife like an old friend. "President Clinton believes in redemption and moving forward," says spokeswoman Jennifer Hanley. Ruddy says they talked about Clinton's charitable work and avoided opening old wounds. After receiving the full Bill treatment, Scaife left with a new outlook on the man he had once set out to crush. Scaife isn't ready to sign on to Hillary's campaign—he's still a Republican. But his lawyer, Yale Gutnick, says Bill Clinton and Richard Mellon Scaife are now members of a "mutual admiration society." Cue the apocalypse.
URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/69545

[bigtree]

16. looks like you are just the type of reader Newspeak counted on

. . . to spread their bullshit.

[stillcool]

29. Sorry. I didn't realize Newsweek...

was persona non grata here.

[babylonsister]

20. What's really disgusting is to find proof of how Clinton has lied time and

again. But best not go there. :eyes:

[bigtree]

23. if you call these summary records 'proof' you are lying

[EFerrari]

24. So, what you're saying is it's disgusting the way Obama supporters read the news. n/t

[blogslut]

25. I would gladly trade all of Hillary's first lady records

For the release of her tax forms.

[bigtree]

33. let's see, we have six years so far of the Clintons and ONE year of Obama's taxes released

looks like he's behind in your transparency game.

[blogslut]

45. Why not add one more year?

What's the harm? Why won't your candidate release her most recent tax forms? What is she hiding?

[bigtree]

47. what's Obama hiding in his state records?

see how that works?

[Melinda]

90. WOULD YOU PLEASE POST A LINK TO THE CLINTONS 6 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS, PLEASE!!

Cause my google search says otherwise... that no tax records have been released. Pretty please, with sugar on it?

Oh yeah, and to be clear... tax returns from 2000-06, thanks!

[burythehatchet]

96. Remember, the objective is to confuse, not illimuminate. The OP is a world class

expert at shoveling bullshit.

[Melinda]

97. Damn; I got all excited when I saw I had a reply. Thanks for that, but I am hopeful yet he'll...

come thru!!! :hi:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. yes it is!

[JuniperLea]

27. All y'all are nutty as bat shit...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5174270

[rodeodance]

28. K and R

[durrrty libby]

30. Is it more or less disgusting than to see American Democrats

promote the disenfranchisement of American voters?

These people are a disgrace to Democracy

Fidel Castro will welcome them with open arms.

[OzarkDem]

34. They're not Democrats, they're Obamacrats

I'd almost prefer to see them start their own party.

[Abacus]

38. The Monica stuff is lame

but she's based a significant portion of her platform (particularly recently) on NAFTA and foreign policy experience; those statements deserve to be "vetted" by an examination of the record. I'm honestly much more troubled by Hillary's consistent tendency toward secrecy - a concern reinforced by redactions and omissions within the records. Any single incident can be explained away as a national security concern or clerical error, but Senator Clinton has shown a clear pattern here. I'm somewhat surprised that she is getting essentially a free pass on this.

[Why Syzygy]

48. If it floats YOUR boat to condemn someone for what someone else said one time.

Poor poor pitiful mistreated Hillary :sob: Her sorry past is fair game. Everything she has done in her slimy past is fair game.

I've lost all patience with the Hillary lynch mob.

[bigtree]

51. I suppose you oppose her call today for Obama to release his state government records?

Clinton Campaign Calls on Senator Obama to Release State Records

Campaign Communications Director Howard Wolfson issued the following statement on a conference call earlier this afternoon:

"11,000 pages of the former First Lady’s schedules are now part of the public record and I believe that is approximately 11,000 more documents than the Obama campaign has released up until this point relating to any part of his service especially as a State Senator.

"When these documents were released and we had a chance to look at them online, we put out a statement about them and in that statement we called on Senator Obama again to release relevant documents and information from his tenure in the State Senate relating to his schedule, to memos, to letters that he may have written to state agencies perhaps on behalf of Mr. Rezko or others.

"We’ve heard different answers from Senator Obama about this when asked about it. At one point he said he had documents, another point he said he did not have documents. Apparently he left his office with nothing.

"But we have 11,000 documents in the public record as of today. Senator Clinton has, as many of you know, been the subject of some 60 books. She is in many respects an open book. Senator Obama on the other hand has not been forthcoming with critical information about his tenure. From what I understand Chicago newspapers have multiple FOIA requests into state agencies in Illinois for basic information about Senator Obama’s correspondence with them. Senator Obama should do everything he can to release that information, to speed up that process in Illinois. If he has the letters that he wrote and the responses that he received, which he may well, he should just go ahead and release them, he doesn’t have to wait until the FOIA request has run its course.

"There is much that Senator Obama can do on the subject of disclosure if he chooses to make this an issue as he has. I think in many respects he has gotten a free ride on this but there is a voluminous amount of information that presumably should be available relating to his tenure in the State Senate that he could release and make available at any time since he thinks that this is so important. I would again call on him to do so."

[Why Syzygy]

62. She has NO validity. Her requests are LAUGHABLE.

She is a liar and a ****. An open book? She is the sneakiest, lying-est, cheater (like her husband), duplicitous, ****.

I have lost all patience with Hillary and her lynch mob.

[bigtree]

72. but, why won't he release his own records if he believes hers are so important?

the 'lynching' is from his own camp on this. Nice race-baiting try.

[Why Syzygy]

98. The same could be said of HER. Why doesn't she if ....

I'll keep trying.

I'm fed up with the Hillary Lynch Mob.

[rodeodance]

55. "Don't come crying when Obama's on their agenda."

[Why Syzygy]

67. I'll do what I want.

As soon as Ms. McHillabee gets out of the way, we'll be ready to take it all on. Obama is a lot stronger than some think. Just get your **** out of the way so we can handle it.

[bigtree]

74. I won't be rolled over. Not by demagogues.

[Why Syzygy]

99. This has nothing to do with you. I'm sure no one is looking.

[rodeodance]

49. Thanks for your research on this issue Bigtree

[SaveOurDemocracy]

50. K&R n/t

[truebrit71]

77. BTW...where ARE her tax returns?

..what is she hiding?

[bigtree]

81. why has Obama only released ONE year of taxes to her SIX which are now in public domain?

[truebrit71]

84. Where are her 2006 tax returns like the ones Obama has released?

Do we need to send someone in a chicken suit to her office like she did to Lazio?

WHAT IS SHE HIDING?

[bigtree]

87. what's Obama hiding??!!!

sheesh.

[truebrit71]

88. Where are her 2006 tax returns....what is she lying about or covering up?

...it MUST be bad if she is STILL refusing to come clean and be open and honest with us...

[Melinda]

91. 20 years are in the public domain, but not the ones from 2000-2007

Can you prove me wrong? I want you to, I really do. Please provide a link, thanks.

[Bonobo]

101. Why do you keep dodging the tax return question, Big Tree?

Why don't you make like a big tree and..."leaf"?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

85. I'd happily swap Clinton's phone logs for Cheney's missing 3 million e-mails

[mrJJ]

94. Who scrubbed the data?

FINAL REPORT of the COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
SENATE Rept. 105-167 - 105th Congress 2d Session - March 10, 1998

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1998_rpt/sgo-sir/2-20.htm

Cross reference date April 4, 1996

http://www.judicialwatch.org/cl-hrc-calendars

I can't the find meeting in HRC's release... Not relevant I guess

on April 4 with Harold
Ickes, White House Deputy Chief of Staff and the White House
supervisor of the President's re-election effort, and Mrs.
Clinton to discuss the Trie-related contributions to the Trust.
Cardozo began the meeting by telling the First Lady that
someone from Arkansas had delivered a large number of checks to
the Trust and asked her to guess who it was. When she failed to
do so, Cardozo mentioned the name Charlie Trie. Mrs. Clinton
hesitated, then recalled him as the owner of a restaurant in
Little Rock frequented by then Governor Clinton.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

95. Politicians who don't like scrutiny should take up a different line of work.

They spend a good deal of time trying to get in the spotlight and then whine about being in the spotlight.

My heart bleeds for the poor overpaid, underworked, egomaniacs.

[SeaLyons]

100. Thanks Bigtree

thanks for the post....

Go Hillary!!

[onenote]

103. so which six years of tax returns has hrc released? Links?

The silence is DEAFENING.....