Has Obama's Philadelphia speech taken on a name yet? What might you call it?

[BuyingThyme]

He calls it "A More Perfect Union."

I'm thinking more along the lines of the "Mustard and Relish" speech.

Are the names of speeches supposed to be "quoted" or italicized?

[EffieBlack]

1. "THIS time!"

[Mme. Defarge]

30. THIS TIME! n/t

[Recursion]

37. Agreed (nt)

[Ichingcarpenter]

65. THIS TIME!

Any I don't have many years left for THIS TIME.

[jlake]

2. Damage Control Grandeur

[jasmine621]

71. Hammer, meet nail. BHAM!! nt

[IndianaJones]

3. The Great Pander? nt

[thevoiceofreason]

7. Whaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

[sorrybushisfromtexas]

9. you are ignored

If you can not say something nice,
say nothing at all.

[IndianaJones]

12. see #7. nt

[tritsofme]

16. Think you can slap me on that list?

If you haven't already?

[IndianaJones]

24. maybe already on it? lucky. nt.

[stevenleser]

78. Allow me to introduce both of you to it

[Madam Mossfern]

25. Why not?

I see lots of posters who post not so nice things. There is nothing wrong with venting, as long as you don't attack another poster on the forum.

[Tatiana]

27. Stay classy! n/t

[IndianaJones]

28. The Okay Pander? nt.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

68. ah damn now I have a Platters earworm

[QC]

4. Titles of speeches go in quotes.

The general rule is that titles of full-length works are underlined or italicized and titles of shorter works go in quotes.

[BuyingThyme]

8. Yeah, but I thought the definition of a shorter work was

that it's a part of a larger work. I guess the campaign, or the term of office, could be a larger work.

That's where I got confused.

[screembloodymurder]

5. A Clear Choice

Obama

[x-g.o.p.er]

6. The Philadelphia Experiment?

Just kidding...

[Jersey Devil]

10. The title is "A More Perfect Union"

That is the title Obama gave it according to at least a few articles I have read and the title used by his campaign website.

[Recursion]

43. I think the official title of "I have a dream" was "Let freedom ring" (nt)

[BuyingThyme]

47. I did not know that.

[Recursion]

49. "Let Freedom Ring" is the other "chorus" of the speech, the one at the end

the fact that King put that at the end also suggests he saw that as having more "staying power", but you don't really control what part of a speech captures the imagination.

[BuyingThyme]

52. I have a stack of authorized copies of the speech on quality parchment,

and I don't recall seeing that as the title.

I'll take a closer look the next time I run across them.

[Recursion]

55. I'd be happy to be shown wrong

There's a copy of a draft here at BU (where he got his PhD) that has "Let Freedom Ring" at the top of the first page. Then again that could have just been something he scribbled down while writing it so he'd remember to put it in later.

[BuyingThyme]

57. I'm not doubting you at all; just thinking aloud.

Well, not aloud, but in a manner by which... Well, you understand.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

82. Hello from a alumn here!

Graduated BU in 2006 (CGS '03, CAS '06 because I changed my major). I loved the BU library, and would spend time looking at the documents they had there. It was very interesting!

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[IndianaJones]

13. ouch. nt

[olkaz]

17. That's not very nice.

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[Forkboy]

20. Still worried about those "women folk" Ben?

[billbuckhead]

21. "My religious mentor of twenty years is an outrageous bigot and I need to spin"

"Let's blame my bad judgment in religious mentor's by blaming it on society." It's Checkers camouflaged with civil right.

[Emit]

48. Project much?

[stevenleser]

80. Thank you for reminding me that I meant to put you on Ignore

Bye!

[tritsofme]

14. Speech #192,343 of campaign 2008.

At least that is how we will remember it five years from now.

[scheming daemons]

15. "A More Perfect Union" is a perfect title.... which is why Obama named it that....

...leave it go at that.

[BuyingThyme]

22. I don't like it.

[Forkboy]

19. "The Day Hillary Lost"

[davidinalameda]

45. and we have a winner!!!!!

:woohoo:

[Forkboy]

56. I honestly think today was the final nail in her coffin.

Now it's all over but the trolling. :)

[davidinalameda]

76. and lord knows there's enough of that on here

[suston96]

23. "My Grandmother's mouth"?

[IndianaJones]

26. huh? nt

[suston96]

33. Read the speech again. He mentions his white grandmother's - uh, "words." nt

[IndianaJones]

35. eh..no big deal. nt.

[Cha]

29. "NOT THIS TIME".

Key phrase.

[pingzing58]

31. I like "Black is Beautiful."

[John Q. Citizen]

32. I think of it as "The Speech," similar to how folks in the SF Bay Area think of "The Catch."

I have this image in my mind of Charlie Brown kicking Lucy Van Pelt through the goal post .

Those of you familiar with Peanuts know that Lucy always snatches away the football just before Charlie can kick it.

Not this time!

[BuyingThyme]

61. At least for a while.

And unless Hillary says something really evil, nobody will refer to anything she says as "The Speech."

[Neshanic]

73. I love your suggestion. "At Least For A While". Perfect.

[rainbow4321]

34. How about "Hillary who??" n/t

[pingzing58]

36. Scratch that I prefer, "I'm no Lincoln."

[BuyingThyme]

41. Why Lincoln?

[pingzing58]

54. His speech was likened to Lincolns rhetorical style and no it isn't.

[BuyingThyme]

64. Why would it be? That's bizarre.

[pingzing58]

42. This is a great post, thanks Thyme. And I'm not just saying that.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

38. White Grandmother, Black Preacher

Those were the stories I took away from the speech. How Barack could connect the experience of his grandmother with his pastor, and make people see why we need to start talking to each other and stop being afraid.

[tishaLA]

39. The Ashley Speech

[IDemo]

44. My first choice as well n/t

[chknltl]

40. "A More Perfect Union" works best for me too

I am biased against american (French's) mustard and I have even less fondness for pickles in any format. The very thought of biting into a mustard and relish sandwich makes me....well there has been enough of that in this thread. If I had been a member of Ashley's family I would have donated the spreads and went with plain bread. (I remember sugar and butter bread though...not from any necessity but because years and years ago I found such stuff quite yummy!)

[RBInMaine]

46. "A More Perfect Union" is spot on.

[DB1]

58. This corner of the country thinks so too.

[Rageneau]

50. "Now, you just bring my grandmother into this!"?

[MannyGoldstein]

51. This Was Exactly What The Founders Had In Mind

It's only fitting that a bit of their handiwork - "a more perfect union" - be applied.

[BuyingThyme]

53. Too impersonal for me.

I relate more to the "Checkers" approach.

[boppers]

59. "These People are Part of Me"

aka: E Pluribus Unum

[Teaser]

60. I call it Henry

Steve just didn't have the grandeur...

[BuyingThyme]

74. I think Nixon did a "Henry" speech.

[lumberjack_jeff]

62. "I have a scheme"

sorry, I couldn't resist.

It's a very good speech.

[better tomorrow]

63. I vote "Because of Ashley"

[ElsewheresDaughter]

66. yeah it did in the MSM has already named it "Obama's Race Speech"

[2rth2pwr]

67. Sorry Grannie, but you've gotsta go!

[IndianaJones]

70. his racist granny comments were sweet. nt.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

69. "Getting Past Racial Stalemate in 2008"

[LuvMyPorsche]

72. maybe

the "God Damn America" speech?

Oh that speech is already taken.

Mmmmm... how bout the "I HAD a Dream" speech

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

75. "Checkers II"

[BuyingThyme]

77. That's actually somewhat appropriate, isn't it?

If only in that Nixon's relationship to the dog, Checkers, is something he -- similar to Obama's relationship with the Pastor -- cannot simply abandon for political expediency.

But the name lacks an Obama flavor.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

79. I'm calling it the "I Have a Pastor" speech. n/t

[blogslut]

81. How about

"The Philadelphia Speech"

?

[BuyingThyme]

83. That's brilliant.

:thumbsup:

[blogslut]

84. aww shucks

:)

[not_too_L8]

85. Out of many, we are one....n/t