If Edwards endorses HRC, it means he's sold out the workers and the poor.

[Ken Burch]

Edwards cannot endorse the candidate of Corporate America and the health care industry and still claim he was ever fighting for the people who were left out in the cold.

There is no way to be a "pro-business" populist.

He should just not endorse anybody and then introduce populist platform positions at the convention.

[melody]

1. No, it means that's his genuine opinion

I supported Edwards the whole way. I now back Obama. But just because someone disagrees with me on something doesn't
make them a demon.

[VeraAgnes]

13. I don't see Edwards making an impulsive decision.

He appears to be taking his time to think long and hard at his options. Who knows, he may not endorse anyone.:shrug:

Where is this Edwards endorsement coming from anyways? The water cooler chatter?

[melody]

23. He isn't going to endorse anyone - I was just responding to the idea

He will definitely NOT endorse Clinton.

[olkaz]

33. I wouldn't rule it out.

It'll be a weighty endorsement, and Edwards sees a different side of each candidate than we do.

Edwards was my first pick, so it'll be especially interesting for me to see if he offers his support.

[Cha]

29. Imo, it would against everything I supported

and still support in John Edwards.

[doyourealize1]

2. HRC's healthcare issue is most important to Edwards

To say that Obama's plan for the healthcare industry caters less to corporate interests than HRC's is foolish.

[Ken Burch]

5. It will be possible to influence an Obama Adminstration from outside and below.

It can't be possible to influence a DLC-HRC adminstration through organizing and protest. Once you've taken that much corporate money, you can't be on the side of the workers.

[saracat]

9. And You believe Obama, who "guarantees a seat at the table to

corporations and insurance companies" hasn't taken corporate money? What about previous elections and what about current bundling in this race? Obama isn't on the side of the workers.And Hillary has Edwards health care plan. Obama doesn't support universal health care.

[joshcryer]

12. As Krugman pointed out, because Obama is against a mandate, it will be impossible...

...politically for him to get one. Thus making his health care plan nothing more than something to line the pockets of health insurance.

[mattclearing]

7. Back it up.

Have you actually read her plan? Read this: http://hillaryclinton.com/issues/healthcare/summary.aspx

Insurance and Drug Companies: insurance companies will end discrimination based on pre-existing conditions or expectations of illness and ensure high value for every premium dollar; while drug companies will offer fair prices and accurate information.

Does anyone actually believe this has a shot in hell of passing? I have a hard time reading this sentence without laughing.

[Texas Hill Country]

37. 100% true... Edwards even attacked Obama on this point...

[rinsd]

38. I woudl agree. If Edwards endorses Hillary it will be on the basis of her healthcare plan.

[oasis]

3. Hillary has a tremendous amount of support from unions. Have they sold out?

:shrug:

[Ken Burch]

4. Actually, some of them have.

As a union man, I've often seen the leadership of the labor movement settle for little if anything.

The unions endorsed Bill in '92 even though he gave them nothing at all and even though he wouldn't allow the WORD "union" to be used in the "Democratic" platform he stood on.

[ericgtr]

31. Nearly all of the major unions have already endorsed Obama

I guess I don't see what you are getting at here?

[Texas Hill Country]

39. 1. Not true. 2. Even so, the members vote for Hillary... so who sold out?

[ericgtr]

41. Can you please provide some stats on this?

I would like to see them. Thanks.

[Dinger]

54. Good Point : ) (nt)

[splat]

6. Edwards probably thinks Hillary can win and Obama can't

That is the goal, after all.

[mattclearing]

8. Edwards, like Gore and many others, sees that it's best to let the voters sort this out.

The superdelegates will get their turn, and I doubt Edwards wants to interfere in the process. Like everyone else, he is in wait and see mode.

[Skwmom]

15. That is the latest Clinton campaign meme Edwards will mimic,

b/c since he's left the race that's all he's been doing.

It was obvious that the Clintons and Edwards were together from the beginning. As they say, birds of a feather flock together. Both members of the DLC, both voted for a war to further their political career.....

[Cha]

30. Edwards is smarter than that and he knows

Obama will win so why would he backer a Loser like hilary, lies her head off, clinton?

[kevinmc]

10. Yeah Hillary

[splat]

11. Hillary is a Democrat; Lieberman isn't; this is childish and inaccurate

It looks like you don't like mommy and daddy!

[Cha]

35. Kinda like hilary?

[Cha]

32. I thought it was hilary/mccain? They're both gross but hilary likes 'em.

[VeraAgnes]

43. That is really awful.

The Primaries are still active and alive informing you that either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton will be our nominee. I don't have any respect for such hatefulness.

[Skwmom]

14. Edwards is Bill Clinton, Part II.

[high density]

16. I don't care what he does

Nothing from him surprises me after his 2004 campaign for VP. Shit or get off the pot.

[LisaL]

17. Has it ever occurred to you that Edwards could possibly endorse

someone because he thinks they are the best person for the job?

[goldcanyonaz]

24. Only if it's Obama around here.

[Zee Miller]

44. No doubt...

And elsewhere on the I'm such a leftist MAN blogosphere.

Goddess protect EDWARDS if he endorses the truest Democrat, Hillary Clinton.

[4themind]

18. "the moral test of our generation"-speech from edwards

<http://www.johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20071029-moral-test/>
here's an excerpt

"And a few weeks ago, around the sixth anniversary of 9/11, a leading presidential candidate held a fundraiser that was billed as a Homeland Security themed event in Washington, D.C. targeted to homeland security lobbyists and contractors for $1,000 a plate. These lobbyists, for the price of a ticket, would get a special "treat" -- the opportunity to participate in small, hour long breakout sessions with key Democratic lawmakers, many of whom chair important sub committees of the homeland security committee. That presidential candidate was Senator Clinton.

Senator Clinton's road to the middle class takes a major detour right through the deep canyon of corporate lobbyists and the hidden bidding of K Street in Washington -- and history tells us that when that bus stops there it is the middle class that loses.

When I asked Hillary Clinton to join me in not taking money from Washington lobbyists -- she refused. Not only did she say that she would continue to take their money, she defended them.

Today Hillary Clinton has taken more money from Washington lobbyists than any candidate from either party -- more money than any Republican candidate.

She has taken more money from the defense industry than any other candidate from either party as well.

She took more money from Wall Street last quarter than Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and Barack Obama combined.

The long slow slide of our democracy into the corporate abyss continues unabated regardless of party, regardless of the best interests of America.

We have a duty -- a duty to end this."

[casus belli]

19. I've no doubt he'll be offered an appointment in an Obama admin. n/t

[deacon]

20. What nonsense. Bush/mccain want to keep stealing from your paycheck. n/t

[Romulox]

21. Huh??? Wasn't Obama EXPOSED on his NAFTA doublespeak?

Sorry, "hope" isn't worth a damn when the Obama, Clinton, and McCain administrations have a labor policy that is substantially the same...:eyes:

[MyNameGoesHere]

22. yes of course because anyone that does not

support Obama aka JFK, aka MLK, aka Savior of the free world, aka best thing since the hula hoop, aka God walking on water, then we are delusional, a freeper, a baby killer, a racist, or scum sucking corporate whores. Yes that's it. Never mind that some us us just DO NOT BELIEVE what comes out of his mouth, and can see that he has NEVER put his words to action unless it was expedient to further the illusion.

[RedShoesBlueState]

27. Succinctly and well-put

Thank you. If it seems too good to be true, then it probably isn't. That's what MY grandma taught me.

[hfojvt]

40. so I guess his bill to require the videotaping of interrogations

was just to further the illusion, as was his support for an EIC in Illinois. And his speeches against the war weren't really efforts to stop the war any more than my renting a car and driving to a pre-war protest were "actions".

[MyNameGoesHere]

48. Oh that LANDMARK legislation that

many other states had done already. Yeah that was earth shattering.

[hfojvt]

49. so now we are comparing "earth shattering" legislation?

Perhaps Hillary has a list of earth shattering accomplishments? She certainly helped to shatter Iraq, but I wasn't aware of how she shattered the rest of the world. It's easy to say somebody has done nothing if you are prepared to minimize everything they've done.

[MyNameGoesHere]

52. No need to minimize

the already minuscule.

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. Then he should not endorse Obama either. Personally I hope he doesn't endorse either corprat

candidate. They sold him out and stole his ideas and message. Fuck em both!

[jackson_dem]

26. Edwards knows Obama is as corporate as Clinton so that isn't a factor in a rational person's decisio

[Cha]

28. John Edwards would not only sell out

the workers and the poor he would be selling his soul. And, I can't even believe were having to anticipate this!

I just don't how he would do it.

[Zee Miller]

46. Go to Hollywood and join

the Giant Clam in the Sky Scientologists.

[cbayer]

34. Edwards is a politician.

Despite his speeches, IMO he is nothing more than that. He will do what is politically expedient.

[Political Heretic]

36. They are both pretty corporate :(

I support Obama, but that's just the way it is.

[foxer]

42. He's giving them both "time out"

[npincus]

45. sorry to say, I always found something a bit insincere about him

and a bit calculated.

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[annie1]

50. why are people being so histrionic. he hasn't even come close to...

endorsing her.

[AX10]

51. Obama is not anti-corporation person either.

[IsItJustMe]

53. I am a strong Edwars supporter and yet I totally agree with your post. You said it.