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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:02 PM
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Poll question: Obama supporters- Do you really believe that Bill was a rapist?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:05 PM
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1. Where did this come from?
I haven'theard that Obama supporters have taken up that charge.:shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:37 PM
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22. At least one did on here this morning
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 PM
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25. So let's do a poll about one idiotic post...I get it
:freak:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:44 PM
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33. I was just answering a question
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:36 PM
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60. Lirwin has the mock outrage thing down pat.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:02 PM
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56. Just a Clinton supporter making shit up....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:04 PM by BlooInBloo
... hahahaha - now not only are all black folks to be asked if they agree with what one black guy thinks, but anyone who supports a black guy is to be vetted about what one supporter says.

DUers slay me.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:06 PM
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2. No..What a silly question
.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:06 PM
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3. Never even heard that accusation before
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:07 PM
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4. It was one of many lies tossed at him by the RW media in the 90s. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:12 PM
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13. A woman alleged on Dateline in 1998 he raped her then recanted
From wiki:

Five people have stated that Broaddrick told them about a rape shortly after it allegedly occurred: two of these may have a grudge against Clinton for commuting the sentence of the man who killed their father, and a third is Broaddrick's current husband, who was involved in an extramarital affair with her at the time. Broaddrick did not tell her then-husband of the alleged assault at the time.

Broaddrick said she does not remember on what date she was allegedly raped. She did supply the name of the hotel (Camelot) and the reason she was visiting Little Rock (a nursing home seminar) when the incident allegedly occurred. NBC News found that a nursing conference was held in the Camelot Hotel on April 25, 1978. The hotel was located in the state capitol where news reports indicate Clinton was that day and that he had no known official commitments that morning. The Clinton White House declined to release his official schedule for the date. Three weeks after this date, Broaddrick attended a Clinton fundraiser. According to the The Wall Street Journal (February 19, 1999, p. A18), "Her friend Norma Rogers, a nurse who had accompanied her on the trip," found Broaddrick distraught shortly after the time of the alleged attack.


So, like most rape accusations it becomes a pretty ugly he-said/she-said, with the added fog of 20 years having passed.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:08 PM
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5. its a reference to Newsmax... the poster is trying to discredit source for some Wright stuff.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:09 PM
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6. What. The hell. Are you talking about?
No. Of course not.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 PM
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26. Check PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:09 PM
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7. I take him at his word that he's not.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:39 PM
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27. as far as I know
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:10 PM
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8. No, I think his paramours were willing
and numerous
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:55 PM
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37. just as a general heads up on that thought...
rape has got nothing to do with sex or how many willing women a man who does rape, can seduce in the normal sexual ways.

rape is about violence and power.

my has got nothing to do with Clinton or the charges against him, or whether I believe or disbelieve those accusations.


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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:10 PM
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9. That has been in FReeperville for ages. Blatantly made up..n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:10 PM
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10. hell no.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:12 PM
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11. I don't know. He certainly seemed to use and discard women, but
I'm not prepared to say he was a criminal, or anything other than a serial adulterer, without proof.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:12 PM
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12. WTF?
One person makes one comment and now we're all guilty?

Bite me.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:13 PM
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14. What is this about? I'm an Obama supporter and think this is ridiculous.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:14 PM
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16. reference to Newsmax to discredit one of the sources on Wright.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:13 PM
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15. nope.. just a charismatic horny guy,,with loads of power
the greatest aphrodisiac
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:17 PM
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17. Absolutely not.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:18 PM
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18. or at the least a predator of women
there's tons of stories of Bill having his secret service men, (and state troopers when he was gov)
of inviting women to his hotel room when at out of town events.

One of my family members had a friend relate that she was approached by Bill's ss men at one such event.

Although his policies were better than the right wingers to a degree, he was shabby in this respect,
foolish actually.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:42 PM
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32. Bill Clinton wasn't a "predator" of women
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 01:43 PM by LostinVA
There is ZERO proof he ever had anything but consensual sex. All involved were all adults, and they all have to take responsibility for their actions.

I don't slam anyone for being "an adulterer," because I firmly believe that's between them and their family.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:07 PM
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39. Balance of power is key for a sexual harassment charge.
He's the president of the United States, Monica is an intern.

For him to have anything at all to do with her is just incredibly tacky.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:29 PM
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49. I'm not discussing Monica Lewinsky
His trysts with Lewinsky was at best tacky and stupid, but it wasn't rape or predatory behavior. Ms. Lewinsky herself has said that. She has, by far, been the most honest of anyone about her conduct.

Clinton isn't a predator.And, insinuating that he is (like the poster I answered), is shameful and nothing but divisiveness.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:09 PM
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41. you are right that no one has taken proof to court right?
but considering how powerful he is, it wouldn't do them any good.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:31 PM
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52. No, there is zero proof -- the accusers have been thoroughly vetted
Shouldn't you be off posting the debunked story about Clinton being on Limbaugh? You haven't posted that in at least three hours.

:eyes:
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:49 PM
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35. "One of my family members had a friend..."

:rofl: LOLLLLLLLL ... we should believe THAT from one of the most vitriolic HRC-haters on this forum?

Lots of those "stories" (which is exactly what they were) you refer to were bought and paid for by Richard Mellon Scaife and Co.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:10 PM
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42. tough SHIT, defend the asshole, I don't care
but the guy is a pig when it comes to women.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:19 PM
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19. EVERY time I have seen this posted
I have made every effort to shoot it down because I think it's so outrageous. I can't believe that, lacking any kind of proof--and a good deal that contradicts the charge--we have been seeing it on DU for the past couple months.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:24 PM
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20. In other news
I stopped beating my wife yesterday.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:28 PM
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21. Stupid ass question. n/t
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 PM
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23. Stupid and unhelpful...
n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:38 PM
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24. wow so far 5 repukes
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:09 PM
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40. probably Hillary fans voting yes to make Obama look bad
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galactical Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:39 PM
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28. I believe that
he was a womanizer, but he's no rapist.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:40 PM
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29. can we get a not certain option?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:41 PM
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30. WTF?
What a silly question.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:41 PM
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31. I believe Big Dogg has the skills to pay the bills with the honeys
Unfortunately, none of this rubbed off on his wife.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:46 PM
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34. What a stupid waste of time poll.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:50 PM
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36. Why on earth would you even ask that?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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45. Have you noticed some posters get off throwing a rock...
...at a hornets nest, then run away?

It's easy to sit back as a voyeur, it impossible to defend a ridiculous poll question.



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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:17 PM
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46. Women came to him, believe me
I met him at an event in 2006 at a rally. I was standing on a rafter with a bunch of other middle aged women. When Clinton walked in the place went wild. Orgasmic, practically. I thought the showers were going to go off and I can't print the things people were saying. The guy has whatever it is, even as he gets older. Women adore him.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:05 PM
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38. Rapist, no.
Guilty of sexual harassment on multiple occasions and with multiple women, yes.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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43. Unequivocally NO. Your poll appears to have been freeped.
No liberal or progressive democrat would vote yes. Not ever.



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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:12 PM
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44. The obamatized are ill
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:10 PM
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58. I don't think this is an appropriate thread
There was one earlier that was alerted many, many times that wasn't locked and now we have another one. This post should be locked.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:37 PM
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61. As opposed to your model of maturity and rational thought.
:rofl:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:26 PM
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47. Not as far as I know? n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:27 PM
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48. not as far as i know...
:shrug:
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:29 PM
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50. No
Do i think this poll is Bullshit.

YES, absolutely
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:31 PM
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51. Not that I'm aware of. Was there an accuser?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:33 PM
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53. Hell no. His sex with others besides Hillary never bothered me.
Frankly, I always stuck up for the both of them until their DLC organization and its members started attacking and openly opposing the anti-war community-while supporting Bush on that issue.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:56 PM
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54. Bandwidth Thief ... STOP stealing bandwidth!
Web Etiquette 101 ... get a clue!



What is hotlinking and bandwidth theft?

Bandwidth theft or "hotlinking" is direct linking to a web site's files (images, video, etc.). An example would be using an <img> tag to display a JPEG image you found on someone else's web page so it will appear on your own site, eBay auction listing, weblog, forum message post, etc.

Bandwidth refers to the amount of data transferred from a web site to a user's computer. When you view a web page, you are using that site's bandwidth to display the files. Since web hosts charge based on the amount of data transferred, bandwidth is an issue. If a site is over its monthly bandwidth, it's billed for the extra data or taken offline.

A simple analogy for bandwidth theft: Imagine a random stranger plugging into your electrical outlets, using your electricity without your consent, and you paying for it.


http://altlab.com/hotlinking.html



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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:01 PM
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55. I'm more of a bandwith rapist, actually.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:34 PM by Dr Fate
What does your web-manners guide say about calling people thieves?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:06 PM
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57. No - but he DID cover up for BushInc throughout the 90s and THAT is his worst crime.
Because it led to so much loss of blood and treasure and credibility, and much of our fragile democracy has frayed thanks to that protection that led directly to the emergence of Bush2, to 9-11, and to this Iraq war.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM
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59. Not at all.
However, while on the topic, I think he exercised poor judgment in his affairs. Ultimately, though, it's none of my business who he's doing or who he did... it's just really not an issue for me.
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