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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 AM
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Rev. Wright has no 'right' to be so angry.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 AM by Window


In keeping with DU rules, this article has been "snipped" to death. See link at bottom of post for entire article.

My twin daughters were 7 months old when this happened.

History of Church Fires
A bomb that exploded during services at the 16th Street Baptist Church
in Birmingham, Ala., killed four young girls in September 1963.

Six Dead After Church Bombing
Blast Kills Four Children; Riots Follow
Two Youths Slain; State Reinforces Birmingham Police

September 16, 1963

Birmingham, Sept. 15 -- A bomb hurled from a passing car blasted a crowded Negro church today, killing four girls in their Sunday school classes and triggering outbreaks of violence that left two more persons dead in the streets.

Dozens of persons were injured when the bomb went off in the church, which held 400 Negroes at the time, including 80 children. It was Young Day at the church.

Dozens of survivors, their faces dripping blood from the glass that flew out of the church's stained glass windows, staggered around the building in a cloud of white dust raised by the explosion. The blast crushed two nearby cars like toys and blew out windows blocks away.

City Police Inspector W.J. Haley said as many as 15 sticks of dynamite must have been used.

The bombing was the 21st in Birmingham in eight years, and the first to kill. None of the bombings have been solved.
The only stained glass window in the church that remained in its frame showed Christ leading a group of little children. The face of Christ was blown out.

It was the fourth bombing in four weeks in Birmingham, and the third since the current school desegregation crisis came to a boil Sept. 4.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/churches/photo3.htm

Return to our Special Report on Church Burning
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 AM
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1. I don't understand your post
Are you saying because 4 little girls were killed in a church bombing that Wright has no right to be angry? Are you saying that he didn't suffer enough to be angry?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 AM
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3. No. Forgot the sarcasm smiley.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 AM
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6. Ok
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 AM
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4. the title is sarcastic
Title: Rev. Wright has no 'right' to be angry.
Thesis: Oh wait, yes he does.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 AM
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2. Angry at whom though?
Can the actions of one Hugh Jass or even 10,000 of them be blamed on 200,000,000 white people?
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 AM
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5. Well, when
the attitudes of the 200,000,000 create a climate and a culture where buring black churches is acceptable, yes.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 AM
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11. It was not the attitude of
200,000,000 people. It was the outrage of seeing burning churches and all the atrocities shown on TV that brought about civil rights.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:38 PM
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26. that certainly helped...but it was the concerted effort
of many people, over several generations, that brought us civil rights.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:44 PM
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29. Did you ever wonder why
it was Churches that were burned and attacked?

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 AM
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9. Can the actions of one angry Pastor be blamed on Senator Obama
or all Black people for the matter?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:26 AM
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19. he is being blamed, though, for staying with him
Not because they are both black, but because Obama stayed with his church and because the members of that church were saying "amen" and "right on" to some of Wright's outrageous statements.

Some people here blame all Christians for Fred Phelps even though Phelps was even denounced by Jerry Falwell. Some people, like Rev. Hagee, blame all Catholics for Hitler.

But I don't buy the hype that Wright is angry either. Except in the sense that is a good thing. Good people get angry about injustice, about slaughter, about cruelty, about poverty and other needless suffering. He went over the top a few times, but I am sure that I have too.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 AM
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7. I share most of Rev. Wright's anger
It's a bit over the top to say G.D.America for public consumtion (I've said it a few times in anger). But I haven't heard all that much Rev. Wright has said that I disagreed with.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 AM
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12. Yes. I wish he hadn't used that phrase, but I certainly understand why he did.
n/t
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 AM
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8. Look at the video associated with my post below..
I was going to do an OP, but don't have time right now. Every American STILL has the right to be angry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5169577&mesg_id=5170654
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 AM
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10. America is so FUCKED UP.
Disgusting, disturbing videos.

We are all so fucked!!!
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 AM
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13. Do you think Americans were justified in feeling indignation over the 9/11 attacks?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 AM by The Night Owl
Do you think Americans were justified in feeling indignation over the 9/11 attacks? Radical cleric Jeremiah Wright doesn't seem to think so.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 AM
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18. Of course I do. But America does need to look in the mirror.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 AM
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14. He, and every single Afrian American has a right to be angry
As this issue came to light it only highlights the fact that we are far from racial equality and harmony. And this is why Obama felt he had to address it. And, yes, I found his speech to be a convincing one, and inspiring one, as always.

The question is whether this is the right platform for a Democratic candidate, especially one who wants to transcend race, who has been attracting independents and Republicans, two groups that I have often wondered whether they will be for him in November and who, apparently, are now retreating.

Also, the fact that, as reported, many African Americans are unhappy with Obama's criticism of Wright. And this shows what many of us have predicted: that one cannot be everything for everyone. That at some point, and I was talking Day 2 of Obama's presidency, he was going to anger and disappoint many of his admirers.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:58 AM
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17. Your post is dead on.
America is not ready for Senator Obama. I thought we were, but after this past week, I just don't think so. This is all so very depressing.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:50 AM
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21. America may not be ready for him, but America may need him . . .
Often, the most important changes occur BEFORE people are ready for them.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:00 PM
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22. Oh, we definitely need him.
:thumbsup:
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 AM
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15. Wright wasn't nearly as angry about this country's continuing legacy of injustice, war, etc.
as Pat Buchanan has been the last few days about Obama's choice of a church.

Go figure.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 AM
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16. Agree. It's mind boggling.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:33 AM
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20. But what does that have to do with Obama?
Obama didn't leave the church when the Reverend got angry and said some hateful things? What does that say about his judgement?? Or does that mean he is a racist also?
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:01 PM
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23. That is the dumbest question I have heard all week
Unfortunately I have heard it 10,000 other times too.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:11 PM
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25. It shows tolerance
for the feelings of an older generation who lived in an environment quite different from today.

It's real easy for us to sit in the comfort of our living rooms ranting about how we would have acted if our pastor used such language. Very easy indeed.

Pretty easy to be judgmental isn't it? Especially when there is a political agenda at stake.

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:02 PM
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24. September 16, 1963 - hmmm, that is like 45 years ago...
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:41 PM
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27. 1776 to 1963
is a lot longer than 45 years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:42 PM
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28. If his little girls or his church hasn't been bombed, he should just STFU.
:sarcasm:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:45 PM
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30. i think the attitude of many americans
it that this is ancient history, things have changed now, and we should simply forget about the 400+ years it took to get to the point where americans actually gave a damn about black people.
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